Exhaust Upgrade...
 

Anyone know where I can get Eisenmann "Race" exhaust (w/ oval tips) for an '03 4.6is at an affordable price? I looked it up in the internet and the least average price I get is $2,400. Thanks!

IND Distribution is the official US importer. Whatever price they give you will probably be the best you can do.

If you sell your exhaust, let me know how much you are willing let it go for.

How much you want for your 4.6 exhaust let me know ASAP

I looked at the Eisenmann UK site as my Eisenmann Race boxes ('01 4.4) were around £800 ($1292). But for you they're $2880! (£1783).

Sorry I couldn't help more than that... :(

Stay put ... I will let you know once I hear from my (vendor)
I'm sure it much lower than what you found...,

Hey all, thanks for input. I'll wait for your response mrbmwx5. Thanks for looking it up. About the offer for my existing exhausts, sorry guys, I plan to keep 'em in case my future ones gets jacked. You just never know these days...

He told me $2200 for Eisenmann "Race" exhaust ...and will take about three to four weeks for delivery.

I ordered mine 3 weeks ago; still waiting... :tapping:

Does this have a better sound than the Dinan exhaust?

Have a watch/listen/compare... YouTube - ‪Eisenmann BMW E53 X5 4.6 is - Race‬‏

YouTube - ‪Dinan x5 4.6is‬‏

Personally I like the Eisenmann so much more. It has a deeper, throatier, almost 'raspy' growl. Though I am biased as I have the Eisenmann Race on my 4.4 and love it when I give it the beans with the windows down!! Turns a few heads.. :p:

Your Eisenmann just came in today and we just took some photos of it.

Here is your new system. Enjoy :thumbup:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6140/...cb9a0934_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6129/...a56730f2_b.jpg

Wishing one of these would magically appear on my doorstep....

https://gmpperformance.com/index.cfm...ID=120233&VS=1

I would LOVE to hear a Tubi 4.6iS

Eisenmann Exhaust
 

:iagree:

Eisenmann +1

Do you think a "Group buy" would bring the price down?
I would be all in if I could offset the cost by selling my 4.6is OEM exhaust... :D

I used to work at a Tubi dealer, and cost on that thing was well over 3k, couldn't justify it.

Nate, since when did they add that support between the two mufflers? Mine doesn't have that.

Thanks; you just made my day! :D

keep checking craigslist for one. you thought it was going to be easy to get an eisenmann for less than 2000 new.....Goodluck

Under $2000! Here ya go!
 

Forgive my ignorance of the exhaust specifics on the X, but would there be any point in putting an X or H cross member in the middle of the Eisenmann or Dinan for equalization of back pressure?

I'm not a big fan of the single wall exhaust tips, makes it look cheap, for that kind of money they should be rolled double wall tips. I think I'll keep my stock 4.6is exhaust and go with some more aggressive looking tips like these, plus it's a lot cheaper option as I'm only after the look...lol! http://www.xoutpost.com/%3Ca%20href=...0521498935.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...0521498935.jpg

I believe they're trying to keep the look as close to stock as possible... I think you may be the first person who ever used the word "cheap" to describe an Eisenmann exhaust!

They sell the exhaust with double-walled 4.6-style tips as well.

Where can I buy these tips


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Can anyone answer my question?

BTW I do like the look of those tips with the double edge....classy. Like a leather bound book...

I have to agree with Romeo. They do LOOK cheap-as he pointed out. We all know Eisenmann's great quality, and are like Stella Artois-reassuringly expensive :rofl:, its just the single wall that would put me off.

Personally I plumped for the 160x80 (I think) 'oval' back boxes for my 4.4, much akin to the look of the standard 4.6's. :D

Would be good to see them on your beast, accompanied by some blips on the loud pedal-perhaps shut me and Romeo up...yes? :thumbup:

Max, that's awesome. :) So cool to have been well acquainted with their stuff. $3k was "cost" pricing? whew. I haven't checked on today's pricing for it, as it would be a cliche "if you have to ask how much it is". Still, I wonder if pricing for the 4.6iS application has gone down, up, or what.

While you were there, did you get the chance to see a cutaway of a Tubi can?

All this talk is literally exhausting (LOL)! Now you guys have got me thinking of purchasing an Eisenmann system for my X5 4.6is.... The question is, what to do with my stock 4.6is exhaust? What is it worth and is anyone interested?
:popcorn:

2 members were asking for the OP's stock exhaust...

Installation is scheduled for Thursday; I'll see what I can do!

Not a fan either of single wall exhaust tips.Unfortunately, I am another person that will say that particular Eisenmann exhaust does look cheap and not well made.I weld my own and clients s/s exhausts and there are at least 3 reasons the finish could be better on the Eisenmann:-
1.Welding on those tips to the muffler is a bit gross and badly finished.
A stainless steel weld can easily be made to be smooth and less noticeable.

