WHEEL SPACERS
 

where is the best place to buy wheel spacers, i have 20' rims style 87 stagered thnx

no help here?

Hi,

spacers were a discussion here also in the past. So you might be successful with the forum search function. I do have spacers on mine - 45mm per side in the back and 25mm per side on the front. All perfect but not everybody would do that.

Have mine from H&R (H&R Fahrwerkskomponenten - Suspension program / Product search)

Good luck,

Helmuth

If your talking price wise, there is no better place, I bought some 30mm for the rear, none up front for my 4.6is, I'm running 22x10.5 AC Schnitzer wheels front and rear. I searched for the best price for about a week, all of the places I found were within a few bucks of each other, I ended up getting mine on Ebay.

:wavey: I've got a huge selection of H&R as well as our in house ECS Spacer HERE on our site for your E53 X5. Do you know what size spacer you are looking for yet? If not HERE is a pdf which explains how to measure for spacers. Also keep in mind when using spacers you will also need longer wheel bolts, we've made figuring out what you need easy with our Spacer and Wheel Bolt kits.

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ECS Tuning

What size are you looking for? I have one set of 30mm I used on my rears, put about 2,000 miles on them and just switched them out for 20mm. Message me if you want these 30mm.

Now where were you when I needed mine...lol!!!:rofl::rofl:

My bad!? I just switched out because it was kickin up too much dirt on my archless 4.4! You still need them?

Nah, I ended up getting some on Ebay back in July, thanks anyway.

Mine are H&R's. If ANYONE wants these let me know.

thnx guys for all the info

H&R or ECS spacers? what to chose?

H&R

thnx

Our in house ECS brand are on sale with the holiday sale just a little food for thought. Both are great quality, built to the highest standards.

ECS Tuning

These spacers are not rocket science. Buy them wherever you get cheaper shipping. ECS might be a good choice.

Picked mine up at

Turner Motorsport | BMW H&R Wheel Spacers

Just be aware that the better ones are made of an alum/magnesium alloy for lower unsprung weight, have steel threaded inserts and are hard anodized to eliminate Al/Fe electrolysis, this prevents them from becoming frozen to the rotor and Al/Al corrosion that will freeze then to the wheels. Some cheap spacers are raw cast Al and therefore will not be as true as machined spacers. Find the lowest price QUALITY spacers out there, don't buy the cheap ones off e-bay! I chose H&Rs.

You still have those H&Rs available?
Just got some, thx;)

I was thinking about going with the 20mm spacers. Anything negative about adding these? Any premature or uneven tire wear or other issues I should consider?

Running spacers is like running a wheel with a more aggressive offset. Tire wear doesn't change, wear on other components doesn't change. What does change is where the wheel sits in the fender well. Make sure to get the correct length wheel bolts when grabbing your 20mm spacers, HERE is a link to our ECS Spacers with the proper wheel bolts.

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I put 20mm ECS in back...non in front, 19" all around. I'm thinking maybe putting the 20mm up front and throwing a set of 30mm in the rears...Just maybe:) Comments welcome:dunno:

30mm is a huge spacers! We currently don't make one quite that massive and I highly advise against stacking spacers. The only one I would trust is the H&R 30mm found HERE. It is a different design than our ECS 20mm spacers, the H&R 30mm bolts to the hub then the wheel bolts to the spacer (a lot of lug bolts to make sure you properly torque).

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I went with H&R 25mm DRA spacers on the rear, none front. went to 38et offset staggered 19s all around (8.5s & 9.5s) for the added tire/wheel offset.

Thanks. Im undecided between the 20 and 30mm. Hmmmm what to do. Price is the only think keeping me from jumping on the 30's.

^do it..... 30s are monstrous.....

Decided to go with the 30's. ill post pix when they arrive and are mounted. Before and afters.

H&R 20mm install warning!
 

The H&R 20mm spacers install with low head bolts supplied with the kit too, the OEM wheel bolt secure the wheels. To all who install this H&R 20mm spacer kit....the wheel bolts must be cut/ground down by at least 1/16" on the thread end so they actually secure the wheel. If you fail to do this, the bolt will bottom out against the hub and not secure the wheel.

Any pictures yet? I'm thinking about buying some 30's for the rear so it will sit flush with the body so I don't look like a hover car :rofl:. Im currently sitting on stock 15's...

Just ordered them friday from ECS. They haven't arrived yet

Has anyone seen a stock 4.6is 20" wheels on a 4.6is with wheels spacers in rear just to give it a little wider look then it already has

06 4.8is with 30mm H&R spacers

That's just in the rear correct?

