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Xman13 06-03-2013 10:09 PM

Locked out! UCrewX5 Help
 
Hello all, I had my kids playing in the car while I checked fluids. They got out and left the key inside locked the doors and shut them. I just bought it over the weekend and dont have a spare yet.Jeff or UCrewX5 has been mentioned in articles all over the internet on how to avoid breaking window. I PMed but no ans yet. Anyone else have a suggestion??

knucklebuster 06-03-2013 10:35 PM

Any chance a slim jim would work ? I would try the right rear door just in chance any damage

Quicksilver 06-03-2013 10:48 PM

Your first post and no hello or any kind of greeting and your expecting this kind of help???? Hmmmm

Xman13 06-03-2013 11:05 PM

Quicksilver, my first post says HELLO ALL. Any words of advice? With over 16k posts I would think you would know pretty much all about the X5. I have been trying to post for 3 days now but was not cleared yet.

TerminatorX5 06-03-2013 11:37 PM

you should try a local locksmith - they should be able to help you out. worst case scenario, a busted glass is not really that bad, just decide which glass you want to replace...

what do you drive?

Xman13 06-03-2013 11:40 PM

I have read that most locksmiths cannot get in. I also was told the small rear window cheapest. I read slim jim impossible. I am waiting for UCrewx5 to PM me with instructions on a way without breaking a window.
I also read about drilling thru the rear hatch behind the back up lights but when I removed them it wasnt clear enough on where to drill.

TerminatorX5 06-03-2013 11:53 PM

i don't think Ucrew or anyone with a slightest knowledge will take a chance to divulge this information even over a PM to an unidentified person. I understand that you may have a valid, pressing need to get into your vehicle but this is a public forum open to all members of the worldwide society with all backgrounds... as such, we will gladly discuss your tire options or choice of gasoline brand but nobody will risk a liability and provide you, or any other other member of a new standing with info on entering into the car without a key...


think of the key as a password to your car - when you lose a password to your AOL account, in order to get back you must verify your identity before a company employee who has a service access... same here...

try a locksmith... call AAA if you have the membership... you will have much quicker response there...

1naztyx5 06-03-2013 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xman13 (Post 939385)
I have read that most locksmiths cannot get in. I also was told the small rear window cheapest. I read slim jim impossible. I am waiting for UCrewx5 to PM me with instructions on a way without breaking a window.
I also read about drilling thru the rear hatch behind the back up lights but when I removed them it wasnt clear enough on where to drill.


everything he just said^^^^^ plus

if you are referring to the small window passed the actual rear window, thats actually the most expensive ive been told, not due to the actual part but the labor needed to get it in.

Quicksilver 06-04-2013 10:10 AM

I believe everyone else summed it up nicely. Try AAA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xman13 (Post 939376)
Quicksilver, my first post says HELLO ALL. Any words of advice? With over 16k posts I would think you would know pretty much all about the X5. I have been trying to post for 3 days now but was not cleared yet.


mrbmwx5 06-04-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pnoyako85 (Post 939444)
Here you go......u can't really Slim Jim it....what you do is get an Aluminum Flat Rod to push the handle out and door handle creates a gap to grab onto door handle and pull it.....BOOM! you done!.

Oh no .. Now we have tons of kids running around open the X5s all over the streets .. Lol

Qsilver7 06-04-2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbmwx5 (Post 939446)
Oh no .. Now we have tons of kids running around open the X5s all over the streets .. Lol
Quote:

Originally Posted by pnoyako85
Here you go......u can't really Slim Jim it....what you do is get an Aluminum Flat Rod to push the handle out and door handle creates a gap to grab onto door handle and pull it.....BOOM! you done!.


This works only if the BMW is single-locked...which sounds like what the kids may have done.

The only scenario I can think of where you can lock the keys inside the cabin..requires that all the doors are locked manually (or the central locking button is used while the driver's door is closed)...then one exits from one of the doors other than the driver's door and it is then manually locked. This means that the vehicle is single-locked and all is required is two pulls of the interior door handles to open a door.

