Help please, new alloys, genuine or fake?
 

Hi, i have just had a new set of style 168 alloys delivered. I asked the seller many times to assure me they were genuine. he told me they were ronal and were made for bmw, I have had ronal wheels before and i know they make oem wheels for a lot of cars.
I just have my suspicions.
Ronal sticker and not stamp on wheel.
no bmw part numbers.
various stamps on wheel inc:
jw via 785kg
>w-476<
bmw 9 799 098
155 20%101/2jj
11+++++
et30
wheels go from alloy colour through to gunmetal grey to back.

Hope someone can help.

IMHO i think they are fake. If they were Ronal, why would they put a BMW stamp on it? It's either one or the other.

Worried now

Actually taking a better look at the COA, there are errors on the certificate. With such a big company, you would think they would have someone checking how a certificate is drafted. It really should read:These wheels come with a one year warranty against structural integrity and paint degradation. or something to that effect.

"These wheels come with one years warranty". :rofl::rofl:

So I'll take that as fake then?
Got them from supersportwheels.co.uk

Easy telltale right in the pic. No front stampings

front stampings?

There usually be stamp on the front of the wheel around the bolt holes.
Here is a real set http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/par...20-wheels.html

Your second picture has so many dents, markings, scratches(?), etc. painted over. There is no way that these could be BMW OEM wheels. Sorry.

I have these sitting unmounted now. They came on my new X5 and I don't recall seeing Ronal stamp on it.
Below are pics of genuine 168 wheels. The size of wheel is right below BMW part #.

Thanks Guys, i guess I'll try and return them.

The photos from LeMansX5 show the clearest differences between genuine and what you got. There cannot be that much variation from one lot to the next. Good luck with the return. Even though they are replicas they might not be bad wheels. The seller should just be honest about it and price accordingly.

Your right, all that is required is honesty sometimes, they were £1750 with Bridgestone's on.
Just weighed one of the rears, it was 83lb, seems a little heavy.
Guy I phoned and told him they were comming back was not best pleased!

That price would be OK if it were US $.

My question is this. What does it matter really? Just to say that they are genuine? I bought a set of 168s for $720. Yes they are OEM. They look good and ride good. If you think because they are OEM that they will break, I've seem quite a few pics of OEs that break also. So I ask again, what's the difference? For that price, you won't get new OEs and tires.

The difference is actually quite significant. All around better metal and casting means that you get a lighter wheel that resists bending and damage far better.

Aside from the 'quality' issue, it would be the principle of the purchase, for me. Some idiot is pumping knock offs as the real part, and not even couching them as NOS. And, he ripped the OP on price, too...though the OP might have considered that if the price is too good, it's too good & suspect.

If I remember correctly, the weight on the box said 42 lbs. I picked them up and I'm sure that was just an approximate weight for shipping purposed. So I don't think they're too much heavier than OE. Also, I personally saw an OE Style 87 split in half, like a bagel.

I agree with you. I knew for sure that the ones I bought were OEM. This guy that is trying to sell them as OE needs his ass kicked.

I still maintain my comments. Good luck with the reps.

The amount of lead required to balance them is not a good sign either, new rims and tyres should need a lot less lead straight out the box!

Emailed pics to Ronel and got email back saying definate fakes. Seller still insisted genuine, maybe he was cought too? Courier collected today. I will look at non oe wheels but from a seller who deals in non oe. Just was a bet worried these maybe shipped in from China and not up to safety standards ect. Also if I am lied to about the wheels, what about the tyres?

They are fake. The certificate says 100% genuine. Of course they are genuine? But genuine what? It didn't say 100% genuine BMW wheels! besides, look at defects on the rib next to the stamp! Best of luck!

If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, it probably is a duck!!

I know I'm late to the party, and not trying to start anything, but the factory wheels I have say RONAL and BMW on them.

The markings look exactly like lemansX5's except in my pic you can see the other side of the wheel - which say made in Mexico and RONAL.

Of course, mine aren't as clean as lemansx5's. LOL.

http://thumbnails12.imagebam.com/192...c619275636.gif

I call fake, the RONAL on the outer rim in white seems like BS. Even on my ACS wheels, it has the same RONAL stamp (IIRC) that TwinsPopa has on the wheel.

It should also have a # of sorts on the front in between the bolt holes.

get cheap OEM on craigslist

Your pic seems to be of real wheels. Mine also has Ronal at same location.

Good luck with that. I found that most on Craigslist were "refinished" (which in some cases means rebuilt).

I'm not talking about the OEM "take-offs" that one might find. To me, those are the best deals...