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Ansamoiz 03-27-2012 11:59 PM

Clock setting - Instrument Cluster
 
After pixel repair on cluster my date and time have been reset. How to set the time in the cluster?

I replaced the original NAV with an after market one a few months ago. Will I have to connect the original NAV to set the time?

I have tried the following:

- key in the ignition position 1, press the button on turn signal stick to display clock.
- press the right pin on the cluster
- this brings up "Check Controls" on the display. Time dashes do not blink.

My car is 2002 4.4i - original NAV replaced with an after market one.

frozenwaffles 07-20-2012 08:07 AM

yeah i would like to know this to, but i dont think its possible...

TerminatorX5 07-20-2012 08:29 AM

resler iBus interface, perhaps? and a computer?..

TwinTurboGTR 07-20-2012 09:18 AM

I concur with Term. The way the system is wired, they all talk to each other. Since you had the factory NAV, the iBUS unit went through the nav to control to OBC. Now that you deleted it, the unit can't talk to anything. Only way to do it is to bypass it by using what Term said, or maybe GT1 and going into the computer to change it out.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you go aftermarket and not factory?

I am assuming you had dead pixels or something and that's why you swapped it. I couldn't believe you taking a working unit out and replacing it with a Pioneer or Kenwood head unit.

SlickGT1 07-20-2012 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwinTurboGTR (Post 886912)
I concur with Term. The way the system is wired, they all talk to each other. Since you had the factory NAV, the iBUS unit went through the nav to control to OBC. Now that you deleted it, the unit can't talk to anything. Only way to do it is to bypass it by using what Term said, or maybe GT1 and going into the computer to change it out.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you go aftermarket and not factory?

I am assuming you had dead pixels or something and that's why you swapped it. I couldn't believe you taking a working unit out and replacing it with a Pioneer or Kenwood head unit.

I agree. Plus you just lost so many things by doing this. Your car is now worth so much less. I mean some of these units are cool as hell, but I can't see myself ripping all of this out and loosing OBC.

TerminatorX5 07-20-2012 10:11 AM

Slick, I did not want to be too harsh on the kid from down under - i hope he kept the original equipment and did not cut the wires and the reversing of the damage is still possible... I was looking at some of the units taht mimic the original Nav screen and must admit, the BMW things are waaaay behind the times... But the mere fact that they are totally integrated with the rest of the car, makes them the only proper things to stay in the car. If I walk into a dealer lot and see a pimped beemer with aftermarket sound system, that car is pretty much worthless in my opinion. Unless you are using items that were SPECIFICALLY designed for a BMW model in question by someone who KNOWS his shit, that chinese DVD screen is totally useless..

I did use aftermarket DVDs in the headrests ( I recently got original headrests with built-in monitors, but they really suck). But the headrests monitors are not tied anywhere into the system, even though, the replacement headrests were NOT proper fit for the holes in the seats, so, there is a bit of vibration noise from those aftermarket headrests... Just proves once more, things must be made specifically for BMW in order to fit like a glove...

TwinTurboGTR 07-20-2012 10:24 AM

Bingo! I've seen some pretty aweful stuff people put on their E53's. One time I saw twin trash can mufflers on one with Titanium burnt tips??? Another I saw M badges all over and DINAN on the side skirts. The worse one I saw is when someone thought it was a good idea to put a wing on the back and spinners with a gold lip! DAMN thing looked like a roller skate! I just went up to the 20 something gangta wannabe and said, "Ummm, looks like shit, bud!" Pointed to mind and said, "Now thats how it is supposed to look." He starts poppin' off and the last words I shouted out were, "If you want a ricer, then go buy a 4 banger!" and then got in my X and left.

The only good looking aftermarket thing I have seen on an X is one I saw driving down to Ocean City, MD. 4.8is Le Mans Blue with custom fabricated exhaust. I talked to the owner and he had the Porsche 911 Twin exhaust tips installed. There back end had some fabrication, but damn did it look good!

frozenwaffles 07-27-2012 08:44 AM

Are you guys for real?!?! The BMW nav is really really shit! And the obc basically useless...

