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fmugur 12-03-2012 11:15 PM

How much to fix this?
 
Any thoughts based on your experience? It looks like the door is also dented, not only scratched.

This is an X that I am looking to buy but I just found this big scratch...

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...r/bmw004-1.jpg

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...gur/bmw010.jpg

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SlickGT1 12-04-2012 11:45 AM

Over here, a good job will start at $250 a panel. That looks like 2 panels with exact matching paint. If your shop can't match paint, they will blend half of each door.

My friend owns a body shop, and something similar on my black Lexus cost me $600. But it was perfect, with very little bondo. As in little dots had the bondo after sanding. He worked the dents out fairly quick with hammers.

fmugur 12-04-2012 01:00 PM

Thanks Slick. I know that BMW uses galvanized metal sheet. I assume when using hammer I should expect rust eventually.
I will got today get some estimates around here. One guy mentioned about $2500 to get it fixed though...

Skyline 12-04-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by fmugur (Post 909928)
Thanks Slick. I know that BMW uses galvanized metal sheet. I assume when using hammer I should expect rust eventually.
I will got today get some estimates around here. One guy mentioned about $2500 to get it fixed though...


Properly done, rust in the repair area will NOT be a problem. Around here, I have one great body shop that charges more than double the next highest. Finding a competent body shop that does not charge an arm and a leg is very difficult. But the one I generally use now is very reasonable, and does decent work; I would readily refer a friend. So a wide varience in price is to be expected. But paying more does not assure better work, nor does paying less mean the job will be done poorly.

I would look for referrals from car-savy friends in your area, and get a few quotes. I think Slick is about right on the price; perhaps a little low. Keep in mind that to do this properly, the front fender, and rear quarter panel will have to be painted at the same time, and blended into the new color of the doors so that there is no obvious color mismatch.

SlickGT1 12-04-2012 01:37 PM

Yes, my price is most likely on the low end, again, this is my friend that owns the shop, and I haven't had the lexus in two years, and the damage was years before that.

fmugur 12-04-2012 03:56 PM

OK, thanks guys. I got another quote with life time warranty for $1500. I guess it's more expensive here because the shops got too busy with hail damages.

x5Alpine 12-05-2012 06:47 PM

That x5 doesnt happen to be at titan auto sales does it?

fmugur 12-06-2012 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by x5Alpine (Post 910189)
That x5 doesnt happen to be at titan auto sales does it?

As far as I know it's been always in Quebec and a trade in at lussier dealer. I don't know about the Titan though.

Bayerische E53 12-06-2012 12:36 AM

Like was already mentioned, to be done properly, the front fender and rear fender need to be part of the blending process. What hasn't been mentioned is that due to the fact that those dents, apart from being pretty severe, extend very close to the cut lines, the only way to get this done perfectly is to actually remove the doors so that the body shop can reshape the metal (and therefore have to use a minimal amount of bondo, if any at all). I once had similar damage on one of my cars. We had to remove the damaged door in order to straighten it properly. Unhanging and fixing one door perfectly (about 6-8 hours), plus paint, will run ya at least $600. You've got two doors to do plus blending on the front and rear fenders. If you want the job done perfectly, I'd budget $2,000 just to be on the safe side (because, trust me, while you're in there, you might find other stuff that needs fixing. For example, you might want the jambs on the doors repainted, you might want some other body imperfections repainted, you might want all the door fasteners on the doors replaced with new ones, and you might want new fasteners for your weather-stripping and maybe even new weather stripping). Not trying to scare you, I'm just speaking from experience. It's like with all cars - send it in for one thing and you've got a little laundry list going before you know it.

Oh, and one more thing, once the doors and fenders are repainted, you're going to want to have the entire car professionally polished, etc. so that you can get rid of clear-coat imperfections and make the transitions from new clear to old as seamless as possible. If you didn't do so, it would look pretty daft as you'd have perfect new paint which will stick out like a sore thumb compared to the older finish on the original paint (being that this is a Canadian car I can assure you that the original clear coat has had a pretty hard life and has lost its luster quite a bit). Budget at least $350 for this. See? It adds up!

Skyline 12-06-2012 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayerische E53 (Post 910240)
Like was already mentioned, to be done properly, the front fender and rear fender need to be part of the blending process. What hasn't been mentioned is that due to the fact that those dents, apart from being pretty severe, extend very close to the cut lines, the only way to get this done perfectly is to actually remove the doors so that the body shop can reshape the metal (and therefore have to use a minimal amount of bondo, if any at all). I once had similar damage on one of my cars. We had to remove the damaged door in order to straighten it properly. Unhanging and fixing one door perfectly (about 6-8 hours), plus paint, will run ya at least $600. You've got two doors to do plus blending on the front and rear fenders. If you want the job done perfectly, I'd budget $2,000 just to be on the safe side (because, trust me, while you're in there, you might find other stuff that needs fixing. For example, you might want the jambs on the doors repainted, you might want some other body imperfections repainted, you might want all the door fasteners on the doors replaced with new ones, and you might want new fasteners for your weather-stripping and maybe even new weather stripping). Not trying to scare you, I'm just speaking from experience. It's like with all cars - send it in for one thing and you've got a little laundry list going before you know it.

Oh, and one more thing, once the doors and fenders are repainted, you're going to want to have the entire car professionally polished, etc. so that you can get rid of clear-coat imperfections and make the transitions from new clear to old as seamless as possible. If you didn't do so, it would look pretty daft as you'd have perfect new paint which will stick out like a sore thumb compared to the older finish on the original paint (being that this is a Canadian car I can assure you that the original clear coat has had a pretty hard life and has lost its luster quite a bit). Budget at least $350 for this. See? It adds up!

I don't understand at all why the doors must come off. Can you explain why you think this is necessary? You're not talking about removing the door skin are you?


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