Yes just the rears, nothing up front. Not yet at least

what would you put in the front? i just might have to do this!

I wasn't planning on doing the fronts. But after doing the rears, the front wheels are distinctly set in. Now I am probably going to go 15 or 20mm up front.

The problem with doing anything other than the 25mm or 30mm H&R DRA kit, which bolts onto the hub first and then lets you reuse your black OEM bolts on the outside of that, is that the other thinner spacers only come with silver bolts. For me BMW = Black bolts.

If it were not for that one issue, I'd have gone with 10mm to 15mm spacers on the fronts a long time ago. Right now, I only have the 25mm DRA kit on the backs. Still gots a black bolt car, phew!

Waiting for somebody to make longer black bolts so I can do the fronts too!

:rolleyes:

I went with a 38mm et wheel to shift my fronts out 10mm. The problem with going with much more then a 10mm offset is the issue of the filth that the tires sling onto the sides of the truck and the increased bump steer.

You could try to have to bolts sandblasted to dull the chrome, then use a self etching primer, then paint with urethane. It should hold for a while. Or send them to be anodized.

Still have those? Lmk

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I have up to 50mm wheel bolts in black available :D. Those are what you would need for 20mm spacers. HERE is a link to our selection of wheel bolts (scroll down for the black wheel bolts).

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ECS Tuning

ECS,

I ordered a pair of H&R spacers for my 2006 BMW X5 4.8IS and the box I received shows the item number as 60757252 and it matches what's on my order history on your website.

Here's my problem at the moment:

The enclosed instructions on box (blue paper) has line item #3 stating:

"Fasten the TRAK+WHeel Spacer to the hub USING the supplied DRA-bolts"

The DRA bolts are obviously the silver ones that came with the spacers. Looking at the spacer, these bolts obviously go into the countersunk holes with no threads on them correct?

The problem with this is that the DRA bolts (silver) are smaller and will not bite into the thread holes on the factory hub. I tried and they slide in and out without bite.

It looks like the ones that will go on the countersunk holes on the spacers ARE the factory black wheel bolts.

Here's another problem:

Instruction line item #4:

"Install the wheel by centering it on the spacer and mount it with the original bolts"

In following this instruction, the black factory bolts will not thread onto the shiny threaded holes on the spacer because these holes are smaller and look like they're made for the DRA bolts instead.

So it seems like #3 & #4 on the instruction sheet is reversed in terms of what bolt to use where.

But my biggest concern is if it is the DRA bolts that do thread onto the shiny threaded holes on the spacer instead of the countersunk ones, they look to be too short and too small to hold the wheel!

ECS,
Did I receive the correct spacers & bolts for my application????!

1Tymz,
How did you do your install and is the parts kit different from how I'm describing what I got?



MANGO

I'm trying to upload pics but an error seems to keep popping up!

See post #25

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Hey Mango,
I had my friend mount the spacers on for me. I watched him and he said started to put the original black lugs to mount the spacers on. I told him that those were to be mounted on the rim and not the spacer. He laughed as he already tried and the only way they fit is using the original black lug nuts to mount the spacer, then the supplied grey ones to mount the rim to the spacer. It was a perfect fit. Only problem, was that the lugs showing were no longer black. It was not a big deal to me. Im very happy with the new look. I have no complaints.

MANGO - Per H&R those are the correct spaces for your X. Try what 1tymz did, I've had a few sets of H&R spacers come in with what I'll refer to as "backwards" instructions. Most of the time with the large DRA H&R spacers you'll use your stock lugs to mount the spacer to the X5, then use the supplied lugs to mount the Wheel to the spacer.

Keep me in the loop.

James with ECS

Thanks 1tymz!
That's what I figured! Thanks for clarifying that. At least that tells me I'm not slowly losing my mind.

James,
Thanks for double checking.


What's making me have second thoughts about installing the spacers is the eventual use of the DRA bolts to now hold the wheel to the hub.

1. The DRA silver bolts are smaller, shorter, and have a much smaller countersunk
head compared to the factory black bolts. Given the weight of the wheel + tire
and the truck itself, I'm afraid one if not two or so of the DRA bolts will unseat or
worse, shear off. There's just not enough thread there it looks like since they're
so short.

