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LED Reverse Lights Installed
After seeing some newer vehicle's with higher lumen reverse lighting I decided the E53 needed an upgrade.
I just installed a pair of these omnidirectional LED bulbs.... http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps8be8fa61.jpg They fit in the bulb holder well and were small enough diameter to fit the opening in the reflector. Here are some stock shots before the swap http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps6ae920c6.jpg http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps14aabea0.jpg http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps5dc79e86.jpg Side By side LED VS Stock http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...psbbe3b49a.jpg All LED http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...psc1a33c94.jpg http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps885a2e98.jpg E53 Disco Style :D http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps4c3662d7.jpg They are much much brighter than stock bulbs. They look crispy and fresh and they call more attention to my SAV as I'm reversing out of parking spaces making a collision a bit less likely as well. It's a win win mod for sure! I also really like it for the light output when used with the follow me home feature. I coded my follow me home settings to trigger my LED lic plate and LED Reverse on while exiting for 90sec. and it really lights up the rear of the vehicle. One thing to mention to those of you considering the mod. Make sure to code the SAV to turn of check control on the LCM for the reverse bulbs or they will strobe on start up and possibly randomly depending on the LCM/Check Control settings. It will make the bulbs fail prematurely and attract undue attention and possibly a ticket. |
looks good. How much were they?
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Where can we buy those? Those rock!
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Thanks guys
I picked them up on Ebay For $10 |
Hit us up with the item number. I need a pair, especially with my tints.
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No error on the OBC? Definitely gotta give us the item # :)
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2X 1156 BA15S 7506 White 20 5050 SMD LED Rear Tail Turn Signal Light Bulb 12V US | eBay It's a nice upgrade for 10 bucks if u ask me. |
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I used a laptop, interface cable and special coding software to code the LCM to eliminate any errors or flashing from the check control system. Quote:
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Nice. Just ordered. How is it during the day? I'd be worried that its not as noticeable during the day.
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Eh, I have yet to find an LED that's actually brighter than a stock 7506 bulb. They LOOK brighter until you put a stock bulb in one and an LED in the other.
So I did what any sane person would do: I put 15W HIDs in my reverse lights. They are WAY brighter than the LEDs or halogens. |
I have leds as my reverse lights too. Mine are a bit different though, much much brighter. :D I'm running 25w projector leds as my reverse lights.
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They are similar design as that on the ebay link, but I'll take pictures later and post. :D |
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Here is a side by side.... Drivers side LED Passenger is stock. http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...psbbe3b49a.jpg Your HID does sound nice...I almost put them in my E39 but I remember forum members that did the retrofit complaining about melted housings and harnesses. |
Those CREE projectors look awesome
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I installed. I like! seem brighter for sure.
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When I finally get coding to turn off cold and warm bulb checks for my tails, reverse lights, turn signals, lic plate lights etc I will def pick up a set of these for reverse.
I have invisibulbs hyper white halogens now which are a nice color but def not that much lumens |
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did you have a chance to measure the lumens? |
Pics? Lumens? :iagree:
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Hi Guys...
I was down and out with a lower back injury for a few weeks there but I'm back to Bimmers now! I brought home the a light meter so I can take some readings later when it gets dark out. Now I just have to find the stock bulb I took out :) |
awesome, I was looking forward to the follow up because i'm getting cold monitoring disabled on the reverse lights in anticipation of doing this mod :)
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Well Folks the results are in and they are hard for me to believe.....
Footcandle measurements With LED Bulbs http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...psb8adfa97.jpg Eye placement directly on lens http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps7f4a40b5.jpg And the OEM Bulb Results http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps93037291.jpg I hard to believe when looking at them in person but the OEM has over twice the lights output. I realize the perceived brightness was due to the change in color temperature but I didn't think it was going to be that much of a difference. I will still keep running the LEDs because they look great and are bright enough for me but I might try a 15W HID kit in the future and see how I like that. |
Oh damn, that is some stuff. Well actually nothing that we really didn't know really. Nice that there is proof. Thanks for doing this Lexicon.
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damn.
Which stock bulbs were you using? could temp have something to do with this? These seem dim in the cold.... |
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Glad I didn't place my order for LED backup bulbs.
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how would these do in our housings, seller lists lumens on the meter in the listing too, maybe at almost 2 cm wide though they wouldnt fit through the opening?
2pc 1156 BA15S "Brightest" R5 CREE Projector Back Up Reverse SMD LED Bulbs White | eBay |
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was that me? I bought the same ones as the OP. |
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whoops i meant this guy above, pics of said LEDs? I posted these as well to see opinions on them: 2pc 1156 BA15S "Brightest" R5 CREE Projector Back Up Reverse SMD LED Bulbs White | eBay |
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Crap i didnt know you can desable the check. The whole entire front of my car Strobes upon startup. Can you do it through an autologic?
