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ake53 07-12-2012 08:26 PM

PLEASE HELP WITH SIDE MIRROR REMOVAL (watch video) THANKS
 
hey everyone. thanks for reading my thread. Hopefully someone can help me out here....

Bought the X with bad mirror.---- ordered new mirror.
00-06 BMW X5 Series E53 Heated LEFT Driver Door Mirror Glass | eBay
mirror cam in different than on pictures

Heres a video to explain the situation...
Xoutpost mirror - YouTube
THANK YOU

TwinTurboGTR 07-12-2012 08:38 PM

Ok, you're almost there. So you want to move the mirror so it is pointing up. Then take a flat screwdriver, wrap the head with a few wraps of electrical tape and wedge it on the bottom. From there, pry the holder up and it should slide out of its holder. Installation is opposite of removal but, flip the motor plate down and slide the backing onto the pins.

ake53 07-13-2012 08:01 AM

that sounds as it may work.
I'm just trying to be careful not to break the whole mirror setup.

Has anyone else done this before? (tips on how to remove the glass piece)

TwinTurboGTR 07-13-2012 08:10 AM

Yeah, I did it a few month ago on the drivers side. The glass is held on by a pressure slide fit. Just gently pry the plastic piece up and it will come out.

TwinTurboGTR 07-13-2012 08:14 AM

Here is the TIS for the mirror replacement.

BMW TIS - 51 16 026 Replacing mirror glass for rear-view mirror (on front door)

mrbmwx5 07-13-2012 08:26 AM

http://www.xoutpost.com/miscellaneou...placement.html

Ricky Bobby 07-13-2012 11:23 AM

make sure you pry up first to pop the clips out!

DO NOT PRY OUT FIRST, you will break the clips off the backing plate.

I did that in a hurry (it was cold in winter) and I had to buy a "mirror motor repair kit" which had a new backing plate and motor, and had to take apart that, in order to get the replacement backing plate off to use on my mirror motor. It was a 165 dollar mistake!

ake53 07-13-2012 12:43 PM

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP! Mirror Finally off and replaced!
Didn't break anything while replacing.

Sources used
for Xoutpost - YouTube
http://www.xoutpost.com/miscellaneou...placement.html
BMW TIS - 51 16 026 Replacing mirror glass for rear-view mirror (on front door)

TerminatorX5 07-13-2012 12:46 PM

I was hoping that seller in Latvia would have aspheric, heated, electrochromatic glass - but he did not... :(

ake53 07-13-2012 01:43 PM

it does not have auto dimming connection which i noticed after

TerminatorX5 07-13-2012 01:45 PM

heated aspheric is shown in real oem at $140 while the same + electrochromatic - $350.

I can't see spending $350 on glass, even though it is a crucial piece of safety equipment

jgold47 11-20-2012 08:16 PM

Do all 53's have the wiring for the auto dim? I think mine got replaced with a cheap nothing glass. I would pay for a dim if its plug and play

Qsilver7 11-20-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 907871)
Do all 53's have the wiring for the auto dim? I think mine got replaced with a cheap nothing glass. I would pay for a dim if its plug and play

If the e53 is like the e38 & e39...then the answer is no. Unlike the interior rearview mirror which has the wiring in an electrical harness above the headliner if the car doesn't come with a mirror that requires an electrical harness (for rain sensor/EC/compass/etc)...the side mirrors require a wiring kit if the option isn't installed (or listed) on the build sheet.

Have you pulled up your build sheet on that site that get's posted all the time? If you have...see if you have option code S430A listed (outside & interior mirror w/auto-dip)...if you do, then you have the wires for the auto dim option already installed and ran to the outside mirrors.

Yep...just checked realoem.com...you'd need to order the retrofit cables for the outside EC mirrors if you want to upgrade to them...BMW part nbr 61 12 0 140 175.


jgold47 11-20-2012 11:50 PM

Very good. Just good old blue ones for me then. I suppose I could always pop the one out first and see what's there before ordering. Perhaps an aspherical one then

Qsilver7 11-21-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 907897)
Very good. Just good old blue ones for me then. I suppose I could always pop the one out first and see what's there before ordering. Perhaps an aspherical one then

That's what I'd do (pop one out to take a look-see). And if you just have the regular heated mirrors...I'd definitely opt for an aspherical (wide angle) heated mirror...at least on the driver's side.

