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x5yankee 02-24-2011 06:29 PM

Ultra sessantas wore out in 11k
 
After arguing with the dealer for hours over the condition of my rear tires the service rep finally tells me to look at the very inner edge of the rears. Sure enough theres a pinstripe thats worn down to the steel bands. Why he couldn't point that out to me to begin with eludes me but thats another story. Looking at my X from the rear they are obviously tilted in at the top. I am planning on replacing the rear control arms and having it realigned. Im going to have to replace the tires also but want to avoid having this happen again cause I dont ruin another set. 20in tires are cheap. What advice you guys to avoid this.

mrbmwx5 02-24-2011 06:52 PM

You can't avoid this problem... But you can do this it help me a lot.

I'm using the bavarian adjustable camber kits for the rear on my low rider X5,,, it's aloud me to dial the camber out no more excessive nagative camber for me so far i got about 28k miles on my bridgestone duller HP sport and the tires still look almost like new.

bigwave2255 02-24-2011 07:48 PM

strikes me that the wider the tyres the more critical rear wheel camber is, i have just swapped to 20 inch rims with 315,s on the rear and am keeping a very close eye on them.

that said the eccentric bolt the adjusts the rear camber on my car is in the mid position allowing for plenty of adjustment before needing to go to camber kits.

i wonder if there is so much variation in the manufacturing process or if in fact many people have seriously worn suspension components.

before going to 20,s i did plenty of research and even drove a car and was a little disappointed with the heavy steering and tram lining.

surprisingly though i have not experienced these issues with my car

its done 96000 km and is as tight as a drum

maybe i,m just lucky ?????????

x54.6 02-24-2011 07:54 PM

i also have sessantas tires and mine have also worn too. but the sad thing is that mine only have about 8000 miles on them and i had it aligned right when tires were mounted. my tires have very even wear all around so i think that there tires just wear very quick so for my next set it will not be vredestein tires will not recommend these tires. also spoke to rep and they still have not got back to me. is there mileage warranty on these tires... :rant::gun:

RichiRich 02-24-2011 10:22 PM

If you guys are talking about Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas then yes....I have had 3 sets in the last three years and as of this week I am done.....moving to bridgestone dueler....I just put a post out on this topic a few days ago.

It was a hard decision. I LOOOOVE the Vredesteins! but after burning through three sets and only getting 8k....less than a year! Bye Bye ......for now!

Rich:thumbup:

CTSportX5 02-24-2011 10:40 PM

This is the reason why I chose Bridgestone Dueler HP Sports. Have about 10K on them and look new. Good tire, highly recommend. (19inch fitment)

RPM IM M 02-24-2011 11:32 PM

I have 18" factorywheels - toyo open country all terrian (AT)
work good - not to loud - decent handling + and dont need snows

JCL 02-25-2011 03:03 AM

I think all this discussion of camber is possibly misdirected.

OP: the tilting in (or out) is called camber. It is designed in to your vehicle, it is there for a reason. It promotes predictable handling. By itself, if it is within spec, it does not cause rapid tire wear. It is worth seeing how close it is to spec, but you should definitely still be able to see it.

What causes tire wear much more frequently is toe-in, where the tires are pigeon-toed. If you think about it, if the tires aren't pointing the same way the car is going, then the inner and outer edges of the tires have to slip with every rotation. The wider the tire, the more pronounced this problem is. You can't see a toe-in problem (because the fender is in the way) but you can see camber. That is why camber gets targetted so often, IMO.

Toe-in, combined with the camber that the vehicle is supposed to have, wears the inner edges of the tires. BMW has a rather large spec for what is acceptable for toe-in. You want it adjusted to the minimum of the accepted range. You should check that nothing is loose or worn out with respect to excessive camber, but the toe-in is what will save your next set of tires.


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