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TiAgX5 12-20-2013 02:19 PM

Crazy WIDE Alpina wheels!!!
 
Someone needs to snatch these........

RARE Genuine Factory Staggered BMW x5 E53 Alpina 21" Rims 21x10 and 21x11 5 | eBay

e30cabrio 12-20-2013 02:47 PM

Wow. My Wife would kill me & then get mean.

Ricky Bobby 12-20-2013 02:48 PM

Someone with a 4.6/4.8 needs to snatch these, sheesh for 4k I'm almost at the funds for my ESS supercharger LOL

tmv 12-20-2013 02:52 PM

Hummm

Clockwork 12-20-2013 05:17 PM

those are STUPID HEAVY!!!

TiAgX5 12-20-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 970763)
those are STUPID HEAVY!!!

That's why I posted the heads up and didn't make an offer. I went with ultra-light 255-285 19s on my X.

Chandys Aero pkg X would look crazy with these!

X5SND 12-20-2013 05:43 PM

I understand/can appreciate the rarity of these wheels....but am I the only one that thinks they're the definition of ugly? (Like the 1990's kind that doesn't age well! Lol).

TiAgX5 12-20-2013 05:47 PM

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First time I saw them I didn't like, after viewing a few days later I liked them more. FWIW, I've always liked Alpina design items, all the way back to the 2002tii parts.

Alpina has been tuning BMWs for around 40yrs.

This is the X for those wheels........

4.8isX5 12-20-2013 05:54 PM

I think they look pretty good, heres a guy that follows me on instagram from europe has a 4.8 thats lowered like our group and has these...

Pic-

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...96A288809E.png

tmv 12-20-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by X5SND (Post 970770)
I understand/can appreciate the rarity of these wheels....but am I the only one that thinks they're the definition of ugly? (Like the 1990's kind that doesn't age well! Lol).

I have to disagree. They do look good on E53.
http://members.roadfly.com/nwbmwparts/Mvc-014f.jpg
http://www.carhunters.net/Bilder/BMW/bmw48.jpg
http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galle...5979734123.JPG

TiAgX5 12-20-2013 06:48 PM

Those wheels make the aero kit look so much better!

Seeing them on an E53 made me put in an offer on them!

StephenVA 12-20-2013 07:26 PM

Meaty!

BRABUSBENZ21 12-20-2013 07:47 PM

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RFaber 12-20-2013 07:50 PM

They're in my back yard (so to speak) if anyone is thinking of pulling the trigger could have a look for ya!
Me I have to pass, but they do look cool!

X5SND 12-20-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TiAgX5 (Post 970772)
First time I saw them I didn't like, after viewing a few days later I liked them more. FWIW, I've always liked Alpina design items, all the way back to the 2002tii parts.

Alpina has been tuning BMWs for around 40yrs.

This is the X for those wheels........

You know, they actually wouldn't look that bad with the silver & aero kit. IMO The quad-five spoke design doesn't really fit the bodylines on the X though....just look off.

I'm guessing these wheels are gonna be forged...so they shouldn't be much heavier than a set of 20" reps. It'd Be interesting to know where they stood in terms of weight though!

TiAgX5 12-20-2013 11:13 PM

They are 34lbs front and 36lbs rear.

g300d 12-20-2013 11:53 PM

Nice and not common too!

TiAgX5, for a variety of reasons I too want to stay with the staggered 19's for my 3.0. What lightweight wheels did you get? Looking fir something different from my current style 63's.

TiAgX5 12-21-2013 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by g300d (Post 970815)
Nice and not common too!

TiAgX5, for a variety of reasons I too want to stay with the staggered 19's for my 3.0. What lightweight wheels did you get? Looking fir something different from my current style 63's.

I got a used set of Envy wheels with almost new tires off e-bay about 3 yrs ago.

Ricky Bobby 12-21-2013 11:11 AM

Tiag I'd like to see those wheels on your X! Hope you offered like 2k lol.

After seeing the blue X from Europe I guess they could work. I think it needs slight lowering, iS kit, and running boards to pull the look off.

I absolutely think the aero kit is hideous and doesn't ever look good on an X, adding 3500 dollar wheels wouldn't help it IMO.

X5SND 12-21-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 970863)
I absolutely think the aero kit is hideous and doesn't ever look good on an X, adding 3500 dollar wheels wouldn't help it IMO.

That's why those wheels don't look that bad with an aero kit....all the hideousness works together! LOL.

TiAgX5 12-21-2013 11:55 AM

If I end up with them, the KW coilover kit and new bushings will go on B4 these wheels.

I bid low to "test the waters" on them, seeing as I got my current set off e-bay for $600. The tires alone cost over $1000 on Tire Rack, and still had the mold nubs on the tread surfaces. A SWAG deal (stolen without a gun).

pezho405 12-21-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 4.8isX5 (Post 970773)
I think they look pretty good, heres a guy that follows me on instagram from europe has a 4.8 thats lowered like our group and has these...

