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THE VEIN 10-27-2013 09:29 AM

My leaking rear diff
 
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So my rear diff has been leaking for about 6,000 miles and finally had a chance to get a opinion on what it might be. I emailed some pics to my friends shop and was told I would need both axle seals and rear plate seal $550 with bmw fluid and bmw gaskets and a few hours of labor to complete

How's that price sound? This price is coming from someone I trust 100%

THE VEIN 10-27-2013 09:30 AM

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Gregory891 10-27-2013 11:29 AM

A few questions, why only since 6000 miles? If you've (recently) checked the oil level and that it's about right - perhaps you're not loosing that much. Did you (already) entirely clean the exterior housing (kerosene is a good solvent) and then monitor to determine if it's more the rear housing gasket (easier and cheaper to replace) rather than the input or one or both of the flange output seals?

X5SND 10-27-2013 11:43 AM

I'd definitely clean it off and confirm whats leaking first.

There's nothing wrong with replacing both axle seals while its in the shop....but the passenger side looks high and dry, so it I wouldn't really say it's warranted. The drivers side is definitely toast though.

THE VEIN 10-27-2013 11:44 AM

When i purchased the car the seller washed down the car from top to bottom so the PPI mechanic couldn't find any leaks. I never really notice any oil spots on the floor but I would pressure wash the diff or use brake cleaner and after a while I would see it back covered in oil

THE VEIN 10-27-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by X5SND (Post 961214)
I'd definitely clean it off and confirm whats leaking first.

There's nothing wrong with replacing both axle seals while its in the shop....but the passenger side looks high and dry, so it I wouldn't really say it's warranted. The drivers side is definitely toast though.


Yea I figured why change just one side

THE VEIN 10-27-2013 11:51 AM

Do u think the price is fair?

X5SND 10-27-2013 12:18 PM

In all honesty, I'm about the last guy to talk to about how much a repair would/should cost. Im fortunate to have a buddy whose dad grew up with my dad and owns a transmission shop (giving me access to all kinds of luxuries for working on the X)...and lucky enough to be able to do the jobs you simply can't do at home easily, after hours or on weekends at the shop on my own time.

THE VEIN 10-28-2013 02:43 PM

Is this a DIY job or something a shop should handle

bcredliner 10-28-2013 03:54 PM

Can't help you on how much it should cost-differs by location. Best way is to get a second opinion.

Can't tell if the cover gasket is leaking or the leak from the seal is running down and making it appear to be leaking. I would confirm the cover gasket is leaking. If it is only that one seal I would consider not bothering with the gasket or the other seal. It the cover gasket is leaking then doing it all makes sense.

DIY of Differential cover and output shaft seals is a heavy job but not all that difficult. You will need a puller tool to remove the seals. You may be able to rent what you need from a local autoparts store.

To replace the cover seal the differential has to be removed. It is heavy so you will need to support it with something. The seals can be replaced without pulling the differential. If you need to do both cover seal and shaft seals it would be easier to do the seals after Differential is removed.

TiAgX5 10-28-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by THE VEIN (Post 961215)
When i purchased the car the seller washed down the car from top to bottom so the PPI mechanic couldn't find any leaks. I never really notice any oil spots on the floor but I would pressure wash the diff or use brake cleaner and after a while I would see it back covered in oil

I would avoid brake cleaner around rubber seals or plastic parts, it dries them out. A mild degreaser would be a better choice.

srmmmm 10-28-2013 05:16 PM

Unless you're seeing drips on the garage floor, I wouldn't worry about it yet, you've just got "seepage". I had one side replaced at the dealership at about 205,00 miles and it was just under $300. My wife's 325i didn't get driven much one year, and both sides were replaced on hers at about 85,000 miles. It was $535.

2002 X5 3.0 242,000 miles
2004 325i 107,000 miles

THE VEIN 10-28-2013 06:42 PM

Anytime I do clean it, it always gets back covered in oil like the pics. I have 2 small kids and we love to go for long drives so I'd rather not be left stranded somewhere or worse have it lock up on the highway

THE VEIN 10-28-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TiAgX5 (Post 961431)
I would avoid brake cleaner around rubber seals or plastic parts, it dries them out. A mild degreaser would be a better choice.

I was gonna use some dish soap in my foam cannon and my 1800psi pressure washer

srmmmm 10-29-2013 02:44 PM

I'm sure you're probably aware, but be careful where you point that high pressure nozzle. That's enough psi to easily force the soap solution right past the seal and into the differential housing.

2002 X5 3.0 242,000 miles
2004 325i 107,000 miles

TiAgX5 10-29-2013 03:05 PM

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I'm sure you're probably aware, but be careful where you point that high pressure nozzle. That's enough psi to easily force the soap solution right past the seal and into the differential housing.

2002 X5 3.0 242,000 miles
2004 325i 107,000 miles

+1.

Grease cutting dish soap, soft brush and garden hose would be better.

THE VEIN 10-29-2013 10:01 PM

It turns out I just need my axel seals done. $400 Oem seals and bmw fluid

bcredliner 10-30-2013 04:01 PM

Always a good thing to save $150.

THE VEIN 10-30-2013 11:14 PM

So 400 is good?

ArmyX5 10-31-2013 04:09 AM

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So 400 is good?

It depends if you don't want to get your hand dirty. The DIY is not that hard if you have three key tools. I did my a month ago and it took me 30 minutes. The most difficult part about it was getting up to apply the handbrake so that you can rotate the tire in order to get to all the bolts. The key tools are; a small crowbar to take out the old seals, 3/4 star socket (not 100% sure about the size at this time) and a Cup of the same diameter as the seal. I used one similar to the one on the second picture. As you can see from the first picture, you can replace both seals for less than $100 if you have the tools laying around in your tool kit or buy the tools and still save you a least $200. You don't need to take the tires off, leave them on. it is easier to turn them and be careful when taking out the old seals, don't scrape the inside of the differential with the crowbar.

I hope this help.


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