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Yes Autologic will do it. There are also several other options for the home user/enthusiast I used a program called Navcoder and an Ibus interface I built to code my LCM "Lighting Module" A search for coding will bring up several threads on the subject. |
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Yes temp could have something to do with it. It was 11 here when I took the shots and the car was not running either I used follow me home trigger. Hmmm Quote:
Although if they fit into the reflector and put out enough light to fill up that reflector and project it outwards it should look good too I'd imagine. |
meh - I'm over it. Wife was bitching last night that she couldnt see shit when backing my car out. What is the stock size, I need to go pick some up after work?
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So sorry guys!! I totally forgot about this thread! I'll take some pictures tonight or tomorrow.
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would these work? has the clear glass bulb like stock so hoping they would project "backwards" better than the bulbs the OP listed
White High Power 5W CREE Q5 XP E 1156 7506 P21W LED Reverse Back Up Light Bulbs | eBay |
I don't see why they wouldn't work. The 5W Cree should have some good light output.
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I need to measure the opening to make sure the bulbs would fit but those have the glass like stock bulbs so I'm hoping they would look good backing out.
i sent a pm to patrickkc as well who posted he has the 25w LEDs in his reverse and they are brightest on the market so i'm hoping he can get us some pics. right now i have stealth coated ultra white bulbs, so the combo of the silver coating and the blue coating to give the ultra white bulbs makes them uber dim compared to stock. those LEDs you originally had probably give off more light! |
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I'm thinking those 25W Projectors are gonna be very bright and nice. I do hope he posts up pics too. I know what you mean about the stealth bulbs diminishing the light output. Any time you coat that glass its going to cut down that lumen output. |
Hey guys, sorry for taking so long to post about the led reverse lights I have.
I checked them again and they're actually 20w, and not 25w. There are 25w ones now but I haven't ordered any to test yet. So before I was running the 20W projector leds, I was running 7.5w projector leds. These projector leds don't really work too well with our X, because of the bulb placement. Unlike other cars, our bulbs are actually side ways, and as some of you have researched already, the proectors are at the end of the LED, which in our case, shoots the light diagonally instead of shinning out of the housing. First the 7.5w projector LEDs, http://imageshack.us/a/img163/3251/k...dttybq6kmz.jpg These are bright, because they have led light coming out from the side as well. They are different than traditional projector leds, which only shine light out from the top. These work quite well, but because of the yellowish light the stock bulbs emit, I do believe the stock bulbs light up more. The 20w projector LEDS are pretty much the same design. http://imageshack.us/a/img19/6563/img5045dv.jpg except, it uses cree led on the side as well. This is supposedly brighter, but to be honest, I don't see too much of a difference compared to the 7.5w projector led. It's a shame that our light bulbs has to be put in sideways, or else having projector leds will be definitely much brighter than the conventional halogen bulb. Here are some pictures i just took. I will try to have some better pictures this week and try to answer most of the questions. I'm sick and medication is making me insanely drowsy. Crappy photos off iPhone.. it's snowing and -15 weather also http://imageshack.us/a/img802/5824/img5037m.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img152/4884/img5039y.jpg also, all the lights at the back are 7.5w Projector LEDs (brake, turn signals, rear drl). |
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Patrick thanks for the pics, those look great! I'm going on ebay to see what I can find, and also waiting for Lexicon at his convenience to measure the opening with a micrometer, I might be the guy who tests the 25w ones out or at least getting the same kind you have. |
no problem Ricky. If you do try the 25w, please post pictures. There are newer versions of the projector leds which also have projectors on the side as well. If we can have the projector pointing straight after we screw in the bulb, that will allow more light to shine straight out of the housing..
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was thinking about these White High Power 5W CREE Q5 XP E 1156 7506 P21W LED Reverse Back Up Light Bulbs | eBay since they have the clear glass to emit light 360 degrees like a stock bulb, but now I also may just get the Version 2 of the solaris invisibulbs which are supposed to be 2x brighter than what I have now. not sure as of yet. |
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Thanks for posting up those picks Patrick they look nice and bright.
It looks like an effective design for this application for the diodes on all 5 sides so it can fill that reflector with light instead of just one diode sending the light output in one direction only. "This may be something to consider Ricky. That's why I went with an omni directional option with Diodes on 5 sides." Here are the measurements you were looking for.. http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps45ae2f53.jpg Or if you prefer Metric http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps38b73052.jpg |
great measurements guys! most of the bulbs i have seen are just under 1 inch diameter so they should work quite nicely. I want to find ones like I posted above with the clear "bulb" surrounding the cree diode, but those diodes need to be positioned higher and facing outward as well as upward.
