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cuban_bmwx5 01-10-2013 11:49 PM

was i ripped off
 
hello let me try to make this fast i needed to change the fan clutch on my x5 so i searched the part number on realoem.com i got the part number and ordered the part when i went to put it in it was to big it didnt fit in the fan so i took the part number off of the one i have and re ordered it and sent the other one back but then i typed in the part number of the one i have on realoem and it shows that the part number is for a 7 series now what i wanna know is it possible that the guy that sold me the x5 replace the motor and not told me?

nebilex 01-11-2013 12:12 AM

Need your car info, year, engine size etc...

JCL 01-11-2013 12:17 AM

Not likely.

It is more likely that your look-up skills or your parts source's transcription skills failed you. Where did you buy it from?

upallnight 01-11-2013 12:34 AM

Was the PO the original owner of the X? Did you get a carfax before buying the car? I would say that you got rip off if you brought a V8 and the engine in the car was a 6.

cuban_bmwx5 01-11-2013 12:35 AM

2001 bmw x5 4.4 last 7 number of vin LH06784

cuban_bmwx5 01-11-2013 12:35 AM

i bought it from an old man private sale he said the x was sitting in the cottage for like 5 yrs

cuban_bmwx5 01-11-2013 12:36 AM

so i don't think it was my look up skills

cuban_bmwx5 01-11-2013 12:37 AM

well the old man i bought it from said he was original owner..and that was my mistake not getting a carfax.. and if it was a v6 that would suck but i know it is a V8 100%

JCL 01-11-2013 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cuban_bmwx5 (Post 915960)
so i don't think it was my look up skills

Your serial number is listed as a 2000 model, not a 2001.

The fan clutch is listed as requiring a matching fan. Did you order the matching fan? Perhaps it was changed up in the parts system, and has a different bore but the same outside diameter.

cuban_bmwx5 01-11-2013 11:43 AM

yeah it was made 04/2000 came out for 2001 model .. and well the fan broke on me so the shop ordered the fan but not the fan clutch he told me to order it my self and then he would put it in

upallnight 01-11-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cuban_bmwx5 (Post 915961)
well the old man i bought it from said he was original owner..and that was my mistake not getting a carfax.. and if it was a v6 that would suck but i know it is a V8 100%

By 6 I'm referring to the inline 6 that was also in the X5. BMW never came out with a V6. I would still run a car fax to see if perhaps the car was in an accident and had front end work done on it.

cuban_bmwx5 01-11-2013 12:23 PM

yeah i been thinking about getting a carfax even tho i have this x5 for 2yrs now lol

killcrap 01-12-2013 08:54 PM

how about you tell us what part numbers you ordered, and what part numbers were re-ordered, and what part number was on the original fan clutch?

diyanich 01-12-2013 09:34 PM

:iagree:

P.s. It's nice to see killcrap active again :)
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Originally Posted by killcrap (Post 916347)
how about you tell us what part numbers you ordered, and what part numbers were re-ordered, and what part number was on the original fan clutch?


cuban_bmwx5 01-12-2013 10:56 PM

well i typed in my vin number on both realoem. com and bmwfans.info and the part number they both gave me was 17 41 7 505 109 but then when we took out my old one my old one part number was 11 52 7 500 339 so i sent the other one back and got that one

killcrap 01-13-2013 12:01 AM

You were not ripped off. Your previous owner may have installed or paid another shop to replace the fan clutch. The previous owner may have purchased a used fan clutch with fan on the internet, local sale, or ebay, junk yark, whatever.. Or the shop he used installed the wrong fan clutch/fan, or had a E38 fan clutch on the shelf, and couldnt sell it, so he used in on the car. I dont understand how this would even been remotely considered as being ripped off, as you did not pay them, or the owner to do this, because you purchased the vehicle as-is most likely. What you need to do is replace the fan blade and fan clutch because you had the incorrect ones installed.

cuban_bmwx5 01-13-2013 01:39 AM

that is if thats the case but i dont know maybe he replaced the motor and didnt tell me because he did tell me it was an original motor.. so i would considr that being ripped off.. but i dont know unless i get the car fax and see but what you think can be right to i wont know

