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higreenx5 09-30-2012 09:03 PM

Electrical HELP!!!!
 
Hi,
My wife decided that her 96 X5 4.4 cargo compartment needed a bath so she dumped on gallon of water into the cargo well.
Nothing seemed to get damaged in the well, the Sirius works, PDC works, the radio turns on and so does air suspension

Now I have no sound from Speakers, just subwoofer
Pulled all the radio fuses, can it be the amp? It never got wet.
Are their any other fuses or relays beside the 3 listed?

2nd problem She said sunroof stopped working so I pulled sunroof Fuse, now all the inteior lights do not work, Nothing not manually not with door, tried the 3 secong hold on the main lamp NOTHING. Is there another set of fuses besides glove box and cargo, lamp fuse is fine

I pulled the negative cable for 45 minutes.

Does Anybody have online wiring diagram? BMW Repair manual?

SlickGT1 09-30-2012 09:49 PM

Dude what? A gallon. That is like a lot of water. That's a ton of electrical equipment in there. Yes there are fuses under the cover. Take out cover and start looking. Follow the positive cables.

higreenx5 10-01-2012 09:45 AM

If I need to replace AMP is there a clean easy(read:no wire cutting) aftermarket install?

One more weird thing...the SUB still makes sound.

Any further thoughts on Lights? BMW seems to have tied light madule with Radio according to wiring diagram.

higreenx5 10-01-2012 03:01 PM

Bump...

Wholeo1955 10-02-2012 02:36 PM

Water storage area, I had the same thing
 
I had the very same issue happen, the ait suspension blem the pas air ride bag, then the compressor, but also the circuit control box the starts and stops the air ride compressor to run, so that will suck the money out of your wallet, I had the indy take out the drain plug and no troubles since, my recom, is to leave that plug out mine was almost half way up to the spare tire, so it was overfull, and I dont know where it was entering the back but no more since !!!!

Skyline 10-02-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by higreenx5 (Post 899867)
Hi,
My wife decided that her 96 X5 4.4 cargo compartment needed a bath so she dumped on gallon of water into the cargo well.

WTF??????????

Reminds me on when my friend's FIL drove his 968 into a puddle thinking it was a few inches deep, and surprise, the water went up to the windshield. Had the car not been less than 1 year old ($95K new) it would have been totaled. Repair cost: $36K at an independent shop; most of the repair bill was for modules and front end wiring harness.

The front firewall area of the Porsche looks very similar to the spare tire well/rear inner fenders of the X5. Nothing but wires and electronics everywhere you look. This is NOT an area to get wet.

I think this was your wife's way of telling you: "Honey, from now on it is your job to clean my car. Look at what happens when I do it!"

tmv 10-02-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by higreenx5 (Post 899867)
Hi,
My wife decided that her 96 X5 4.4 cargo compartment needed a bath so she dumped on gallon of water into the cargo well.

This doesn't exist.

higreenx5 10-02-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmv (Post 900207)
This doesn't exist.

Thanks for being the a$$**le of the thread, your input has solved my problem.

On another note this may be the worst forum I have ever been a part of, I asked for some sort of practical advice from other X5 owners and I get I drowned a car once and a smartass know nothing.

Here is the answer the AMP is dead, the sub will still work since it does not use the same crossover as the speakers.
Honestly you want me to pay $35 to be a premium member when I get zero assistance from the group.

My lights did not work since I moved the fuse 1 over, How about a resource of the fuses and there amperages.

capea4 10-02-2012 08:30 PM

in the spare tire well is a box mounted vertically with a white cover, there are several large red wires heading into it, pull the white cover and check the fuses there, they are a flat anl type fuse and there are several

capea4 10-02-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by higreenx5 (Post 899928)
If I need to replace AMP is there a clean easy(read:no wire cutting) aftermarket install?

One more weird thing...the SUB still makes sound.

Any further thoughts on Lights? BMW seems to have tied light madule with Radio according to wiring diagram.

NO, i wish there was...
this is what i went through, granted for a different reason
BMW X5 - DIYMA Car Audio Forum
you NEED that amp working

tmv 10-02-2012 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by higreenx5 (Post 900259)
Thanks for being the a$$**le of the thread, your input has solved my problem.

On another note this may be the worst forum I have ever been a part of, [GTFO then] I asked for some sort of practical advice from other X5 owners and I get I drowned a car once and a smartass know nothing.<-- this must be you since you don't even know the year of your car.

Here is the answer the AMP is dead, the sub will still work since it does not use the same crossover as the speakers.
Honestly you want me to pay $35 to be a premium member when I get zero assistance from the group. None of us ever had a wife stupid enough to dump water onto electronic components. A member would get equal amount of helps regarless of the level of membership. As stated above, if you don't like it, GTFO.