Pic-

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...96A288809E.png

I think i follow you as well whats your ig name?

g300d 12-21-2013 09:38 PM

Nice! They make the brakes really stand out too. Thanks Ti!

Btw, what are the wheel widths and offsets for those? Are they an E53 fitment?

TiAgX5 12-21-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by g300d (Post 970936)
Nice! They make the brakes really stand out too. Thanks Ti!

Btw, what are the wheel widths and offsets for those? Are they an E53 fitment?

Alpina designed for E53 fitment, Ronal was contracted to produce.

Front are 10" and +50mm offset, rears are 11.5" and +28mm offset.

The current wheels on my X are E53 fitment, 8.5f and 9.5r 19s. Don't recall the offset but had to install 25mm spacers to get the rears out where I want them.

g300d 12-22-2013 12:54 AM

Ah. I think your current wheels are M3 spec, I see a lot of that size (8.5/9.5) on M3 and the E46 guys. Our trucks run 9" front/10" rear wheela for the sport package. Thanks for the info!

Good luck with the bid, post pics when you get them on please! :)

TiAgX5 12-22-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by g300d (Post 970959)
Ah. I think your current wheels are M3 spec, I see a lot of that size (8.5/9.5) on M3 and the E46 guys. Our trucks run 9" front/10" rear wheela for the sport package. Thanks for the info!

Good luck with the bid, post pics when you get them on please! :)

Will do.

You're probably right with the E46/M wheel info. I have to swap those wheels in the pic for the OE when I load the X and tow at the same time.

The wheels are load rated 680kg each, but a rear wheel with full tread tire mounted tips the scale at under 50 lbs.

xRide 12-22-2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5SND (Post 970770)
I understand/can appreciate the rarity of these wheels....but am I the only one that thinks they're the definition of ugly? (Like the 1990's kind that doesn't age well! Lol).

Youre not.

Imy 12-23-2013 10:01 AM

WOW! I know a guy selling these in the UK for £1600 WITH nearly new quality branded tires, and he had them refurbed before sale.

Ive seen these and they are definitely one of the best wheels for the E53

BIMMER_BLUEBLOOD 12-23-2013 10:37 AM

i was reading that weight was an issue with those Alpina wheels. how much do they weigh? and what reccomendations/opinions are there for a light weight 20" wheel? cuz 20' is the direction im headed. i think the size looks great on an e53

tmv 12-23-2013 10:52 AM

^Post #16 on page 2. Also listed in the eBay ads.
http://www.xoutpost.com/970812-post16.html

Go with stock style87, style168 or style177. They are 27.5/31.5 lbs Front/Rear.
My HRE 648R save about 1.5-2lbs ea.

X5SND 12-23-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BIMMER_BLUEBLOOD (Post 971092)
i was reading that weight was an issue with those Alpina wheels. how much do they weigh? and what reccomendations/opinions are there for a light weight 20" wheel? cuz 20' is the direction im headed. i think the size looks great on an e53

I suppose you'd have all sorts of options for aftermarket lightweight wheels. But for factory style wheels, just make sure they're OEM's and you should be fine. I completely agree, in that 20's are the right size for an e53.

One of the nice things about these wheels is that with the added width and lower offset, it negates the need for spacers on the rear for those of you with rear flares. In my case, my wheels are 20x10 front and 20x11 rear and they come just to the edge of the fender. Either way, when you get up to wheels that are 11+ inches wide, that .5" makes little difference....they still look like a steam roller. :)

J.Belknap 12-23-2013 02:58 PM

Bridgestone Duelers run wide in their size. ;)

TiAgX5 12-23-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Imy (Post 971089)
WOW! I know a guy selling these in the UK for £1600 WITH nearly new quality branded tires, and he had them refurbed before sale.

Ive seen these and they are definitely one of the best wheels for the E53

Yeah, the e-bay seller is WAY overpriced on these. Used and refurbished (along with the possibility of one or more being less then true), will keep my max bid to less then 1/2 his "buy now" price.

If these were brand new/unused and in original boxes, I would STILL not pay his "buy now" price.

325/30/21s would really fill the wheelwells of the E53.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....tnum=23YR1PSC2

TiAgX5 01-18-2014 12:14 AM

These have been on e-bay for over 2 mos and still not sold. Seller must think reconditioned wheels bring new wheel prices. :dunno:

PropellerHead 01-18-2014 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TiAgX5 (Post 975518)
These have been on e-bay for over 2 mos and still not sold. Seller must think reconditioned wheels bring new wheel prices. :dunno:

+1

They're only rare bc they're expensive. They're still available in the US through the Alpina Disty, KSK. The set of 4 is $5,600. Tires are about $700 each. They're not terribly heavy for 21's.

