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paul1994 12-19-2011 11:34 PM

x5 lost all electrical power.. Help!!
 
I was on my home from work with the family in tow and my baby (my 2001 4.4 x5) just completely went dead. all of the lights and everything was dead. Since I had no hazards i had to get out the car and direct traffic around my disabled vehicle until someone came to help me. While waiting for a friend to arrive the lights and everything came back on after sitting there for awhile 10-20 mins . I thought that was weired but i needed to get the family home so I got in the car and started driving home luckily i was less than two miles away. On the way home the car cut out for a second but when i tapped the breaks it seemed to come back.. not sure what happened.

When I got home I decided to check the battery and maybe alternator by looking at the voltage. After the getting the family into the house i went back outside and the truck was totally dead again. SO I manually open the rear trunk to get to the battery. Midway through taking off the bolts the truck came back alive.

I checked the Battery and it was between 12.-12.9 volts

When I started the truck i read 13~ volts.

SO that being said I am not sure where to start to find the problem.
Could the alternator be bad? over heating , voltage regulator?. I just replaced the alternator 02/10, but i was seeing the voltage increase when started.

Any help or ideas would be very much appreciated. Thank you in advanced!

Bulk 12-19-2011 11:57 PM

Sounds like you have a loose connection. As its all the power going off at once I'd say it's one of the battery cables at either the battery end or the engine bay end.

paul1994 12-20-2011 02:34 AM

I guess i will start at the boot and then check the wires in the engine bay. Could this be a fuse or something...

I recently had my Transmission repaired/replaced. could the removal process / installation damage some cables?

Bulk 12-20-2011 03:23 AM

Won't be a fuse. If it was a fuse the power would just stay off and I'm pretty sure you're not leaking power because you have power then you don't. Check all major lead connections. Remove them and clean them off if need be and then re-connect them.

I would assume they would disconnect the battery for the tranny repair so most likely they've just failed to tighten up a connection

SlickGT1 12-20-2011 12:25 PM

Hold up. So with previous cars, the way I would test if the alternator was working, is disconnect the battery while the car was running.

Does this not work on BMW? Will the alternator not keep the car powered if the battery connection was loose?

chasz17 12-20-2011 12:56 PM

DO NOT DISCONNECT THE BATTERY WHILE THE VEHICLE IS RUNNING UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!

How old is your battery?

paul1994 12-20-2011 02:31 PM

I think the battery is about 3 yrs old. A die hard I picked up from Sears.

chasz17 12-20-2011 02:39 PM

Paul1994,

Battery might be failing. Also, nominal voltage at the battery terminals @ 1k RPM should be 14.4 to 14.6 VDc. Alternator failure after a known good replacement seems unlikely.
Have a "real" (load) test done on your battery at a Autozone or similar.

paul1994 12-20-2011 05:33 PM

I will try to do that tonight..

Would a bad battery cause complete Failure of all electronics in the truck though?

I just thought that was weird.

thedweeb 12-20-2011 08:30 PM

I dont think it's the battery or alternator, as you have zero power one minute then full power the next. As already said I would be checking the main battery connections, sounds as if something is loose somewhere.

Lets us know how you get on.
Dweeb

paul1994 12-21-2011 12:41 AM

Well first of all thanks you for the tips.

I once again this evening removed the compressor for the rear suspension ( The triangle part in the middle :) ) and tried to wiggle and spot anything out of the normal and did not find anything.


I tested the voltage on the battery it looked fine and saw about 13.9 V when it cranked over.

I thought it might be a bad battery when it gets hot the battery expanding and causing a short That seems logical??


I am debating if I shopuld just go back to sears and have them check it out before I take it to the shop on Friday.



I plan on taking it to a independent shop on Friday since I am suppose to do a check up the the transmission i just put in it. So i will have the battery tested then too.

evo2 12-21-2011 01:02 AM

I agree, no way it's the battery or alternator if all power cuts out like that then returns.
Tranny works seems to be the cause of so much trouble afterwards.
Something must have got damaged during the work.
Check for loose/damaged electrical cables.

swissfrank 12-21-2011 02:52 AM

this sounds like an ignition switch problem, easy fix, try troubleshooting that! GL!

evo2 12-21-2011 03:07 AM

Lights and hazards cut out as well, so doubt it's the ignition switch.
They need to work even without a key.

SlickGT1 12-21-2011 11:59 AM

Sounds like some relay is overheating and disconnecting all power.

anthony1k 12-21-2011 02:41 PM

Did you check the ground strap?

paul1994 12-22-2011 12:20 AM

Where is the ground strap located :dunno:

I checked the negative & positive terminal, and the one in the engine bay..

anthony1k 12-22-2011 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul1994 (Post 857373)
Where is the ground strap located :dunno:

I checked the negative & positive terminal, and the one in the engine bay..

RealOEM.com * BMW E53 X5 4.4i Cylinder head cover

Part 18. I believe that there is another for the alternator.

SlickGT1 12-23-2011 11:02 AM

The alternator is in direct contact with the engine. Doubt there would be a ground strap on it.

thedweeb 12-23-2011 05:12 PM

I think the Alternator is rubber mounted so would need a strap.


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