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Boston X5 4.4 08-17-2011 09:57 AM

Have you checked that your calipers are not slightly sticking? I had the 55+ steering wheel wobble twice - once caused by control arms and second time was a sticky caliper.

...agree that it is most likely related to issues with the new tires but I would rule out the easier/cheaper problems first.

GL

Rick27 08-17-2011 10:01 AM

Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. In addition to the tire place, I had also brought it to the dealer and they also balanced the tires. That's not to say that the guy at BMW necessarily knew what he was doing either, but one thing is consistent...neither place fixed the problem.

In fact the tire place says that my right front rim has a very slight bend to it, while BMW specifically told me that there's no bend in any of the rims. :confused:

This morning, the tire place admitted that they haven't had experience with these large tires very often and thought maybe these Conti's aren't the right tire. I explained to him that they're very common for this model and that when considering all-seasons, there are only a handful to choose from either way.

As of 30 minutes ago, he's ordering 4 new DWS's and will swap them out. When I go back, I'm going to ask him about the machine and the person operating it. This should be interesting.....

Thanks again.

btw, I bought the tires from the tire place in Greenwich directly.

Rick27 08-17-2011 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston X5 4.4 (Post 839363)
Have you checked that your calipers are not slightly sticking? I had the 55+ steering wheel wobble twice - once caused by control arms and second time was a sticky caliper.

...agree that it is most likely related to issues with the new tires but I would rule out the easier/cheaper problems first.

GL

I have not, but will check that out before I go the suspension route. Once we swap out the tires, I HOPE it solves the issue but if not, at least I can eliminate the tire problem from the equation. I think. ugh.

Rick27 08-24-2011 10:35 AM

Ok, so I got the X back from the tire shop for the 4th time. Miraculously they ALMOST have fixed the problem. I say "miraculously" because it boggles the mind why they couldn't figure it out the first 3 times. It leads me to believe that it was indeed people who didn't know what they were doing, even though they assured me that "their best people were working on it." Yeah ok.

It's still not 100% though. The steering wheel shakes ever so slightly at 50mph, but not all the time - which I find odd. But at 60mph and above I still feel a little shake in my seat which seems like it's coming from the rear tires, but I can't be sure.

It seems that my driver's side bushing is a little loose, but even they said that it shouldn't cause the shaking, just the little bit of looseness when braking. As far as needing the work that BMW told me...a bunch of BS it seems.

Would it be futile for me to continue to bring it back because it's not 100% or chalk it up to having new all season tires rather than higher quality summers? That will be difficult for me to do. I didn't buy a BMW to have a "decent" driving experience.

ArtMan 08-24-2011 12:08 PM

Hi guys,

Search for my thread "Vibration still!!!!" http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ons-still.html

I had a slight vibration and as you described it got so much worse with new tires i went swaped out with michelins etc still have the problem. ive changed front suspension with cheap then name brand parts not oem though. I changed upper rear control arms and it made a huge help but i still have it. THE worst part is that on some mornings there is no vibration even at 75 and up but on others i can feel the whole car shake at 50ish its ive spent so much money i have given up im just gonna change the rear lower control arm and the rear ball joint since i have 150K and the front trust arms that its if it still vibrating then fuck it ill drive like that. The worst part is i dont see any uneven tire wear nothing.....

mobilejo 08-24-2011 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick27 (Post 840417)
Ok, so I got the X back from the tire shop for the 4th time. Miraculously they ALMOST have fixed the problem.

What did they do this time?

Rick27 08-24-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilejo (Post 840431)
What did they do this time?

Just rebalanced them. They didn't replace the tires as discussed. Like I told them, it seems like they're telling me what they want to tell me and not what really was the problem. I stayed there asking question after question that they deflected, with nothing more than..."we're not sure what the problem was, we rebalanced the wheels." :confused:

Rick27 08-24-2011 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtMan (Post 840426)
Hi guys,

Search for my thread "Vibration still!!!!" http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ons-still.html

I had a slight vibration and as you described it got so much worse with new tires i went swaped out with michelins etc still have the problem. ive changed front suspension with cheap then name brand parts not oem though. I changed upper rear control arms and it made a huge help but i still have it. THE worst part is that on some mornings there is no vibration even at 75 and up but on others i can feel the whole car shake at 50ish its ive spent so much money i have given up im just gonna change the rear lower control arm and the rear ball joint since i have 150K and the front trust arms that its if it still vibrating then fuck it ill drive like that. The worst part is i dont see any uneven tire wear nothing.....

Fun, right? Everything was fine for me before I bought new tires.

ArtMan 08-25-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick27 (Post 840463)
Fun, right? Everything was fine for me before I bought new tires.

Exactly.....everything was ok and yes there was a slight shimmy above 70 but nothing like what i got now. even with all the work done.....still it feels like im driving on pebble road in those old town areas.....and it comes and goes so its not consistent. its driving me insane but i cant afford a new or another used car (afraid of unknown issues it might have at least i know my issues) .......but i have spent 6k in repairs since nov 2010 that includes new tires oil change new AC system overhaul etc......everything so this thing will get me from a to b for a good 2 yrs i am going to get my moneys worth lol. I wish to just figure out what is the shaking/vibration coming from?

Rick27 09-16-2011 06:31 PM

Hey guys, it looks like "the book" mechanics use (mostly dealers' mechanics) to determine how much they're going to rape you in labor, says that it takes 2.5 hours to replace a lower control arm....ONE SIDE.

That sounds excessive from what I've read on this forum. Is it?


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