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hmmmm I may try out these for 32 bucks from China, the diodes are "up" in the housing more, with the glass bulb, 4 chips totaling 20w. Sounds promising but I always get turns in my stomach when seeing the Chinese sellers negative feedbacks lol.
2 x 20W CREE Q5 White Car 1156 BA15S High Power Turn Signal LED Light Glass Bulb | eBay I'll update if I get a set and definitely would post pics, if I get them from China they are probably going to take a few weeks. Then again, I may just update my Solaris Invisibulbs from Bimmian to their new ultrabright version which is supposed to be 2x brighter than what I have now, would solve all my problems and save the questions about all these LEDs. I guess the definitive question here is WILL ANY OF THESE LED's be brighter than a standard halogen bulb with chrome invisibulb coating? PM'ed patrickkc to see if I could buy one of his 25w sets, I'd like to do a side by side comparison of my Solaris bulbs in the reverse now and one of his bulbs he posted up higher. I looked on ebay but couldn't find the type he has! |
guys i just ordered these on ebay (patrickkc thanks for the offer on yours but i wanted to try something newer)
1156 25 Watt Extreme HID White CREE LED Reverse Back Up Light Bulbs BA15S S25 | eBay Like the ones shown above but instead of 4 cree LEDs on the side, this has 8. i'm hoping it throws even more light towards the rear. When I got my car coded I realized that my current reverse lights, xenon white Invisibulbs from Bimmian with the blue coating and the chrome coating on top aren't bright enough for me, but the invisible look is cleaner on the rear. When I get these in I will take daytime pics side by side so you can see comparisons. Does anyone want my chrome invisibulbs? If not i'll just toss them... |
Glad you're finally trying out the 25W leds! Please let us know how you like them!
I got new LEDs coming too, Supposedly the newest/brightest to date.. 50W LEDs.. :D Will update when I get them and install. ;) Quote:
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gosh you just keep on one upping me haha! i'll post my 25w LED's when they arrive, looking forward to seeing your 50w ! :wow: |
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They are delivered today I will try and get some pics up later tonight, I especially want to do a comparison shop of the 1 side with 25w LED and the other side with current Solaris Invisibulb from Bimmian! |
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dead thread bump.
Anyone tried these suckers yet? 2X White 1156 BA15S 60W CREE LED High Power Backup LED Turn Brake Lights Bulb | eBay |
remember, the bulbs go in sideways, so the LED has to emit a LOT of light from the sides.
Even though the reflector will spread out the tip of the bulb's light, it may not produce enough usable Lumens on the road. |
remember, the bulbs go in sideways, so the LED has to emit a LOT of light from the sides.
Even though the reflector will spread out the tip of the bulb's light, it may not produce enough usable Lumens on the road. |
I was playing around online looking at 7506 bulb options.
seems there is a 3497 that honda uses which is a bit brighter and the big daddy seems to be a 796 cribbed from an AUDI site BACK UP LIGHT OEM 7506 12V 1.75A 21W 35cp 150hr UPGRADE 3497 12V 2.1A 25.2W 45cp 600hr UPGRADE 1295 12.5V 3A 37.5W 50cp 200hr UPGRADE 796 12.8v 2.73a 35w 62cp 300hr The reverse lights have several options but again the 75xx-series are a higher-spec European bulb that are already very good. The single-filament counterpart to the dual-filament 3496 is the 3497, again available from Honda by ordering part 34903-SF1-A01 for about $6. It's a krypton bulb with very long life. Again we can use the 1295 (clear) bulb for reverse lights but the very high wattage and amperage doesn't seem worth it when you only get an extra 5cp. The ultimate back up light is the halogen-filled 796. For roughly the same power draw and heat as the 1295, we get 62cp, nearly doubling the standard 7506. Running the bulb for short periods shouldn't be a concern in terms of the heat generated. Avoid the cheap 50w halogen lights at auto parts stores Given the issues with the wiring in our tails, this may be a foolish idea, but thought I would share what I found |
Jgold, those look similar to mine and mine are bright as shit.
I'll try to upload a pic later but I have no complaints with mine, as long as there is Cree up top and about 8 Cree around the perimeter pushing light laterally you should be pleased with them. I paid 40 bucks for mine and even though they were canbus bulbs I turned off cold monitoring so they don't flicker at startup, similar to what I had to do on my LED tails |
I would like my back up lights to be brighter but am not interested doing any coding. Is there a most recommended bulb here that doesn't do crazy stuff or throw errors?
