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PandaTrader 03-04-2012 11:04 PM

What's wrong with my power lock?!?
 
Does anybody know what's happening with my power lock? I hit the button to unlock on my remote key and everything opens except driver's side. I have to individually open the driver's side. Now, if I want to lock the my x5 I hit the appropriate key and everything locks except the driver's side again.

What's going on?

Helmuth 03-06-2012 08:29 AM

Hi,

what if you do not use the remote but try to open the whole car with the key? Do all doors open? If not you might have a challenge with the doors connection to the rest of the car.

Good luck.

jlam86 03-06-2012 12:05 PM

I think your door lock actuator is shot. When you get in the car, and lock it from the interior, does the lock pull up and down? If not, it's definitely your door lock actuator

BavariaTexan 03-06-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlam86 (Post 869162)
I think your door lock actuator is shot. When you get in the car, and lock it from the interior, does the lock pull up and down? If not, it's definitely your door lock actuator


This. It is the lock in the driver door.

jlam86 03-06-2012 12:24 PM

Yes and I think every door has it's own actuator/motor that locks and unlocks the door. If all the other doors are working, this could be the issue. I have replaced door lock actuators in the past and what he is describing seems pretty bang on. All doors respond except for driver door.

PandaTrader 03-06-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlam86 (Post 869162)
I think your door lock actuator is shot. When you get in the car, and lock it from the interior, does the lock pull up and down? If not, it's definitely your door lock actuator

When I use the interior lock/ unlock button everything locks or unlocks except driver's side. I have to push it manually down to lock it or use the door handle to unlock.

Thanks

PandaTrader 03-06-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 869130)
Hi,

what if you do not use the remote but try to open the whole car with the key? Do all doors open? If not you might have a challenge with the doors connection to the rest of the car.

Good luck.

If I use the key itself yo lock or unlock it locks or unlocks all of them.

PandaTrader 03-06-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlam86 (Post 869167)
Yes and I think every door has it's own actuator/motor that locks and unlocks the door. If all the other doors are working, this could be the issue. I have replaced door lock actuators in the past and what he is describing seems pretty bang on. All doors respond except for driver door.

How much did it cost to get it fixed?

jlam86 03-06-2012 01:44 PM

There ya go. Try putting your finger on that piece that goes up and down, and push the button at the same time. Does it have any vibration from the motor trying to pull the stick up and down or nothing at all.

But by the sounds of it, I think the driver door lock actuator/motor needs replacing. Let us know how it goes! Good luck!

jlam86 03-06-2012 01:45 PM

I replaced one on an Acura tsx. Discounted price was like $50.

I presume the BMW is going to be more...as everything else is for these cars..

BavariaTexan 03-06-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlam86 (Post 869180)
I replaced one on an Acura tsx. Discounted price was like $50.

I presume the BMW is going to be more...as everything else is for these cars..

That is a glass half empty approach.

barryb97 03-06-2012 03:30 PM

I've replaced two now and the third is in the box on my bench. $165 each from Tischer. Not too difficult, just tedious.

PandaTrader 03-06-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barryb97 (Post 869194)
I've replaced two now and the third is in the box on my bench. $165 each from Tischer. Not too difficult, just tedious.

Hey thanks, I checked it out on tischer. About to order, I need the front left actuator for the driver's side, correct?

JonK 03-06-2012 06:46 PM

Door Lock Actuator
 
I have the same exact problem.
I couldn't lock the door from either with remote or with unlock button.

Did research from here, got DLA from Tischer, and put them on.
It wasn't too hard. Just note it took them two weeks to deliver
Unfortunately, it didn't fix the problem.
Two possibilities.

1. Bad Part From Tischer
2. Electrical Module Needs reprogramming?

What do you think I should do?
FYI I start having many problem after replacing Driver's window regulator. I had to replace the switch, and replaced entire cable assembly.

SlickGT1 03-06-2012 09:49 PM

Maybe disconnect the battery. These cars are funny with electronics.

blkxer 03-06-2012 11:41 PM

I have the exact same problem (front passenger door). Just got the door lock actuator delivered today. Planning on replacing it myself this weekend.

This might help you: http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-actuator.html

PandaTrader 03-07-2012 01:53 AM

Let me know if you had any success.

boostd92 03-09-2012 06:26 PM

General Module failure will cause lots of wierd door lock problems.

I had the RF lock start to act slow, then not at all. I check ed the door harness connector and found GFS. I cleaned that and RF worked again. Now the LF doesn't work (sometimes). Gotta check for GFS at that door but I'm starting to suspect a failing General (Basic) Module.

Luckily I have a friend at the dealer who will let me swap one in to test.

blkxer 03-11-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PandaTrader (Post 869295)
Let me know if you had any success.

Just replaced it yesterday afternoon, and it's working like a champ now. Had a small problem with the door lock indicator not going down on auto/electronic lock (worked on going up), but turns out it had to be seated in a specific way (had to soft click that it had to snap in to position once you have everything back on the door).

Between these 2 links, it's about 2 hrs job for DIY and going at a careful pace. Make sure to reconnect the exterior cable back on again. I forgot to do that before I got everything buttoned back on and had to remove everything again for a second time to reconnect the exterior cable.

Removing door panel: 2 BMW X5 Speaker Package - YouTube

Door lock actuator DIY: http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-actuator.html

JonK 03-11-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonK (Post 869232)
I have the same exact problem.
I couldn't lock the door from either with remote or with unlock button.