These wheels are for my E53 like AC Schitzers were for my E39. When I saw that E39 in 1996 with Type II's, I knew I had to have them. Took me 4 years to get the car, another 4 to get the StopTechs, and then until 2006 to actually get the ACS Type IIs, but I did. And I love 'em.

I saw those Alpina's about 10 years ago and knew I had to have a 4.8is to put 'em on. THAT only took 7 years! LOL. And now. We wait.

These things are like new tile roof on the house kinda money. I am a patient man. Besides. You can't have wheels like this without some cool brakes to show off. ;pimp; Right? I mean. Right? LOL.

BTW, this guy wouldn't take nearly $3k for his 'rare' wheels. He instead wanted to sell them via Paypal outside of EBAY. This is a red flag. Don't get screwed.

Clockwork 01-18-2014 04:31 AM

I too find the wheels very nice actually. I'd love a set of alpina's for my 8

giodog2000 01-18-2014 11:09 AM

Don't you find it a little too bling bling? They do look good I must admit but at first glance, it screams "pimp my ride"???? No?

TiAgX5 01-18-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PropellerHead (Post 975527)
+1

They're only rare bc they're expensive. They're still available in the US through the Alpina Disty, KSK. The set of 4 is $5,600. Tires are about $700 each. They're not terribly heavy for 21's.

These wheels are for my E53 like AC Schitzers were for my E39. When I saw that E39 in 1996 with Type II's, I knew I had to have them. Took me 4 years to get the car, another 4 to get the StopTechs, and then until 2006 to actually get the ACS Type IIs, but I did. And I love 'em.

I saw those Alpina's about 10 years ago and knew I had to have a 4.8is to put 'em on. THAT only took 7 years! LOL. And now. We wait.

These things are like new tile roof on the house kinda money. I am a patient man. Besides. You can't have wheels like this without some cool brakes to show off. ;pimp; Right? I mean. Right? LOL.

BTW, this guy wouldn't take nearly $3k for his 'rare' wheels. He instead wanted to sell them via Paypal outside of EBAY. This is a red flag. Don't get screwed.

So true.

These need pizza size rotors with StopTech or Brembo calipers to look right. OE size brakes and it's "Pimp my Rideish".

IMHO, wheels in need of refinishing are worth more then refurbished wheels. The structural integrity/balance/trueness could be an issue if the wheels were abused, the refurbishing/repair has HIDDEN all the abuse. New, glossy paint on used wheels reduces value for me.

ProfessorX5 01-18-2014 04:43 PM

WOW. I think I just got aroused.

J.Belknap 01-19-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giodog2000 (Post 975542)
Don't you find it a little too bling bling?

Yes.

But to each their own!

giodog2000 01-19-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by J.Belknap (Post 975663)
Yes.

But to each their own!

:iagree:

TiAgX5 10-18-2015 09:51 PM

These are still for sale........

Extremely RARE Genuine BMW x5 Alpina 21" Rims 21x10 and 21x11 5 Awesome Shape | eBay

The pics in the link are IDENTICAL to the "ended" link in the first post of this thread!

X53Jay4.8is 10-18-2015 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiAgX5 (Post 1055281)
These are still for sale........

Extremely RARE Genuine BMW x5 Alpina 21" Rims 21x10 and 21x11 5 Awesome Shape | eBay

The pics in the link are IDENTICAL to the "ended" link in the first post of this thread!

For some of us its pretty clear why these wheels have not sold. They are just plain ugly. Yeah if you want to be different then go for it even if it looks ugly. The most attractive thing about those wheels is the center cap.

X53Jay4.8is 10-18-2015 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5SND (Post 970770)
I understand/can appreciate the rarity of these wheels....but am I the only one that thinks they're the definition of ugly? (Like the 1990's kind that doesn't age well! Lol).

+1

TiAgX5 10-18-2015 10:24 PM

Classic BMW has a Z8 with these wheels, they look better in person.

I offered the seller 1/2 asking price almost 2 yrs ago, was not accepted.

X53Jay4.8is 10-18-2015 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TiAgX5 (Post 1055285)
Classic BMW has a Z8 with these wheels, they look better in person.

I offered the seller 1/2 asking price almost 2 yrs ago, was not accepted.

So it looks like the seller is trying his luck all over again.

I have also seen these in person and they never really struck me as beautiful but if you were to get them at half of the listed price for authentic Alpina wheels then perhaps more consideration could be given to them. If you like them then you should go for them. I love wheels but they have to be drop dead gorgeous for me move on them.

TUNEX_E53 05-27-2021 12:46 PM

I think they are perfect fit for the first Face Gen E53 1999-2003 with 4.8 body kit
Pure German Breed


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