Sylvan Lake V35 01-13-2013 02:38 AM

you bought it and owned it for 2years and you never noticed it was an inline 6 instead of a V8 :rofl: the old man pulling a fast one on you reminds me of the scene in dumb and dumber where the old lady takes all of Lloyd's stuff from him :bustingup

killcrap 01-13-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cuban_bmwx5 (Post 916374)
that is if thats the case but i dont know maybe he replaced the motor and didnt tell me because he did tell me it was an original motor.. so i would considr that being ripped off.. but i dont know unless i get the car fax and see but what you think can be right to i wont know

how is a carfax going to tell you if the motor was replaced? Carfax will not have a complete record of every single repair. Having a motor replaced is not being ripped off. Telling you that the motor is original, and never been replaced is also not considered being ripped off. You have nothing that proves any of this at all. Why dont you get the serial number off the engine, and I can tell you if its the original one that came with the car.

upallnight 01-13-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35 (Post 916377)
you bought it and owned it for 2years and you never noticed it was an inline 6 instead of a V8 :rofl: the old man pulling a fast one on you reminds me of the scene in dumb and dumber where the old lady takes all of Lloyd's stuff from him :bustingup

He has a V8, not the in line 6. Since BMW is very good at putting Vehicle Identification label all over the car, I would think that you could get the serial number off the engine and ask BMW what car was the engine installed in.

diyanich 01-13-2013 11:24 AM

Killcrap,
Where is the # located ?


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Originally Posted by killcrap (Post 916420)
how is a carfax going to tell you if the motor was replaced? Carfax will not have a complete record of every single repair. Having a motor replaced is not being ripped off. Telling you that the motor is original, and never been replaced is also not considered being ripped off. You have nothing that proves any of this at all. Why dont you get the serial number off the engine, and I can tell you if its the original one that came with the car.


cuban_bmwx5 01-13-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35 (Post 916377)
you bought it and owned it for 2years and you never noticed it was an inline 6 instead of a V8 :rofl: the old man pulling a fast one on you reminds me of the scene in dumb and dumber where the old lady takes all of Lloyd's stuff from him :bustingup

no it is a V8 im 100% sure about that and if the motor was replaced it was replaced with a 7 series motor they are all V8 also so i didnt get f'd over with a 6 cylinder motor

cuban_bmwx5 01-13-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killcrap (Post 916420)
how is a carfax going to tell you if the motor was replaced? Carfax will not have a complete record of every single repair. Having a motor replaced is not being ripped off. Telling you that the motor is original, and never been replaced is also not considered being ripped off. You have nothing that proves any of this at all. Why dont you get the serial number off the engine, and I can tell you if its the original one that came with the car.


where can i find the serial number for the motor killcrap?

jcp240z 01-13-2013 02:49 PM

I had the same issue. They upgraded the clutches which needed a different fan blade. I would also order new screws for the fan / clutch assembly since your original ones are a different head size.
See this thread
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...conundrum.html

killcrap 01-13-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cuban_bmwx5 (Post 916452)
no it is a V8 im 100% sure about that and if the motor was replaced it was replaced with a 7 series motor they are all V8 also so i didnt get f'd over with a 6 cylinder motor


Yea they may be all V8's however that doesnt mean it will work. Did you know that the 540i and 740i 4.4 M62tu is not a plug and play direct replacement engine for an X5. Extensive modificiation would needed to drill out motor mount brackets holes, and a complete retrofit of the internal crankcase ventilation system to external one would need to be performed.

killcrap 01-13-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cuban_bmwx5 (Post 916453)
where can i find the serial number for the motor killcrap?

somewhere on the engine.

cuban_bmwx5 01-13-2013 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killcrap (Post 916525)
Yea they may be all V8's however that doesnt mean it will work. Did you know that the 540i and 740i 4.4 M62tu is not a plug and play direct replacement engine for an X5. Extensive modificiation would needed to drill out motor mount brackets holes, and a complete retrofit of the internal crankcase ventilation system to external one would need to be performed.


well then i guees the old man didnt waste money to do all that atleast i wouldnt think he would lol but whatever i just wanted to know if that could happen and if maybe it happen to me but i guess it might be original motor with the wrong fan and fan clutch:dunno:

jcp240z 01-14-2013 12:24 AM

It's not the wrong fan and clutch, just the original fan and clutch. They revised it later and call for an updated fan and clutch due to problems they had with the original one. I just wish that in real oem it had indicated better the old part was superceded.

cuban_bmwx5 01-14-2013 12:18 PM

oh really is that the case well that's better to hear .. so then should i change the fan and the fan clutch to the new parts?

jcp240z 01-14-2013 01:59 PM

If you already have everything replaced would not change it again. My original lasted 100,000m.

cuban_bmwx5 01-14-2013 02:31 PM

ok then i guess no point in changing it then lol but thanks for letting me know


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