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Bulk 11-28-2011 11:50 PM

Am I gullible or does this actually work?
 
Throttle-Body-Spacer

JCL 11-29-2011 03:16 AM

You are only gullible if you believe that it will give you a hp increase. It won't.

jdd 11-29-2011 03:24 AM

I think you need to ask yourself the question; would BMW change the design of their throttle body in order to increase power/torque and reduce fuel consumption by the amounts claimed in that advertising?

There have been a number of different designs of these types of devices sold over the years. I have seen first hand on a couple of old carby cars where they did make marginal differences, particularly to economy, but I think their effect on anything fuel injected is negligible at best.

Bulk 11-29-2011 03:25 AM

Thanks guys. I was very sceptical but you just never know these days......

JCL 11-29-2011 03:34 AM

Some tests have shown that theoretically they can have an impact, as long as they are at least 1 meter long. Then you just have to deal with the fact that you have very poor throttle response (and you have a pipe sticking up 1 meter through your hood).

Put it in the same category as the turbinators, vortex generators, miracle magnets on the fuel line, brown's gas generators, and low restriction air filters.

Bulk 11-29-2011 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 853965)
Put it in the same category as the turbinators, vortex generators, miracle magnets on the fuel line, brown's gas generators, and low restriction air filters.

I knew I shouldn't have gone and spent all that money on those things :p:

SlickGT1 11-29-2011 12:45 PM

damnit guys, that's because you don't know anything. You need muffler bearings and blinker fluid. Now that shit works.

mattkins99 11-29-2011 01:31 PM

Don't forget cross drilled brake lines!

petener999 11-29-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 854005)
damnit guys, that's because you don't know anything. You need muffler bearings and blinker fluid. Now that shit works.

:rofl:

ECS Tuning 11-29-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattkins99 (Post 854008)
Don't forget cross drilled brake lines!

and a new radiator insulator and piston return springs!

In all seriousness I'd love to get before and afters on our dyno using these, just in case....

ECS Tuning

PersonaNonGrata 11-29-2011 05:46 PM

All you guys making fun of gadgets that are supposed to increase power and/or reduce fuel consumption -so silly! Don't you know there one magic thing that adds HP instantly with minimal installation hassles, not to mention increases cool points? Behold! Available all over eBay. Guaranteed to add at least 8HP!

So cool it even works with non-BMW vehicles!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIA...ed/m_badge.jpg

SlickGT1 11-29-2011 06:57 PM

Yea but a turbo sticker gives me turbo powa. Black paint is 5hp. Dubs, adds 20hp. Muffler bearings add 14hp. Exhaust whistle that goes woot woot adds 35 friggen hp.

Dinan can suck it. lol.

bigwave2255 11-29-2011 09:29 PM

actually it did work on my jeep cherokee, but then it also had a big bore exhaust extractors and a ported head, the improvement was minimal, but noticeable.

SlickGT1 11-29-2011 09:52 PM

Yea phenolic spacers is what they should be. Supposed to reduce head conduction to the TB. By itself, this ain't doing shit. Deff not worth it without a true CAI, not just a cone filter on the pipe. Really not so much as adding power, but more of a loss of power due to heat soak.

You don't need it.

lo_jack 11-30-2011 04:53 PM

It you tap it for a nitrous jet and put a 50 shot though it, it will add power. Don't forget to reprogram your WOT fuel table.

If it blocks coolant from circulating through the TB, it will help some on power but hurt other ways.

SlickGT1 11-30-2011 05:58 PM

yea like cold start, in the winter, when your car is in 20" of snow, and you just walked around 30 minutes to find it.

lo_jack 12-01-2011 11:25 AM

We don't have that here in Houston. I can run DRs and no TB coolant as long as I live.



But people do use those spacers not for what people sell them for, but for making a nitrous block.


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