TerminatorX5 07-27-2012 08:57 AM

We do agree that the Nav, that was designed in the early to mid 90-s is not upto to par to contemporary standards, when an iPad can outperform the system...

however, just because the pyramids are old, it doesn't mean they are bad design - grossly outdated, yea, but not that bad... BMW, Audi, MB were at the tip of the techno spear when they introduced things into the cars, and then Kia, Hyundai and the rest are copying something that has already been tested - a 1929 Rolls Royce has a huge engine (almost an 8 L) and the horsepower was only just a bit more than 100 hp... Even a small car today beats those numbers...

But sticking an aftermarket Nav into a bimmer is same as opening a Wal-Mart store inside the pyramid...

This is my opinion and I am sure there will be people who want to preserve the integrity of the original, and the ones who have no patience for the age...

SlickGT1 07-27-2012 09:42 AM

I don't know how the nav is shit. One it works. I have taken the car on multiple trips without a hiccup. It didn't get lost, it got me around detours, and all that. I have a factory AUX port, so I can play music from my iphone. Really, what else do you need. It also plays MP3s from the CD changer, although I don't use the CD changer at all. I have it loaded with a bunch of CDs just in case. I rarely turn on music at all. Most of the time just because my baby wants to hear some music. Clearly OBC is not useless. You now can't set clock. You now can't run any of the OBC diagnostics tests, or can you? You can never reset your gas mileage. This is stuff that I use all the time.

Plus when you go to sell the car, I promise you that there will be a ton of people that will look at an aftermarket unit, as a piece of shit. Your price when selling the car will drop a cool grand because of this. That is if people even want to look at a car that has been "butchered". When I was buying mine, there was a Lemans blue one, that someone did the same thing to the nav. I didn't even bother looking at it. It sold, I think, on ebay, for $3k less than I paid for my car. Think about this.

frozenwaffles 07-28-2012 12:17 AM

So does any know how to set the time with out a BMW headunit? Lol

TerminatorX5 07-28-2012 12:21 AM

you can use NavCoder software and sync the time in the car to the time in the computer using the iBus adapter. I use OBD II connector to USB port, the OBD port obciously has an ibus feed in it. A lot of people use Resler adapter

frozenwaffles 07-28-2012 12:34 AM

Thankyou very much :)
That software looks great!

Quicksilver 07-28-2012 09:21 PM

Or you could hang a watch on the rear view mirror....:rofl::rofl::rofl:

TerminatorX5 07-28-2012 09:25 PM

or, if you still had the OE Navigation, you could have synchronized the car clock to the satellite GPS clock... too late now... lol...

SlickGT1 07-28-2012 09:25 PM

You might as well measure the shadow that the x casts throughout your day.

Quicksilver 07-28-2012 09:30 PM

Hey:

Why not take some pictures and let's have a look at what ya got.
I believe some of us would like to see what you did and how it
turned out.....:dunno:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ansamoiz (Post 872082)
After pixel repair on cluster my date and time have been reset. How to set the time in the cluster?

I replaced the original NAV with an after market one a few months ago. Will I have to connect the original NAV to set the time?

I have tried the following:

- key in the ignition position 1, press the button on turn signal stick to display clock.
- press the right pin on the cluster
- this brings up "Check Controls" on the display. Time dashes do not blink.

My car is 2002 4.4i - original NAV replaced with an after market one.


frozenwaffles 07-28-2012 09:47 PM

Oh dont worry i will ;)

PS by the time you have finished typing (via a wheel/knob) in your destination... i will be well on my way, know the traffic conditions, be choosing from a zillion songs on my ipod with all my album art and using a touch display :)
Its my choice... you guys really need to stop clouding up the forum with pointless opinions about something that has nothing to do with the original post!!!

SlickGT1 07-28-2012 10:35 PM

Yea but I can set my time. Oh and I use Waze Navi, along with a bell 995pro, along with a jammer, along with a 4.8is. I think I will still get there faster, and be able to tell the time I got there, the mileage my x did, and everything else the OBC does. So there, lol.

But yea we just messing. As far as clouding up the forums, keep that opinion to yourself. I think most of the people replying here, have contributed more than you. It's our knowledge, that we already have under our belt , after reading countless posts, of how these aftermarket Navis end up. Had you clicked the search button before buying your Nav, you would have known, maybe even thought about the decision more.