If the vehicle is locked with the key (remotely or manually)...then the vehicle is double-locked...and the interior door handles won't open the doors with only the "normal" two pulls of the handle.

Much sympathy to anyone who goes through this...but again, it is another reminder to those that only possess one key as to NOT be cavalier with how you use your key, where it's located and to make sure that it is ALWAYS on your person at all times and not inside the vehicle if there's ANY possibility of it being locked inside.

Or at least be cognizant that the key is inside the vehicle and to make sure NO ONE locks the key inside the car by giving yourself access so in case you go against rule #1 (always keep the key on your person/pocket/purse outside of the vehicle):
  • rolling down a window or
  • unlocking all the doors even when entering thru the tailgate (so in case you do set the key down and close the tailgate...you can still press the release pad, or go inside the cabin and press the remote tailgate release button

UCrewX5 06-04-2013 12:39 PM

PM was sent to the OP this morning.

Xman13 06-04-2013 02:07 PM

OK thanks to some of you who actually helped. next time someone asks for help on a forum I hope you think twice about making jokes and just saying no. I finally did it my own way or a variation of what UCrewX5 pm'ed me about. If anyone else ever needs help unlocking their X5 let ME know.

Quicksilver 06-04-2013 02:56 PM

We understand your frustration, however the information you requested was not
mine to give. (I honestly don't know the process) and apparently its not public knowledge either.
That being the case many will be reluctant to provide information ever more so to someone they don't know.

The person you requested the information from came thru and that's great
But be careful who you decide to give it to. If you noticed there is a reason
why people are reluctant to provide easy access to their vehicles.

Now go out and get a spare key or a wallet key.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Xman13 (Post 939480)
OK thanks to some of you who actually helped. next time someone asks for help on a forum I hope you think twice about making jokes and just saying no. I finally did it my own way or a variation of what UCrewX5 pm'ed me about. If anyone else ever needs help unlocking their X5 let ME know.


bcredliner 06-04-2013 03:00 PM

I hope you didn't have to damage your X. What year and model is it and how many miles? Hope you are not discouraged about participating in the forum. FYI, depending on some variables there are other ways to open your X.

TerminatorX5 06-04-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xman13 (Post 939480)
OK thanks to some of you who actually helped. next time someone asks for help on a forum I hope you think twice about making jokes and just saying no. I finally did it my own way or a variation of what UCrewX5 pm'ed me about. If anyone else ever needs help unlocking their X5 let ME know.


we always make jokes, as we are here for the friendship, and friends always joke with each other... we will welcome you too as a friend but we did not and still do not know you - and this is not the number of the posts next to your name - we have newer members that have come to us from other boards where they are active and they bring their "credit of trust" with them... ask upallnight... without "knowing" you from your posts, problems that you asked about, solutions that you posted, we are rather reluctant to post a potentially damaging information, even through a PM... UCrew came through, it is on him, he has been around for long time, hopefully he knows what he is doing... if you have read many posts on this forum, you will see it is rather hard to accuse us of not helping...

Just makes me happy we did not go all picnicking... :rofl:

never mind - internal joke, we have been here long enough to see some fake folks who we send packing to a picnic...

Ricky Bobby 06-04-2013 09:19 PM

can we go down by river and enjoy picnic T?

:rofl:


Glad you got it solved OP but like Mr. T said himself there is a certain level of trust for information that could potentially help someone steal an X5, and without referrals from other forums etc I can understand how some members might not be excited to post that on a public forum (who knows who could be reading that, gosh you can go on youtube nowadays and learn how to make a homemade bomb!)

