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X5SHARMA 01-26-2013 09:14 PM

Hidden Switch
 
Whats up guys im back with another question which might be common but I cant find it in the manual either.

There is a switch next to the drivers side wall next to the accelerator. A small black toggle switch in the carpet with nothing written on it or around it.

Any idea what this is for?:dunno:

TerminatorX5 01-26-2013 09:17 PM

sounds like an aftermarket self-destruction button... lol...

picture??

upallnight 01-26-2013 09:18 PM

Could be an aftermarket accessory that the PO had installed on the truck. Maybe a hidden radar detector, or auxilliary lights.

Qsilver7 01-26-2013 09:25 PM

If you can't find mention of it in the owners manual...then 99% chance that it is something a PO installed.

Also, if you can't find "any mention of it" and you can't figure out what it is plus...having the advantage of actually being able to physically see it...you'd have a better chance of us helping to help you better if you TOOK A PICTURE and uploaded it with your question.

A pic speaks a thousand words. :) You never know...an image of what's been vaguely described as a non-descript switch might "toggle" a memory in someones mind that they may have seen on someone else's vehicle...if not their own. :)

X5SHARMA 01-26-2013 09:38 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Here we go just took pics

Again this is by the accelerator

:dunno::dunno:

X5SND 01-26-2013 09:56 PM

+1 to the self-destruct theory :p.
Is there any aftermarket stuff (lights/audio) gear you could think of in your X?

TerminatorX5 01-26-2013 10:00 PM

definetely not OE... pull the panel, re-trace the wires... see where it connects to...

X5SHARMA 01-26-2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5SND (Post 919109)
+1 to the self-destruct theory :p.
Is there any aftermarket stuff (lights/audio) gear you could think of in your X?

Self destruct could come in handy if someone attempts to steal it :D

nothing aftermarket in the truck but I am wondering if that may have been connected to an aftermarket amp for power since you suggested audio. I see no connections in the front under the hood but the connections may be direct from the battery. I do see that there are connections for a stock sub which is not there and possibly removed by previous owner. This ones going to be a little mystery till I can figure out where this switch is connecting to.

Everything is stock but I may have to open up the trunk and get to the battery to see if there are any connections directly hooked up there. I don't see any other logical reason for it. Any suggestions on where I should begin to look?

hoaesq 01-26-2013 10:15 PM

Could be a manual kill switch. Switch it on and try to start the car. If the X just cranks over without starting then you've found it's purpose.

I had installed a kill switch on my 84' and 86' Mustang SVO back in the day. Talk about an easy car to steal . . .

Qsilver7 01-26-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by X5SHARMA (Post 919114)
...Any suggestions on where I should begin to look?

Have you removed the panel that the switch is attached to, yet? It could give you a hint as to which direction to head to look for what it was attached to (engine or trunk area).

It looks like the switch is attached to panel #7 (see diagram below)...and that panel is secured with hardware (#8) which you can also see in the diagram below for an indication of what it looks like...and how the panel is fitted to the tranny tunnel/center console:


davintosh 01-26-2013 11:47 PM

Ejection seat. ;)

upallnight 01-27-2013 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by davintosh (Post 919133)
Ejection seat. ;)

Naww, that button / switch is located under the shift lever like James Bond DB5 Aston Martin in Goldfinger. :popcorn:

Does your car have an eye pod dock and cd changer? Could be the switch to select which device to be used.

X5SHARMA 01-27-2013 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by davintosh (Post 919133)
Ejection seat. ;)

Lol

I wish it was that upgraded.

It's not the engine kill switch because the engine went on no problem with the switch up or down. To answer the other question for upallnight i don't have a cd changer nor an iPod connection so that would not be an option.

Still a mystery...

Once it gets a little warmer ill be able to get into it to see where the wiring is headed. If its an amp then It will definitely save me time when upgrading the system. I saw some nasty reviews for hualingan so the best bet right now is the dynavin. Anyhow I don't know what was hooked up to this to require a switch so inconspicuous and the job was done quite well, atleast until I can see the rest of it.

TerminatorX5 01-27-2013 03:15 AM

factory option

S907A



http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-my-dream.html




just kidding :)

nezarnuaimat 01-27-2013 02:50 PM

Some people use such switch to cut the current to ignition. This is like an anti-theft switch. If your key get stolen then he won't be able to switch on the car without pressing this switch ...

grenhall 01-27-2013 03:17 PM

I had a switch like that in my Volvo XC70. My switch was an override to be able to watch TV while driving. Could it be something like that?

X5SHARMA 01-27-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nezarnuaimat (Post 919198)
Some people use such switch to cut the current to ignition. This is like an anti-theft switch. If your key get stolen then he won't be able to switch on the car without pressing this switch ...

Checked the car on and off no difference with engine. Locked it then got back in with switch pressed it had no problem with engine going on.

Terminator: I want some of those features!