My lights did not work since I moved the fuse 1 over, How about a resource of the fuses and there amperages.

:thebird: Your attitute would get you lots of helps. :slap: I don't know how others can help you with problem on the vehicle that doesn't exist. You don't even know what year your car is, no wonder why your wife didn't know any better than dumping a gallon of water into the cargo well. What a match!
Instead of fixing the mistake that I point out, you choose to throw out your attitute. GL with whateverthefuck you're trying to fix and welcome to my ignored list.

Bill Valley 10-02-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by higreenx5 (Post 900259)
On another note this may be the worst forum I have ever been a part of, I asked for some sort of practical advice from other X5 owners and I get I drowned a car once and a smartass know nothing.

:bustingup What a coincidence...this has to be the worst post I have ever read! Dude, seriously, there are so many things wrong with your post. If you want pragmatic responses to your posts, you need to start by providing relevant facts.

dhyrk3 10-03-2012 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmv (Post 900268)
:thebird: Your attitute would get you lots of helps. :slap: I don't know how others can help you with problem on the vehicle that doesn't exist. You don't even know what year is your car, no wonder why your wife didn't know any better than dumping a gallon of water into the cargo well. What a match!
Instead of fixing the mistake that I point out, you choose to throw out your attitute. GL with whateverthefuck you're trying to fix and welcome to my ignored list.


Amen to this !!! :thumbup:

SlickGT1 10-03-2012 07:48 AM

Worst forum? Try the best you noob, the one who doesn't even know the year of car. Or who puts a gal of water in the electronics bay. And TMV was just jocking to get you to fix the year of car. Since you are a dumbass, I will let you know that knowing the year of car plays a role.

Skyline 10-03-2012 10:03 AM

What I don't get is why higreenX5 starts pulling fuses when things are not working. To see if they are blown?

>higreenX5: A quick way to find blown fuses without yanking them out is to get a simple lit ciircuit tester probe like this, (Craftsman sells something similar for much less):

EECT300HR, Tester, Circuit, for 6 and 12V Systems, Red

Connect the aligator clip to a good ground. While the ignition is on, you can touch the end of the probe to each fuse. The fuses have a tiny "window" at each end with exposed metal. Touch this, and make sure the probe lights at both ends. If it does, the fuse is good. In about 30 seconds you can check the whole fusebox. You might want to check both fuse boxes; the one in the rear, and the one over the glove box. NEVER switch in fuses of the wrong amperage. Go to an auto store and buy an assortment so you can put in the correct replacement for any blown fuse.

But while my earlier post poked a little fun, my story about the Porsche was for a reason...to show how potentially grave the damage could be by dumping water into the electronics. Even componenets that can be dried out and made to work can have their lifespan shortened dramatically due to corrosion of internal components.

Aside from checking the fuses, you are getting into an area where only the most skilled automotive diagnostic technician will have success. If you can narrow down exactly what got wet, that might give a leg up, but with cars with all sorts of interconnected electronics, it is not uncommon for a bad module to cause another downstream to fail. In reality, any electronic module that got really wet should be replaced...plus any that failed secondarily.

Finally, have you considered an auto insurance claim for this car? This was accidental damage, and repair costs will likely exceed your deductible if you have "Comprehensive" coverage. In my story about the Porsche, the only way Porsche was willing to honor the warranty down the road was if 100% of the components that got wet were replaced. This car had all sorts of electronic wackyness going on after it's bath, but this remedy went WAY beyond just fixing the haywire components. BUT that's the only way to make the car 100% again. All that was left was the bad Carfax, which BTW, Allstate paid about $8k for reduced resale value of the car as part of the settlement.

TwinsPoppa 10-03-2012 10:18 AM

Sometimes help doesn't always come in the time-frame we would like. Some posts will be more helpful than others, welcome to the internet.

It would definitely help to know the year and model of your X.

The fuse and their amperages are listed in the fuse box in the glove compartment and cargo area.

At the top of the site, you can check the WDS under Online References.

Also, at the top, try browsing the Articles and How Tos to learn more about your X.

This might help: http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/x5/...formation.html

If you're bypassing the amp, you can try this:
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...s-amp-0-a.html

TiAgX5 10-03-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmv (Post 900268)
:thebird: Your attitute would get you lots of helps. :slap: I don't know how others can help you with problem on the vehicle that doesn't exist. You don't even know what year your car is, no wonder why your wife didn't know any better than dumping a gallon of water into the cargo well. What a match!
Instead of fixing the mistake that I point out, you choose to throw out your attitute. GL with whateverthefuck you're trying to fix and welcome to my ignored list.

I agree with this 100% but will suggest the OP open everything up in the cargo area and put floor a fan on that area for at least 24 hrs to dry up all the moisture.


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