We still want to see it, and get follow up on it's functions and longetivety.

And don't blame us for pocking fun, we can't always be helping people solve problems that have been beaten to death. Click the search button, and maybe you will find people installing OBC controls in the glovebox. Hmmm. you can set time with your fancy nav after all.

TerminatorX5 07-28-2012 10:50 PM

There is more information floating inside the car that meets the eye - from oil temperature, to the speed of the air flowing through the MAF, to "you-name-it"... I was watching the pressure levels at the air suspension on each corner, some weird numbers for the valve angles and whole bunch of other things that I have no idea what they are for...

The user interface is for general public and it is seriously dumbed down - we can't expect a busy mom with 3 kids going to a soccer practice and picking up the laundry on the way back from grocery store look at the G-forces that her X is pulling as she is trying to get home before husband comes home!!!

For those of us who want those numbers, you can pull them using the CIS-IBUS and a CarPC, which will do much much more than a Java-operated Chinese Nav headunit... I'll be honest, I had problems with the PC portion of the set up, that is why I am not running it, but when the PC was operational, you can do anything you want with a PC using the factory headunit... minus the touch screen, I must admit, touch screen is a nice thing to have...

SlickGT1 07-29-2012 06:40 AM

Yup, I miss my Lexus touchscreen. Stupid spinning knob.

tenpole 01-01-2018 09:16 AM

Has there been any break through with setting the dash clock. I fitted an Eonon unit to the wifes X5 as she wanted a bluetooth system for her phone and wanted a better navigation system.

Qsilver7 01-01-2018 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenpole (Post 1125226)
Has there been any break through with setting the dash clock. I fitted an Eonon unit to the wifes X5 as she wanted a bluetooth system for her phone and wanted a better navigation system.

Are you asking about the original clock that's accessed through the original MID or Nav screen? Or are you asking about the aftermarket install's clock?

Hmm, no vehicle info (model/model year/build date/etc)...so I'll assume you have the high cluster that has the 20 digit alpha/numeric display...which could be programmed to have any of the OBC features appear in the cluster's display.

Unfortunately...when you removed either your MID or Nav screen...you removed the component that allows you to control the programming of the vehicles original Clock. So unless you plug the MID or the Nav screen back in...any of the OBC functions you want to change or reset...are no longer available.

But doesn't the aftermarket unit you install have it's own clock?

Overboost 01-01-2018 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenpole (Post 1125226)
Has there been any break through with setting the dash clock. I fitted an Eonon unit to the wifes X5 as she wanted a bluetooth system for her phone and wanted a better navigation system.

Providing your Eonon has a USB port, you can order this iBus interface and will allow all the MID functions and more.

IBUS Interface for BMW cars

tenpole 01-01-2018 12:07 PM

I tried to sort out my signature with the model. It is an E53 3.0d Sport and as you assumed it was the large screen 20 button model with sat nav. This head unit has a clock as did the old unit. It is no great hardship to loose the clock but if I could fix it I would. I see on you tube someone had wired up a digital clock mechanism that could send the time to the dash.

Crowz 01-01-2018 05:11 PM

Two methods.

One like mentioned uses an android stereo and the ibus adapter linked above. It will automatically set the clock each time you start the vehicle. Very handy.

Second method is to use an android phone with the above linked ibus adapter. Each time you run the app on the phone with it plugged into the ibus adapter it will set the clock on your X5.

That's the only two options within reason without the factory stereo.

tenpole 01-02-2018 04:25 PM

Other than the clock on the dash, what other functions have I lost by removing the original unit that may be of concern.

wpoll 01-02-2018 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenpole (Post 1125404)
Other than the clock on the dash, what other functions have I lost by removing the original unit that may be of concern.

Only some basic trip computer and fuel usage info. Maybe the speed limit warning too (not sure as I have a CD/MID and not the OEM Nav.)

I believe the I-Bus app also returns access to these function. :dunno:

Crowz 01-02-2018 05:40 PM

Ibus adapter and the app for it returns all functions that the factory nav unit had and adds a ton of new features.


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