Thanks for coming through UCrew, thats why you are the founder extraordinaire!

bcredliner 06-04-2013 09:38 PM

I expect to get thrashed for this but I don't see the big deal about providing information about how to open an X when anyone that wants to get in a vehicle that shouldn't can break a window. Someone wanting to steal a vehicle except for a joy ride should know enough to steal something that can be parted out easily like a Honda or Ford 150 and be far less conspicuous in the process. I acknowledge most thieves aren't that smart but I don't see them coming to the forum for help.

UCrewX5 06-04-2013 10:24 PM

With a simple set of tools I can be inside of an E53 in less than a minute with no sign of how I got in. I'm not going to be the one to post the tricks. If someone else wishes to, have at it.

bcredliner 06-04-2013 10:30 PM

I'd like to know, will you PM me?

TwinTurboGTR 06-04-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 939534)
Just makes me happy we did not go all picnicking... :rofl:

never mind - internal joke, we have been here long enough to see some fake folks who we send packing to a picnic...

But river flows dark and fast. Dog stop and see Spot go. Girlfriend cheating with friend. I see them smash, I feel sad but I get turn on. After he blast her, we sit down and go piknik.

bcredliner 06-04-2013 11:12 PM

Can you explain to me how an "inside joke" is a constructive post?

amacman 06-04-2013 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 939554)
can we go down by river and enjoy picnic T?

:rofl:


Glad you got it solved OP but like Mr. T said himself there is a certain level of trust for information that could potentially help someone steal an X5, and without referrals from other forums etc I can understand how some members might not be excited to post that on a public forum (who knows who could be reading that, gosh you can go on youtube nowadays and learn how to make a homemade bomb!)

Thanks for coming through UCrew, thats why you are the founder extraordinaire!

:popcorn: OK , I need a trench to lay a cable in and some bombs would be quicker than digging so pm me the videos .

TerminatorX5 06-04-2013 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 939558)
I expect to get thrashed for this but I don't see the big deal about providing information about how to open an X when anyone that wants to get in a vehicle that shouldn't can break a window. Someone wanting to steal a vehicle except for a joy ride should know enough to steal something that can be parted out easily like a Honda or Ford 150 and be far less conspicuous in the process. I acknowledge most thieves aren't that smart but I don't see them coming to the forum for help.

some of you guys know that i am with the DSS (same agency that agent Hobbs, (The Rock) from Fast and Furious is working at), and i am on the technical side of the house...

in our line of business, there are no locks or secrets - with enough money and manpower any place can be breached... We treat the security as a layered approach:

if my job to secure a hen, i will build a shed to prevent it from wandering off...

but a shed will not prevent the hen from being eaten by a fox, so i will put on a door...

the door will not stop a mischievious kid, so i will put a simple lock...

which will not stop a neighbor who wants to steal the hen... so i will put a better lock...

which will not stop the thief who wants to steal hen for profit, so i will beef up the shed, put a better door and a combination lock...

which will not stop a mean cuban agent who want to blackmail me with kidnapped hen, so i will install security systems, with cameras and alarms...

which will not stop a mean chinese agent, who wants get the secrets to the round shaped eggs, so i will install a better alarm, more cameras and have guards walking around the henhouse/shed...

which will not stop a mean russian agent who wants to prove that he can steal the hen regardless of my attempts to protect it, so i move the henhouse into an undisclosed location....

my point is, nothing can stop a determined thief from stealing an X... but we are preventing the casual joyrider, and a bit more determined thief from taking the car... that is all...