Grenhall: I don't have a navigation nor tvs (yet) so ruling that out

Qsilver7 01-27-2013 07:15 PM

Just an FYI (since it's been mentioned several times now) :)

A "kill switch" would be redundant...and even less effective than what's already built-in to the car's OBC. Our vehicles have a "CODE" feature where you can enter any numerical digit between 0000-9999 which extends the EWS (immobilizing) feature to someone that has a key to the car...preventing them from being able to start the car if they don't know the "code" that was entered by you.

After 3 failed attempts...they will be presented with a "light & sound" show (the lights flash & the alarm siren goes off)....plus again, the car will not start.

This feature is built into both OBC set ups...either thru the MID or thru the Nav monitor. To initiate the "CODE"...the ignition MUST be in position 1...on both the MID & the Nav screen...this will highlight the word "CODE" (nav screen) or it will appear on the far right of the MID...and allow you to initiate entering the numerical number of your choice.

So installing a kill switch that may be known or found by someone who has access to your car keys (like a delinquent teenager or angry soon-to-be significant other)...the OBC code is more difficult to overcome unless you use a numerical "code" that they can easily figure out.

If you use this feature please DON'T FORGET THE CODE YOU ENTERED...if you do, you'll be back begging for info on how to get your car started. That's because there is no "static" code number...but is created by you at the time of entering it...so if you can't remember what you put in...you're going to be stuck until you do remember it. ;)

For those with the MID:

http://www.bimmerboard.com/members/q...with%20MID.jpg

(you can see the words CODE & SET on the far right of this MID in my e39 540iT below...press the CODE button to begin entering the "kill start" for those who have a key to your car)
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0009_large.jpg


(Nav screen with the CODE feature highlighted for possible selection...again, the ignition MUST be in position 1 to initiate the CODE)
http://www.bimmerboard.com/members/q...0displayed.JPG

TerminatorX5 01-27-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qsilver7 (Post 919242)
Just an FYI (since it's been mentioned several times now) :)

A "kill switch" would be redundant...and even less effective than what's already built-in to the car's OBC. Our vehicles have a "CODE" feature where you can enter any numerical digit between 0000-9999 which extends the EWS (immobilizing) feature to someone that has a key to the car...preventing them from being able to start the car if they don't know the "code" that was entered by you.

After 3 failed attempts...they will be presented with a "light & sound" show (the lights flash & the alarm siren goes off)....plus again, the car will not start.

This feature is built into both OBC set ups...either thru the MID or thru the Nav monitor. To initiate the "CODE"...the ignition MUST be in position 1...on both the MID & the Nav screen...this will highlight the word "CODE" (nav screen) or it will appear on the far right of the MID...and allow you to initiate entering the numerical number of your choice.

So installing a kill switch that may be known or found by someone who has access to your car keys (like a delinquent teenager or angry soon-to-be significant other)...the OBC code is more difficult to overcome unless you use a numerical "code" that they can easily figure out.

If you use this feature please DON'T FORGET THE CODE YOU ENTERED...if you do, you'll be back begging for info on how to get your car started. :nono That's because there is no "static" code number...but is created by you at the time of entering it...so if you can't remember what you put in...you're going to be stuck until you do remember it. ;)

For those with the MID:


(you can see the words CODE & SET on the far right of this MID in my e39 540iT below...press the CODE button to begin entering the "kill start" for those who have a key to your car)
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0009_large.jpg


(Nav screen with the CODE feature highlighted for possible selection...again, the ignition MUST be in position 1 to initiate the CODE)



totally agree :iagree:

i use code when i park a car in an area which does not look "clean" - say, filling up gas, i set up a code, as i don't want someone just walk up and drive off... i would just hand the keys off, and run, and let the crook figure out that the he got a brick, while i am dialing the cops... of course, if the kids are not in the car - then i'd stand my ground...

looking at the picture of the monitor, it seems that the word TV on mine is spelled fully - TELEVISION... is that due to english?

Also, what is Vi+ at the bottom line of the screen? what does stand for?

Qsilver7 01-27-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 919244)
... i would just hand the keys off, and run, and let the crook figure out that the he got a brick, while i am dialing the cops...

:bustingup:bustingup:bustingup OMG...that's a good one...but probably the best thing to do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 919244)
1. looking at the picture of the monitor, it seems that the word TV on mine is spelled fully - TELEVISION... is that due to english?

2. Also, what is Vi+ at the bottom line of the screen? what does stand for?

Yes, the spelling of the words on the nav screen are different...this picture is from an e38 forum member that lives in the Netherlands...and this member also has upgraded the nav software so I'm not sure what the Vi+ stands for.

TerminatorX5 01-27-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qsilver7 (Post 919261)
:bustingup:bustingup:bustingup OMG...that's a good one...but probably the best thing to do.



i am working for a law enforcerment agency but our main goal is slightly different of the cops or other similar entities - their mission is to engage the "enemy" and bring them to justice, either on the "spot" or through legal system... ours is - to protect the person and information in our custody at any cost, even if that means that we flee... once the principal is safe, then we might help the other guys engaging the "enemy"...

So, even our driving school techniques are different from the cops, they will hook you, spin you to catch you, we will do a j-turn, knock a roadblock off the road and drive away as crazy...


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