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TheGodfather 01-30-2011 06:46 PM

Quattro vs xDrive Q5, X3
 
Pretty impressive.

The X3 makes it seem effortless.

YouTube - Quattro vs xDrive - Audi Q5 gegen BMW X3

lemans4.8 01-30-2011 07:19 PM

I have an Audi as my weekend car. I can tell you first hand that Quattro is a much system than the Xdrive. Something doesn't seem right in the video.....

phil47 01-30-2011 07:58 PM

I drive both an X5 and now a 2011 S4 (with sport diff), both which I've driven for the past 5 days in serious snow and ice here in Calgary. Both are impressive systems. Don't underestimate the newer generation Xdrive system...especially when optimized for the X5 and X3...it is an incredibly good system which has served me flawlessly for the last 5 winters.:thumbup:

AzNMpower32 01-30-2011 08:29 PM

The new X3 scored last place in a recent Auto Bild snow test of 10 assorted 4x4 and AWD vehicles, where the tests measured things like climbing ability, deep snow traction, and handling. It was outranked by cars such as the Kia Sportage, Audi Q5, Mini Countryman All4, and the Dacia Duster.

TheGodfather 01-30-2011 10:10 PM

There has to be some independent controlled test out there.

It would be nice to see that.

NIGHTMAREuki 01-30-2011 11:30 PM

i wish someone did thsi with quattro xDrive and Attesa

powers1 01-31-2011 05:21 AM

They put slicks on the Q5..That explains it :)
This is even more embarrassing for the Q5!It struggles to go up a small ramp ,where a Ford Kuga(entry level mini-Suv) does it effortlessly:)
YouTube - Embarrasing moment for the new Q5

TheGodfather 01-31-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powers1 (Post 800657)
They put slicks on the Q5..That explains it :)
This is even more embarrassing for the Q5!It struggles to go up a small ramp ,where a Ford Kuga(entry level mini-Suv) does it effortlessly:)
YouTube - Embarrasing moment for the new Q5

Yea, I saw that video as well. I think in this case it was the driver.

Even the first video I posted, it seems obvious the BMW woman is making a point to make the Q5 look crappy, by going slow, and looking out the window, hesitating etc.

JCL 01-31-2011 05:36 PM

I don't think any of these videos are embarrassing. Silly, yes, but not embarrassing. They are contrived situations. How often do you have 100% traction on one axle, and zero on the other axle? As long as there is a mechanical differential involved, as in the Audi, you need something to trigger the electrical lock up so that you get drive on both axles. If that was a real hill, both vehicles would have driven up it fine.

Now if it was a comparison tire test, that would matter. But different AWD systems have so little to choose between them, that these adds just make the producers look silly, like political attack adds do.

TheGodfather 01-31-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 800824)
I don't think any of these videos are embarrassing. Silly, yes, but not embarrassing. They are contrived situations. How often do you have 100% traction on one axle, and zero on the other axle? As long as there is a mechanical differential involved, as in the Audi, you need something to trigger the electrical lock up so that you get drive on both axles. If that was a real hill, both vehicles would have driven up it fine.

Now if it was a comparison tire test, that would matter. But different AWD systems have so little to choose between them, that these adds just make the producers look silly, like political attack adds do.

Well the video that Subaru video that "NIGHTMAREuki" posted, demonstrates testing of manufacturers claims.

Although the conditions are not likely to be encountered in the real world, it still demonstrates the ability of the vehicles to tackle the situation. Manufacturers and consumers need "controlled" tests, something that can not be done consistently in real open terrain.

If a manufacturer claims the vehicle can overcome 0 traction on three wheels, then it would be embarrassing for the vehicle to not do so when tested.


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