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FSETH 07-22-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ducati2242 (Post 835290)
Yea JCL had already answered with a relevant response . Didnt need any help from you . Some tossers just cant help but interfering though

You still don't get it. Good luck with everything buddy. :thumbup:

msammy 07-23-2011 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rph74 (Post 835006)
Since there is differing opinion here, I decided to talk to the guys at the local dealership. They were nice enough to give me a tire gauge to take home with me since I had my 540i on me at the time. They told me that they feel comfortable with 4/32nds of an inch difference between front and rear tires max. The difference for me was 5/32nds so I have decided to go ahead and replace the fronts. It may end up being overkill, but I guess I'm too damn anal and overcautious to just look the other way on this one. I'll spend the extra $350 for peace of mind.

Thanks for all your input guys!

RPH74, you made the right decision by replacing all four, good piece of mind having good rubber all around. I was in the same situation a few years ago and just replaced the rears which ended up being fine for my situation - I have 117K miles now and no damage to the tranny or transfer case as a result. This past winter the fronts were getting a bit thin and were noticeable in the bad winter we had in the Northeast, the start/stops in the snow were just not very good. This spring, I replaced all four just to get back to a good rubber baseline even though the rears were just fine. I kinda felt bad about tossing out two good tires, but my wife drives our X5 alot with the kids, so I felt a few hundred $$$'s is worth it. Keep us posted on your ride!
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omodos 06-10-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL (Post 834504)
With the X5, you run the risk of damage to the transfer case for pre x-drive models (2000-2003). It has shown up as damaged splines.

With x-drive models (2004 onwards), the clutch plates in the transfer case allow for some discrepancy, but if it is too large you wear the clutch plates.

With both transfer cases, you can get nuisance DSC errors due to tire size discrepancies.

BMW has the same spec for maximum differences for both versions.

If the tires are the same size and brand/model front and rear, and one end is new while the other is up to half worn, you should be fine. I would put the new tires on the front, however. You will often have higher inflation pressure on the rear due to load carried, and that helps compensate for wear differences. Apart from that, you depend on the fronts for steering and braking.


@JCL, your point regarding the x-drive models (2004 onwards) being afflicted by using differing tire size, mine (a nov 2004 built 3.0d) is not a xDrive no mention of this anywhere on 'packet' or manual, had a case over the last few years where left side tires were substantially more worn over the entire circufmerence of the tires than the right so rotated them (they werent directional), never had a dsc error popup, just be good to know if there is any hard fast empirical data for the e53 where owners have used mismatched tires (as you say most had 17" stock rear andt front) and has lead to transfer case failure and the like.. Reading online today have seen that some of the much newer bmws are more susceptible, but for our X5s is this something as I mentioned in another post that would just go kaput on the highway or would we get a warning?

wpoll 06-10-2019 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by omodos (Post 1163946)
... mine (a nov 2004 built 3.0d) is not a xDrive no mention of this anywhere on 'packet' or manual, ...

Why make you say your 3.0d is NOT xDrive? It almost certainly is.

You have a "facelift" (LCI) E53 X5 and they all have xDrive. The xDrive driveline was fitted to all LCI E53 X5 produced, starting in late 2003.

And so yes, tyres are important. You need to keep the rolling circumference of all tyres with a couple of percent of each other or you risk wearing out the clutch packs in the transfer case.

Documented evidence of this happening...? Dunno. :dunno: But I don't want to risk it... ;)

andrewwynn 06-10-2019 05:11 PM

So i found this:

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According to the experts at TireRack, the tires on xdrive cars can be different sizes from original equipment (but must be within 3% of original tire diameter), and they need to be within 1% (not to exceed) diameter size of each other to not cause problems.
That works out to just about 4/32" difference in tread depth allowed front to back. I don't believe the 3% of OE for overall size as long as they fit and are all the SAME size or within 1% rolling circumference.

That is for x-drive. i think the pre LCI can have up to 3% difference front to back axle.

omodos 06-11-2019 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wpoll (Post 1163963)
Why make you say your 3.0d is NOT xDrive? It almost certainly is.

You have a "facelift" (LCI) E53 X5 and they all have xDrive. The xDrive driveline was fitted to all LCI E53 X5 produced, starting in late 2003.

And so yes, tyres are important. You need to keep the rolling circumference of all tyres with a couple of percent of each other or you risk wearing out the clutch packs in the transfer case.

Documented evidence of this happening...? Dunno. :dunno: But I don't want to risk it... ;)

Spoke to my mechanic and he confirmed seeing it (drivetrain issue) on X3s with mismatched tires, so gonna go get em changed today

Luisito 04-16-2021 01:41 PM

Im late to the party here but here is my situation. A coworker gave me two tires for the front, Pirelli P Zero Nero 275/40R20. They are slightly used and were taken off a different car that got racing tires. So I looked up that same size tire for the back but found that Pirelli does not make any in my size. I ended up getting two Pirelli Cinturato P7 315/35R20 for the rear, although I haven't installed them yet. My concern after reading this thread is that my tires are 2 slightly used in the front and two new in the rear. Also the tire models are different. I thought it would be fine since my E53 has a staggered setup from factory and the tire sizes are already different. Also the tires are all made by the same manufacturer, although have different thread patterns being that they are different models. Should I just buy two new tires for the front and keep those other ones as spares or will I be fine with what I planned to do? I also really want to use Michellin but I am kinda stuck with the Pirellis since that is what my coworker gave me and I don't want to be rude if I don't use them. If I get new Pirellis in the front, maybe he won't notice that they are not the same ones he gave me.

Sorry for rambling, also forgot to mention I have an 06 E53 with the 4.8is engine.
Thanks

oldskewel 04-16-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Luisito (Post 1202672)
Im late to the party here but here is my situation. A coworker gave me two tires for the front, Pirelli P Zero Nero 275/40R20. They are slightly used and were taken off a different car that got racing tires. So I looked up that same size tire for the back but found that Pirelli does not make any in my size. I ended up getting two Pirelli Cinturato P7 315/35R20 for the rear, although I haven't installed them yet. My concern after reading this thread is that my tires are 2 slightly used in the front and two new in the rear. Also the tire models are different. I thought it would be fine since my E53 has a staggered setup from factory and the tire sizes are already different. Also the tires are all made by the same manufacturer, although have different thread patterns being that they are different models. Should I just buy two new tires for the front and keep those other ones as spares or will I be fine with what I planned to do? I also really want to use Michellin but I am kinda stuck with the Pirellis since that is what my coworker gave me and I don't want to be rude if I don't use them. If I get new Pirellis in the front, maybe he won't notice that they are not the same ones he gave me.

Sorry for rambling, also forgot to mention I have an 06 E53 with the 4.8is engine.
Thanks

Since you say they came from a car, replaced with racing tires, I'll suggest to first check on the load rating of the tire. Not sure about your '06 4.8is, but my '01 3.0i specifies 103V in the front and 107V in the rear. The V speed rating means any of V W Y Z will work. And 103 or higher will work in the front, 107 or higher in the rear.

Luisito 04-16-2021 03:39 PM

Ok, any clue where I can find the load rating that I’m supposed to have? Is it in the manual?

oldskewel 04-16-2021 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Luisito (Post 1202679)
Ok, any clue where I can find the load rating that I’m supposed to have? Is it in the manual?

Should be. It might also be on the plate inside your driver's door jamb, along with the recommended inflation pressures. And of course the tires will have it on the sidewall.


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