TerminatorX5 06-04-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcredliner (Post 939577)
Can you explain to me how an "inside joke" is a constructive post?

i think in my 3000 posts i have a few that are not constructive at all... i sure hope that most of posts on this forum are more constructive than my picnic... the key just floated... girlfriend makes river to bumper of his car...

lol... redliner, relax, we are having fun... this is not first time someone comes to the forum, with 5 posts total and is asking us for help to get into his car that either his kids or his girlfriend has locked up... the stories are the same, the posters are nowhere to be found after the initial appearance... look at the membership roll - over 70 thousand users registered, and only couple hundred people actively talking on this forum...

you don't expect us to believe every story we hear... the moderators may have means of proxy verifying the person, while average forum user does not have such a luxury...:thumbup:

wait, i have to reply to General Admiral Mahmoud Suleiman from Nigeria - i just won a coca cola international sweepstake in Great britain for 40.5 million british pounds, i just need to send in $300 to cover the paperwork expenses... :nanana:

Xman13 06-05-2013 12:52 AM

Thank you all for coming around to understand my side. New car and locked out. I am a member of another forum for my 325. Found this one when I started searching.

I understand why you were not willing to give up this info. Some of the posts were pretty moronic though.

Can anyone tell me what the hell TwinTurboGTR is talking about in post #21

JCL 06-05-2013 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xman13 (Post 939598)
Can anyone tell me what the hell TwinTurboGTR is talking about in post #21

From memory, a regular Chinese spammer who tries to sell useless ebay key blanks and/or key programmers here regularly. His/her posts always include references to having a picnic, floating on rivers, and so on. But buying his fake keys always saves the day, as I understand it.

Here is a sample: http://www.xoutpost.com/off-topic/lo...s-picnics.html

Wholeo1955 06-07-2013 11:55 AM

Join AAA no only do they allow you 1 battery per year they can unlock your car for about $140. per year

Xman13 06-07-2013 12:15 PM

Why pay someone to do what I can do for free? Most insurance companies offer what AAA offers anyway. People just dont know about it.

haigha 06-07-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xman13 (Post 940054)
Most insurance companies offer what AAA offers anyway. People just dont know about it.

I think it's an add-on for most insurance companies. For example, for State Farm it's called Emergency Road Service:

Types of Auto Insurance Coverage - State Farm

Emergency Road Service – State Farm®

Also, AAA has other benefits, example for Texas:

AAA - Benefit Comparison

Clockwork 06-20-2013 05:18 PM

Hi all. I've got a good friend with his X (2000 4.4) and his wife just discovered the exact same issues as the OP.
Can I please beg of someone to let me know how to access the X5 with a key fob that does not seem to be remotely unlocking the doors (not sure if she tried to pop the trunk) and manually turning the key doesn't seem to help either.
PS: we just replaced his door handle carrier a few weeks ago, but the X has been operating fine since, and this was NOT the first time we replaced a door handle carrier so we are very confident that we did it correctly again this time.
Appreciate any help, Please PM me.
Again, thanks in advance.

Xman13 06-20-2013 06:11 PM

If you have a spare key fob, there is an old wives tale. You can unlock it via a cell phone. Have the other key fob and hold it to the phone.
Not sure if it will work but its worth a try.

Qsilver7 06-20-2013 08:48 PM

The "wives tale" is just that...a tale...it doesn't work. :tsk:

Do we know if the vehicle has power? If so, and inserting the key manually into the driver's door lock cylinder and then turning the key counter clockwise PAST the electronic actuation of the key (approx 90°) doesn't unlock the door...what happens if you hold the key until the "convenience open" feature starts to roll the windows down? (again, do we know if the car's battery is dead or not?)

If there's power, try the convenience open feature, once the windows are down you should be able to reach in and unlock the doors (if the doors weren't double-locked).

To double-lock the vehicle requires it to be locked with the key (either remotely or manually). If the car was locked up by going thru any of the passenger's doors and manually locking it...then the vehicle is in single lock mode and a double pull of the door handles is all that's required.