2.Welding the support brackets on the main muffler body is not ideal as its the weakest point,best to weld them on the reinforced edges,but unfortunately ,others aftermarket companies are doing the same.To see how and where support brackets are welded ,just look at your stock mufflers!

3.Single wall tips are nothing more than a polished s/s pipe and are one way of cutting production costs.Just look at how much the 4.8is (beautiful) tips cost from your dealer :)

Ok; I guess we've officially reached the "I hate the Eisenmann single wall exhaust tips" saturation point! :rolleyes:

I'll leave it to Nate@IND to defend the manufacturing issues you identified as I certainly don't pretend to to an expert...

Done!
 

Install is done; it sounds great!

I'll try and take some pictures that do it justice, and maybe a quick video.

As to the exhaust tip issue. On close inspection it looks like they're dual-wall and taper down to single wall; if that makes sense? In other words, when you look into the tip you can clearly see it's much thicker internally and has a metal mesh appearance. Kinda like this:

For $2400. that exhaust better do more than make sound for you.

You can go to a reputable exhaust shop (in NJ MaxPSI) and they can fab one up for less than a 1,000. Then it will be custom and one of a kind. None of that mandrel bent crap from meineke.

Don't get me wrong the piece is very nice but the price is just ridiculous.

Like the e46 m3. A muffler, a MUFFLER is 1700. then you still have headers, section 1, section2. A full SS from headers back can cost you $6000

I have ebay headers (SS Rep with 35k hard miles) and a bimmerworld exhaust from section 1 back and it was $1150 for everything. It is just metal and I don't understand how people just burn money away with this stuff

It does more than make sound... :thumbup:

When you start paying my bills you can worry about how I spend my money...

I don't care how you spend your money, I just find it funny people buy these mufflers for sound and think they are adding HP. What more does it do besides make sound? I'd like to know, maybe a nice baseline dyno and post dyno after the adaptations are set with similiar conditions then I can shut up (real world of course, not distributor posted #s). But hey to each their own. :D

M3 Eisenmann Dyno
 

Here's an M3 Eisenmann Dyno... Can't find one for an X5...

The numbers achieved were very impressive indeed: the M3, equipped with the factory exhaust system, achieved 351 wheel horsepower, a very realistic number when considering the car's 400 crank horsepower rating, and the repeated runs that corroborated this number. This M3, when tested with the Eisenmann system only an hour and a half later, produced 364hp at peak- a 13hp gain! Even more interestingly, 100rpm earlier, at 7900 RPM, the Eisenmann system produced 363hp, while the factory system only allowed the car to produce 348hp- a 15hp gain!

Here is the full thread on M3 Dyno...

Fall Line revisited: Dyno testing the E9x M3 Eisenmann Race Performance - BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

That's great but I don't see an X5. You are comparing apples to oranges. Every car is different. I'd like to see real world numbers from an X5. Cause I can show you dyno graphs of an E46 showing 359 whp with an exhaust and tune but that means absolutely nothing in regards to an X5 muffler.

I actually work for a living, so I'm not going to spend any more time trying to research something for you. But don't twist the facts; the M3 was an exhaust, no "tune". For all you know, the HP gains made on my 4.4i may be similar, or more. You're offering absolutely nothing but hot air to support your position. Until YOU come up with a dyno that shows a 4.4i X5 making zero gains with an Eisenmann race exhaust I think we're wasting our time.

Haha I work as well, welcome to the club! But this forum is very nice and sends an email to every single thread I post in that has an update.

I have some personal experience from friends, myself and the m3forum on exhaust (muffler, section 3) upgrades and dyno time. But also tons and tons of information from reading on m3forum the last 4 years.

here are some good threads with real world data, before and after. These threads made me a believer to these products:

Dyno: EPIC tune vs. Stock tune - BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3)

Bimmerworld/Epic Race Tune review - BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3)

Bimmerworld 3.5" race exhaust - BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3)

During this event, my friend preeth made similiar numbers to how his car is now (stock) muffler, when he had this dyno his car had full exhaust (rogue engineering) so the muffler itself did nothing but sound.

The bimmerworld race exhaust on the other hand claims 10-15 hp. but people have been getting 20-25 and even more.

Dyno Meet Weekend of Jan 25-27, 2008 - Page 5 - BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3)

So with real numbers like these, then I can say the exhaust did something extra besides sound. ;)

ALSO make sure you are buying eisenman, not eisen haus. The imitation chinese brand that no one can even tell anymore, not even vendors!

Point taken... That notification has me spending too much time here today as well! :D

Unfortunately I don't see any opportunity to get mine on a Dyno in the near future.

It's an Eisenmann Race exhaust; I'm 100% positive. I'll do my best to get some pictures and a video in the next week or so. In the mean time, maybe someone else with Eisenmann X5 4.4i experience can jump in here!