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sounds like the 796 style bulb, sold in Honda's, is a great option (according to those specs). may look into that.
I too do not have an INPA/software so turning off cold monitoring would be great for my LED's and HID fogs (if I put them in again) but alas, its not what I have access to. Does anyone know where to buy these 796 bulbs? |
just to be clear, the 796 is not a honda bulb. The one above it is. If I'm out and about tomorrow, I may try to grab one.
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Bc, if you don't use led bulb you won't need to code off cold monitoring.
Perhaps going from a 21w to a 25w bulb would be brighter? |
Here's the link to the original post
So you want brighter lights. [Archive] - Audizine Forums Google images of those bulbs - especially the 3497... Its got a more oblong shape that may be better in our housings. I 'll look for dimensions. |
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Could always go with brand name....I know for sure Bimmian sells one. Perhaps ECS too |
I've got 3496 in hand. Will do side x side once sun goes down.
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What would get me as close to double as possible? |
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Has anyone tried these?
https://bimmian.com/WeissLicht-LED-R...for-BMW-E53-X5 A tad bit overpriced, but they claim more light output than OEM. They also use a reflector to help increase output and the LED is on the side rather than top. |
^^^^^^^Those don't look to bad at all.
Since I posted this thread I have switched to 15W HID kit in my reverse. CRAZY BRIGHT I coded them on for my follow me home lighting and they light up my whole garage when the door is closed |
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On another note I did the led license plate light kit for my BMW E39 M5 and I had problems with getting the right side module to consistently work. I tried two sets and after that I abandoned using them. I got a set of replacement led bulbs from superbright Leds and these have performed well. So long story short the Bimmian for the Spektrum leds is great but some of the other leds that they market beware. |
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Alright, looks like I might go with the Spektrums from Bimmian. Not feeling too confident with the 15W HIDs...
I'll post some pictures when they get installed. They also have a lifetime warranty..? Interesting. |
Super Super Bright!
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[QUOTE=hunds02;1055964]So here they are! A lot brighter indeed! No errors, BUT there is the flickering during cold start (same as my angel eyes). I really wish there was someone who can code my car in Ohio.
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Those are a lot brighter! I need to get me a set of those. I have the software and computer to code our X5, but am not sure if you travel around the Dayton area a lot. If you do, let me know and I would gladly code it for you. |
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Hunds02,
I got your message. Here is a link to a great post about what else you can code. http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ot-forget.html |
Yep, I was going through that this week. Thanks for the heads up
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I coded the car to stop the flickering as well as other tweaks. See post #87 on this thread:
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ml#post1056396 I would definitely buy these lights. I can see everything behind me and the color temp is perfect. |
I just purchased these from amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...0?ie=UTF8&th=1 Will update as I install them. |
Did you guys have to add resistors or turn off cold/hot check?
Mine doesn't even turn on, when I put it into reverse all it does is flash (or flicking faintly) and after two or three faint flickers it just stays off, nothing happens. |
I bought these and they worked straight away. I did turn off the cold check to keep them from flickering for a couple of seconds when the ignition was first turned on. A huge difference in brightness from the stock incandescent bulbs.
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UfAAA...0-g/s-l640.jpg |
Ok I will try to turn off "cold" monitoring and see what happens.
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When I changed to LEDs I had no problems. I did nothing other than buy LEDs that said they would not generate any errors. When I added angel eyes I connected them to the interior lights and the ignition, work fine. Have worked fine for several years. I recall getting recommendations here. Have you used the search function to find the LED and angel eye threads?
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Yeah I looked a several and decided to comment on this one. I don't get BC error that bulb is out. Just doesn't turn on at all.
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So I decided to check but it was working? Maybe before when I first installed it I didn't have the instrument cluster in the car (was out for repairs).
But anyhow, the one I purchased from Amazon works, bright as hell, and no errors! |
That looks nice! Do they have specific color temperature? And did you code it yourself?
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No specific temp mentioned by the seller, but it's pure white without any hit of blue. Yes I coded it myself to turn off "cold" monitoring with PA Soft 1.4
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I put the brightest LEDs I could find in my reverse light sockets but still found myself wanting for a lot more. I know the design is for others to know that the vehicle is in Reverse gear but I wanted to get some light for my dark driveway that I have to back into.
This worked out to be a perfect fit under the rear bumper and nestled perfectly in the plastic under facia and throws a ton of light to the rear which can be helpful when you have tinted rear glass. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TC-X...47624c4dKODk1z https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/c7...=w1196-h897-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sR...=w1196-h897-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WL...=w1196-h897-no :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: Mike |
I just put these in & they worked great, no errors & very bright!
https://www.amazon.com/LUYED-Extreme.../dp/B01H54SP6O |
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