BMW changed the operation of central locking around the 2000 model year...and now, if the vehicle is double-locked...you can now open the doors from the inside...but you have to follow a procedure first:
  • press the central lock/unlock button on the center console first, then
  • pull one of the door handles twice, and it should open.
Manual UNLOCK procedure (when there's electrical failure...and other remote key doesn't work):


http://bimmerboard.com/members/q/ori...r%20Unlock.jpg

Even though the door handle is different on the e38/e39/e46...the lock cylinder positions are the same:

http://bimmerboard.com/members/q/ori...0E38%20E39.jpg

Quicksilver 06-20-2013 09:29 PM

Hey I've got a friend, who knows a gal, who has an uncle, who needs to access the Popes X5. Can someone please send me the instructions so I can break in.
Sorry I couldn't resist.......:rofl::rofl:

Clockwork 06-22-2013 03:10 AM

qsilver7, thanks for the info. He managed to get into the trunk with the key fob. The key fob and physical key wouldnt unlock doors but trunk hatch would open with remote for some reason. Anyhow, he crawled in and started the x5 to which the alarm went off for 2 seconds then it stopped he said.
He managed to get the x home but its playin with him and his central locking. his drivers door handle is not working, hence why turning the key in tumbler would not open now... still unsure why his key fob wouldn't open doors, yet would pop trunk. he has the x on a battery tender now so we'll see. very weird behavior. I suspect its the x5 battery so I recommended he get a new one (2000 with original battery, so it seems). anyhow atleast he never had to break his window

Qsilver7 06-22-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 942682)
qsilver7, thanks for the info. He managed to get into the trunk with the key fob. The key fob and physical key wouldnt unlock doors but trunk hatch would open with remote for some reason. Anyhow, he crawled in and started the x5 to which the alarm went off for 2 seconds then it stopped he said.
He managed to get the x home but its playin with him and his central locking. his drivers door handle is not working, hence why turning the key in tumbler would not open now... still unsure why his key fob wouldn't open doors, yet would pop trunk. he has the x on a battery tender now so we'll see. very weird behavior. I suspect its the x5 battery so I recommended he get a new one (2000 with original battery, so it seems). anyhow atleast he never had to break his window

Thanks for posting back with the resolution. Lucky for him that he could get the tailgate to open.

It would have been nice if BMW would have at least installed a door lock cylinder on the front passenger door...that would give a 2nd way to manually get into the vehicle if something happens to the driver's door lock cylinder...especially since there's no tailgate lock cylinder to manually enter the vehicle from the exterior.

Clockwork 06-22-2013 12:14 PM

exactly!!! or put one in the trunk too as a back up.

Mujahid 09-03-2013 04:53 AM

PASSENGER DOOR WONT OPEN FROM INSIDE OR OUTSIDE
 
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Hi all, first off a big thank you to this forum and its members. The assistance you have provided has been invaluable. And am therefore please to contribute as well.

PASSENGER DOOR WONT OPEN FROM INSIDE OR OUTSIDE
First determine by listening if the actuator is working or not. In my case it was not. So there was no signal from the door module (located on passenger door window switch) to the actuator.
I could therefore not open the door from either the inside or outside. THERE IS NO NEED TO REMOVE DOOR CARD INSITU IN THIS CASE.
What you need to do is “hot wire “ the actuator;
Remove the door switch, using a flat tool, preferably plastic.
Undo all the connectors on the bottom of the unit.

Attachment 60432

The white connector feeds power to the actuator motors.

Attachment 60431
You need to find the BLUE, WHITE and BLACK wires on this connector (PINS 12, 6 & 7)
The BLUE is the common wire with WHITE and BLACK going to the motors in the actuator.
LOCK: +12V to the WHITE/ BLACK wire and –ve/ ground on the BLUE wire
UNLOCK: +12V on the BLUE wire and –ve/ground on the WHITE/ BLACK wire
You have to reverse polarity to LOCK and UNLOCK.

Attachment 60433

TIP: I simply used a small jumper wire and used the existing +12V and –ve available on the big black connector to pulse the actuator.
WARNING: There are BUS cables amongst these – SO PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT UNLESS YOU ARE COMPETENT AND ABSOLUTELY SURE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!
PM if I have not been clear on any issue and I can also send you a copy of the schematic.


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