I upgraded my e34/e38, & e39 with the aspherical mirror (on the driver's side) and really miss not having it on my X5. Scouring the internet for an EC/heated/aspherical left side mirror has been one of the first things I've done in my first week of X5 ownership. :) I did find a couple of vendors in Europe...but the cost is still high for the auto dim (EC) aspherical/heated mirrors. But the search continues. :)

jgold47 12-20-2012 06:26 PM

so how do you set up those damn euro mirrors. I must be doing something wrong because I hate it. I cant see anything correctly!

Qsilver7 12-20-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jgold47 (Post 912941)
so how do you set up those damn euro mirrors. I must be doing something wrong because I hate it. I cant see anything correctly!

So...you went ahead and got some wide angle mirrors? If so, which side....left, right, or both? :)

I took the plunge and I'm awaiting a pair of used ones to cross the Atlantic...hopefully they'll get here before Xmas but I doubt it since I just got an email yesterday that they were shipped. :popcorn: I can't wait because I feel the opposite as you...I fee uneasy looking in the X5's mirrors because I can barely see anything in the lanes to either side...I'm used to seeing way more...and I'm uncomfortable now when changing lanes. :eeps:

(my used EC/heated/aspherical mirrors - coming from Riga, Latvia)
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7559/img5592fk.jpg

If this is your first time with them...it may take a week or so to get used to not having a 1:1 viewing ratio...especially on the driver's side. The mirror becomes more of a "driving" mirror to see what things are in the driving lanes behind and to the side of you instead of a mirror you look into to check out things (like pretty young things walking down the sidewalk, or something of interest that's caught your eye that you've passed...or for those of us that have a bit of vanity...your own reflection. :D). Just like we do for the passenger side, it becomes more for checking for things in the lanes around you.

You set the left mirror just as you would a regular 1:1 mirror where the view on the far right of the driver's mirror should look down the side of the car when you've place your left ear against the glass...the view you should see when sitting straight should be approx 40° out from the side of the car. To set the right (passenger side) mirror...lean toward the middle of the car...then again, set the LEFT side of that mirror where it is looking down the side of the car...when you're sitting straight in the driver's seat, it should provide a 40° view to your right.

Side mirror site line:



In the images below (my old e39 540iT)...you can see how the white vehicle that is to my rear in the next lane...me moves up the side and by the time his rear end is in the "bent" section of the mirror...I can clearly see the front end of the vehicle in my peripheral vision...all this is done by just glancing in the mirror without having to turn my head:


SlickGT1 12-20-2012 08:58 PM

Holy crap that is nice. How much did it run you.

Qsilver7 12-20-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickGT1 (Post 912967)
Holy crap that is nice. How much did it run you.

I still paid more than what my original price point was...but after getting back into my e38 w/wide angle mirrors, then returning to the X5...I couldn't take the limited viewing angle so I put an alert up on eBay for anyone selling the EC/heated/wide angle E53 side mirrors...and most were single mirrors (LH or RH) for around GBP 140-150 ea.

I almost went with a seller named uswomanseller...she/he was selling both a left & right mirror separately...so I emailed her to see if she would cut a deal. She emailed me back and said that she would only charge the shipping price for one mirror (US $10). I almost went with her until I got another alert for the pair of mirrors I eventually went with. Here's a link to her LH mirror...I see that she has dropped her price down to US $123...but the RH mirror is still US $141:

LH Mirror: 00 06 BMW x5 Series E53 Heated Auto Dim Mirror Glass LH L Left Driver Side | eBay
RH Mirror: 00 06 BMW x5 Series E53 Heated Auto Dim Door Wing Mirror Glass RH Right Side | eBay

The (LH/RH) set of mirrors I went with cost GBP 145 (approx US $238)...which was a few dollars less than buying them individually...and a whol lot less than buying them brand new from BMW. If you want to forgo the auto dim (EC) feature and just stick with heated/wide angle...you can find them for under US $100

Oh before I forget...the vendor was eBay seller: bmwelshoplv

PS...on my way out the door this morning..."Brown" (UPS) left 4 big boxes on my porch. My style 87 wheels arrived way earlier than I expected. I never heard the doorbell ring and I discovered them around 7 am this morning. (merry Xmas to me) :D

SlickGT1 12-20-2012 10:30 PM

Congrats On the rims. Pics or it didn't happen.

Yea I am going to order the same set as you. Thanks for the excellent idea. Do you have a specific part number that you searched by? No biggie either way, I'm sure real OEM has it.