Did research from here, got DLA from Tischer, and put them on.
It wasn't too hard. Just note it took them two weeks to deliver
Unfortunately, it didn't fix the problem.
Two possibilities.

1. Bad Part From Tischer
.

Taking out DLA I got from Tischer and sending out for replacement.
Neither with doorlock button, or remote the lock pin won't budge.

I would need more description how to test & Troubleshoot General Module.

I had a trouble with folding mirror like forever. Driver's side mirror has been clicking/vibrating and not moving, and now passenger side mirror fold itself without no reason like forever. Is it possible because of GM issues?

I don't understand what RF(Radio Frequency?) means. But I need to rule it out since it won't work with a doorlock button.

SlickGT1 03-12-2012 02:09 PM

this might sound strange, but have you checked your fuses in the glove compartment? The front doors, have their own fuses, per door. One door can loose all/some power functions, just because of the fuse. Don't ask how I got to find this out.

JonK 03-14-2012 03:49 PM

Didn't have a chance to check all the fuses... On top of my to to list.
However, I found out, every time I see my folding mirror has been folded no reason. I will keep you posted.

gruf 03-19-2012 06:03 PM

i had this problem with the driver’s door and i had the problem of the mirrors not working and the windows not working off the switch in the driver’s door, the memory seats would move mirrors to memory position and the window’s would work off the key and the other switches, this was after replacing my mirrors with new ones form stealers £1800, so i fiddle and pushed and pulled and twisted then read the forum and tried the battery thing, then the driver’s window would work off the driver’s door switch, so after reading forum i thought it either had to be the switch or the connection in the door jam. i went to my mate who reset ecu and cleared all faults, still didn’t work, he said there was no connection in the switch when he tries using the computer to control them, he said it must be the switch cause it’s not responding, so i rang my mate so i could go round and fit my new interior and while i was sitting in the car with it running i plug the driver’s door switch back in and thought let me see if the mirrors would fold, guess what they folded and all the windows would work off the switch and even my passenger door lock indicator wouldn’t go up and down for the last year started to work.

i come to the conclusion that the switch must be like plug and play and the ignition needs to be on for the switch to be recognised, similar to when you plug a device into you home pc and it recognises it and loads drivers..
Hope this helps, it sorted all my lock window and mirror problems at once.
Maybe a lot of parts need to recognised by the car with the ignition on

PandaTrader 03-20-2012 12:06 AM

Ok, I ordered DLA from tischer. It tills till hasn't arrived, but listen to this. It f'in works now. WHat the hell? It worked the day I ordered it and now all doors open and close with remote key for two weeks.

Ok, I don't want to be ungrAteful, but it just doesn't make sense.

SlickGT1 03-20-2012 10:21 AM

I have a problem that is just as messed up. My rear hatch top, won't open or do the soft close thing. I have ordered a new lock, and switch, went to test them out, and same shit, still nothing works. My electrician friend is coming by today to try and diagnose this, because as of now, I am $500 into this, and still can't open my trunk from the outside. The electrical problems in these cars are insane.

JonK 03-20-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PandaTrader (Post 871004)
Ok, I ordered DLA from tischer. It tills till hasn't arrived, but listen to this. It f'in works now..

At least your works. Even with new DLA mine won't work.
It is embarrasing to have to open and lock the driver's side with a key, very circa 1980's.

Obviously BMW electronics has mind of its own.
I am getting tired of throwing parts at them without positive outcome and with negative cash flow.

gruf 03-21-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonK (Post 871071)
At least your works. Even with new DLA mine won't work.
It is embarrasing to have to open and lock the driver's side with a key, very circa 1980's.

Obviously BMW electronics has mind of its own.
I am getting tired of throwing parts at them without positive outcome and with negative cash flow.

try taking the drivers door switch out run the car and replace it.
it worke dof rme and fixed my mirrors my auto fold my windows my drivers door lock and my faulty lock indicator on the passenger side.

SlickGT1 03-21-2012 02:59 PM

Guys find the relays, and start checking them. My electrician just fixed my rear soft close issue. First thing he said is the relays in our cars are bullshit, and should be replaced with either seimans or hella brand. My issue was sticking relay. Once replaced everything started working right away. As soon as he saw them, he knew the problem. He said they fail all the time, and it is an issue with American built BMW, as the german ones have the Seimans.

divinchi 04-19-2012 04:27 PM

Hi, has anyone found out what the problem is? Today I installed the BSW stage one, and after I was done my drivers side lock doesn't work unless manually closing it. Any suggestions?

JonK 04-19-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gruf (Post 871192)
try taking the drivers door switch out run the car and replace it.
it worke dof rme and fixed my mirrors my auto fold my windows my drivers door lock and my faulty lock indicator on the passenger side.

Tried twice and didn't work though.

Now Auto folding mirrors fold themselves whenever I come back to my car.
Also I am not sure if it is related or not sometimes driver's side windows switches doesn't work at all, I had to replug the cables.

FYI I have replaced switches, cables, an actuator for the driver's side.

JonK 06-11-2012 02:25 PM

GM3 (General Module 3)
 
I've been driving around with no Remote Lock working for few months, as well as folding mirrors folding mysteriously.:dunno: Yes I changed DLA, etc.. for nothing.

I did some research
BMW General Module 3 (aka GM3, GM-III, ZKE-III and ZKE3)
I am conclusive that relay failure on the module is causing the problem.
The guy in Torrance (50mi drive from where I am) offers drive thru service for $150 which I am going to give a try. I think that he soldiers and replace the relay.

I will keep you posted.


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