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hippee0 12-01-2012 04:09 PM

another transmission prob
 
Hi Guys need some help with this 04 4.4
Was going on a journey today all was fine till i done a kick down to take another car there was a grone from the front pass foot well (left side)the car hit the redline then took off again.
So i drove for about another mile i had no sport mode or manual mode i stopped let the car sit for 10 min started it again and all ok
oil and filter where changed in the transmission 5000mile ago i have 105000 miles
on the car now.What i was wondering has anyone had a similar issue and what was the end result

thanks

BMWvoid 12-01-2012 04:47 PM

Shared Experience
 
I had my transmission and transfer case oil changed at 64k miles. I now have 76K miles. Most of my previous complaints regarding my transmission jerking me around disappeared after the oil change and reset. The one exception would be what you experienced. It's as if my transmission gets confused. I can almost predict when it is going to happen. It usually happens when going downhill and wanting to accelerate. For example, the freeway exit I use to go home is downhill with a sharp left turn that ends uphill at a signal. If the signal is green when I exit, I already know the car will rev up to 3500 rmp before changing gears. No very smooth.

diyanich 12-01-2012 05:03 PM

To me,your gearbox is slipping.
That should throw a code.

hippee0 12-01-2012 05:08 PM

how do you read a transmission code i have a code reader i thought bmw could only read transmission code
quick note no transafe light came on

diyanich 12-01-2012 05:20 PM

Why don't you just wait for it to act like that for a couple of times?
And then get worried and start taking action.
Once I was going with a friend and an air condition was on.X started upshifting and downshifting like crazy.I turned A/c off and it went back to normal and never repeated again.
X is full of electronics,and they are really sensitive...one thing.
gearbox has it's adaptation,and you may have confused it by an unusual pattern.
I don't know if your fluid flush is a cause,it could possibly be.But it's too soon to be worried,unless you get some other slippage and a Transfailsafe message.
These are my thoughts.I went through a rebuild and warranty rebuild after that.Shudders,slippage etc. :)

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Originally Posted by hippee0 (Post 909562)
how do you read a transmission code i have a code reader i thought bmw could only read transmission code


hippee0 12-01-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diyanich (Post 909561)
To me,your gearbox is slipping.
That should throw a code.

plugged in code reader no codes
took it for a run & it has done it again its the grone that it gives that has me worried sounds lie something is trying to lock up then it takes of like normal

diyanich 12-01-2012 06:04 PM

Get a transmission shop pull the codes.

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Originally Posted by hippee0 (Post 909570)
plugged in code reader no codes
took it for a run & it has done it again its the grone that it gives that has me worried sounds lie something is trying to lock up then it takes of like normal


sockethead 12-02-2012 01:07 AM

That noise you heard was the trans slipping/mis-shifting. You had no sport mode because the trans was in failsafe mode. Once you cycled the ignition, it went back to normal. You need a BMW GT1 to read the codes. it will probably show a mis-shift
The problem is most likely, the solenoids in the valve body are hanging up. It's a common problem that could of been exasperated by your fluid change.
If it keeps on happening, You could probably get away with replacing the valve body but if it keeps on slipping too much it will burn the clutches and you'll need a new trans.
We just went through this on our X5 a week or so ago... we had the same problem/noise start about a month or two ago. Eventually, it just got worse and worse. luckily we had a warranty that covered a remanfactured trans from BMW...

hippee0 12-03-2012 02:29 PM

:(ok just back from the transmisson shop
need recon gearbox and torque convertor £3000+
so im going for the gallon of petrol and a match option

diyanich 12-03-2012 03:16 PM

I would get a quote from a couple places and go with a most convenient option.
If I remember well,you had your fluid flushed,correct?
Probably it just shortened up the borrowed time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippee0 (Post 909798)
:(ok just back from the transmisson shop
need recon gearbox and torque convertor £3000+
so im going for the gallon of petrol and a match option


goldenbird 12-03-2012 04:26 PM

Don't be so sure about what the shop told you. I suggest you check at another shop. You didn't mention if they find an error code or not. Is there any seen damage, oil leakage in the tranny box?. What type of fluid you used when you flushed the tranny? did you top filled the tranny (topping till the fluid start to get out of the filling opening and the tranny temp is at near 50 degree). Recheck oil level. If there is a problem in the transmission you definitely will get an error code. see the code meaning. it might be related to a solenoid, valve body, incorrect shifting, torque convert fault etcccc. Don't go with the most expensive solution unless you are sure it is the right and only solution

Koody 12-03-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenbird (Post 909806)
........ Don't go with the most expensive solution unless you are sure it is the right and only solution

+1

hippee0 12-04-2012 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldenbird (Post 909806)
Don't be so sure about what the shop told you. I suggest you check at another shop. You didn't mention if they find an error code or not. Is there any seen damage, oil leakage in the tranny box?. What type of fluid you used when you flushed the tranny? did you top filled the tranny (topping till the fluid start to get out of the filling opening and the tranny temp is at near 50 degree). Recheck oil level. If there is a problem in the transmission you definitely will get an error code. see the code meaning. it might be related to a solenoid, valve body, incorrect shifting, torque convert fault etcccc. Don't go with the most expensive solution unless you are sure it is the right and only solution

Thats the thing he didnt even plug it in he took it a drive and said to needs gearbox re built
There is no visable sign of any damage
When the oil was changed everything came from bmw filter oil and gasket
i filled the tranny till it ran out of the filler hole started the car and cycled through the gears
I let the car run until it was 50 degree stopped it and topped up with another 3\4 of a litre

I think im going to have to find someone else who can check this out but being in N.Ireland they seem to be far and few

If i were going to start checking diffs'shafts'transfer case'torque converter what do i need to look for and where is the best place to start

goldenbird 12-04-2012 01:47 PM

You need to start by reading fault code or codes at an experienced and reputable shop, then the problem will be solved accordingly

hippee0 12-07-2012 10:19 AM

Ok so i went to bmw to get codes the codes are:
008d signal line disturbed
0092 gong tone (T1)
5f43 transmission control interface
4f4b gear monitoring
4f5a shift monitoring
5f3a transfer case malfunction
4f7a signal from transfer box faulty
54c6 vtg oil wear

Of course bmw say needs gear box and transfer case £6000
has anyone had these fault codes before and what do they mean & what was the outcome

Im thinking about rebuilding the transfer case my self can you buy a full kit for this ?
Or would i be better doing both?

thanks in advance

wayneadair 12-07-2012 10:44 AM

if you are in NI - go to Torquetronix, Ballymena.

This guy knows his X5's...

wayne

SlickGT1 12-07-2012 10:54 AM

Have you checked your voltage yet? Click link in my sig, unlock your OBC and monitor voltage while driving. Seems like you have quite a few different issues, which can all be caused by a bad alternator or voltage regulator.

goldenbird 12-07-2012 11:09 AM

Yes you got different codes and some are not related to tranny. I go with SlickGT1. Check battery voltage and alternator. A bad battery or alternator means the part generating those codes is not receiving a normal supply voltage. it can throws then many error codes by error.

hippee0 12-07-2012 11:54 AM

Just done voltage check it is 13.9-14 volts so it seems to be ok

Im going to rebuild the transfer case does anyone know were to get a rebuild kit in the uk for this ?

thanks


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