Qsilver7 12-20-2012 11:45 PM

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E53 X5 wide angle/auto dim/heated side view mirrors:
  • 51 16 7 039 595- Left side
  • 51 16 7 039 596 - Right side

Oh man...I can't believe I let you talk me into messing with these wheels tonight. They were (and still are :yawn:) stacked in the foyer where I quickly moved them this morning to get them out of the rain/snow.

SlickGT1 12-21-2012 12:14 AM

Nice Thank you. Can't wait to get a set.

ake53 12-21-2012 08:42 AM

nice rims. I picked up style 57 off craiglist as secound set for now.

TerminatorX5 12-21-2012 09:47 AM

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here these wheels covered in Plasti-Dip on 4.8iS

JPuma 03-12-2013 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 913035)
here these wheels covered in Plasti-Dip on 4.8iS

I've been catching up on this dipping. I think I need to give it a try. I have the same rims, but mine are chrome from AFS Wheels in CA.

So did you take the wheels off and the bmw cap to spray them?
Did you clean them first especially in the back and remove all the build up, how did you get the heavy grime off?
Did you spray the lug nuts individually or with them on?

I have a silver X5 and blacking out these rims will look mean! :thumbup:

TerminatorX5 03-12-2013 08:26 AM

:thumbup:
Quote:

Originally Posted by JPuma (Post 926459)
I've been catching up on this dipping. I think I need to give it a try. I have the same rims, but mine are chrome from AFS Wheels in CA.

So did you take the wheels off and the bmw cap to spray them?
Did you clean them first especially in the back and remove all the build up, how did you get the heavy grime off?
Did you spray the lug nuts individually or with them on?

I have a silver X5 and blacking out these rims will look mean! :thumbup:

you just clean the wheel with your favorite cleaner (i don't have a favorite one), i just clean them up, so there is nothing heavy on them, let them dry and spray paint them... first time i did it, the wheels were off the car, so the lug nuts did not get painted... after the first time, i did couple touch up, while the wheels were on the car - the initial painting happened in August of 2012, the paint stayed on fine and started to peel in February of 2013, so it needed repainted...

you do not need to prep the surface - just make sure that the bugs don't land on fresh paint, seems that they like the smell or something... once the paint dries up, it is like cellophane, or plastic bag - hence the name, Plasti-Dip... If you get something wrong, wait for it to dry, and then peel it off... at $6 a can, you can afford to experiment...

m5james 07-16-2013 08:15 PM

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Looking at my picture, I'm trying to determine if I need to get a heated mirror only or auto dimming as well since it's all blacked out and has a double image now.

TerminatorX5 07-16-2013 09:11 PM

you got this option

S430A INNEN-/AUSSENSPIEGEL AUT.ABBLENDEND Interior/outside mirror with auto dip

Qsilver7 07-17-2013 12:44 PM

Your image doesn't give enough visual cues to be able to tell (can't tell if it has the thicker black band around the circumference)...but the option pkg TX5 looked up based on your VIN & option list...the answer is yes...you have the EC (electrochromatic - auto dimming) side view mirrors.

Regardless that the image below is the aspheric/EC/heated mirror...you can still see the thick band around the mirror glass that is a visual tell tale that you have the auto dimming mirror glass:


And if you pop the mirror glass off the circular piece that secures it to the motor & flip it around, you can see the 2 wires (upper right) that heat the mirror glass, and the electrical connector (has purple & black wires) that dims/brightens the mirror glass:


m5james 07-18-2013 04:35 AM

Yes, mine has the fat band around the edges. I'm hoping this is just a random occurrence since the ones on my last X5 never failed vs there being some wiring issues: it stuck in heat or dimming mode, etc. as to whatever caused this mirror to fail.

Thanks, guys.

TerminatorX5 07-18-2013 06:11 AM

since you are going for a replacement glass, you might as well consider an aspheric glass - it will increase your overall safety by providing wider angle of view.

check fleabay, there are some baltic breakers that sell correct glasses that fit the car...

Diarmuid66 08-20-2014 01:45 PM

Any hints on getting the backing plate off ? seems to be a clip top right opposite the connectors for the heater wires . Having got the glass +housing off (thanks TwinTurboGTR) I don`t want to break anything now . Spent a comedy five minutes trying to push the replacement glass straight on without the backing plate before I realized I had more work to do !


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