2. Afterall, according to the instructions, H&R expects you to use your factory black
bolts to still hold the wheel to the spacer/hub and not the adapted reverse install

3. The DRA bolts are so short with such a smaller head that I can't even hand tighten
them in the wheel bolt holes without losing my finger grip on them. Once they're
fully threaded in, they're so short and so far in, visually the wheel looks like it's not
even held on by bolts at all. Looking at the spacer with the threaded cavity where these bolts go into, it looks like there's more room for a longer bolt.

So I guess my questions are:

1. Is H&R aware of the typo on their instructions sheet?
2. If so, do they actually endorse using the smaller DRA bolts that came with their
spacers to mount the wheel to the resulting spacer/hub?
3. Or do the original instructions stand and are the factory black bolts really meant to
hold the wheel to the spacer afterall? Which means the install will not work.


Time to give H&R R and D a call.......


MANGO

MANGO - I just blasted off an email to our contact to see what they say.

AWESOME JAMES!!!

Thank you very much! I'm sure we're all learning about this as we go.


MANGO

X5 wheel bolts are 14mm. Sounds like you have a set for an application with 12mm wheel boolts.

I have two H&R sets and the bolts that come with he spacers have shallower heads, those are needed to mount the spacer to the hub. The original bolts hold the wheel to the spacer.

The part number is correct according to the H-R website in Germany. Seems you accidentally got a box with the wrong material in it.

These spacers are specifically made and approved for the e53. I have been running mine for year and nothing has ever broken or sheared.

TriX54
You are indeed correct on the shallower spacer bolts. They look like they really are designed to hold the spacer to the hub and not the wheel to the spacer.
A good part of me do think I may have gotten the wrong hardware inside the right box. Because the reverse installation doesn't make sense and seems unsafe to me.
The two sets you have, did the bolts that came with the spacers thread onto the hub and the factory bolts to the spacer successfully?

James (ECS)
You are our link to H&R at this point in correcting the confusion. Please keep us posted because I will hold off installing the spacers until there's adequate clarification.
If it is indeed a misboxed batch then 1tymz is also in need of a corrected order.

This is turning out to be a cluster. .....


MANGO

Mango - H&R stamps the part numbers on the spacers. This is because in Germany cars have to go in for periodic safety inspections and inspectors have to be able to identify the spacers and verify the application status. In same cases the fact that the car has spacers is part of the registration document!

But I digress, the same part number on the box should be stamped on the edge of the ring. If it does coincide it is a simple case of mistaken identy. If there is no number then there is a more serious problem. Good Luck.

TriX5
What you mentioned above prior, do both of the sets you have mount the spacers to the hub using the silver (smaller) bolts that came with the spacer and the factory bolts are able to thread onto the spacer to hold the wheel?

MANGO

Yes, the silver ones bolt the spacer to the hub and the original bolts hold the wheel to the spacer.

I keep getting "Internal Server Error" in trying to upload photos as part of a show and tell to help this thread out. Anyone know what gives or someone kind enough to upload them for me?


Thanks
MANGO

It is a current site issue, being worked on. Stay tuned.

This is not the only site issue, currently I am unable to post anything longer then two sentences.

I'm waiting to here back on the official word. I'll keep yall updated the second I have confirmation one way or the other.

update: Just figured I'd give a quick up date on MANGO s situation. It turned out there was an error in the packaging of his spacers.

I just swapped out my winter 18" setup for my summer 20" style 87's but I could not get one of the H&R spacers off. I removed 9 of the 10 bolts but one bolt is so stuck it cracked 2 impact sockets trying to get it off.

I swamped it with P&B Blaster. Any ideas how to get this one bolt loose? I really don't need spacers in the summer, I like being able to use my wheel locks on my 87's

ECS Tuning,
I have a problem with my order. I ordered the H&R 20mm spacers for the front of my X5 but the bolts it came with arent the right ones. When my tire guy mounted the spacers using the supplied bolts, the head of the bolt stuck out almost 1/2" and so the rim couldnt mount flush agains the spacer.

Shoot me a PM with your info and I'll look into everything for you.

F! So this happened to two of the steel threaded inserts on same H&R DRA wheel spacer... Both are pulling out (they stopped at the backside of wheel). The pic with two bolts is showing the two inserts are are pulling out. Not sure why As I always only torqued the wheel spacer to hub with 100 ft-lbs and same torque when putting wheel onto this spacer using factory bolts. Wtf.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...18d7cd0dfb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4910295ddf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...65736624dc.jpg

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That's weird. What does the back side of a good hole look like? Now I'm kind of worried because I put DRAs on the S5.

The last pic is the good insert backside. The second last pic showing the backside sucked into tapered hole because of over torqueing (sp?)

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