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Alexd1632 01-08-2014 10:39 AM

using so much fuel
 
can any one help me

i got my x5 4 months ago and it was not to bad on fuel but now i can barley get 15mpg out of it ?

some people are saying to do a oil change ?

if any one else has same problem or has had this please let me no

many thanks

TerminatorX5 01-08-2014 10:54 AM

well, looking at your post, i can say that you are at littledean, and probably have an E53 BMW... I would even go further, and speculate, that you got a fuel-operated E53, and not some weird electric hybrid...

other than that, what was the purpose of this post? I think everyone on this forum, as well on the other automotive forums, have problems with their vehicles using up fuel... no free rides here... unless it is a hay... err... barley ride....


Now, all jokes aside -

if you are looking for any sensible answer and not a smart-ass smirks that I just provided, please provide more information:

year, mileage, trim, engine size of your car... this will put your 15 MPG in prospective with the other folks with similar rides...

your location and type of driving - if you are in US, UK or AUS, or Middle East... different fuels... different terrain... driving habits - if you drive like a granny... or racing one traffic light at a time...

oil... i would agree with some people - internal combustion engines require periodic oil change... you have had the car 4 months, obviously did not change oil and probably do not know when the oil was changed last time - how can you ask for a maintenance advise if you do not have a basic baseline?

this is a very friendly forum, and we (myself including) welcome you to the Xoutpost... However, most of us are adults, and as a result, we are used to grown up talk - ask a sensible question, get a sensible answer...

you may consider an automatic signature line, so you will not have to repeat yourself everytime about your ride...

again, welcome to the forum...

Alexd1632 01-08-2014 11:14 AM

you hit it on the nail there were i live and x5 i have very good lol

just cant make it out why it was not bad and now really bad but will change the oil on weekend and find out from that :]

but thanks for your comment

motordavid 01-08-2014 11:35 AM

If your mpg was "not bad and now really bad", an oil change can't 'hurt', but I doubt it will be a treatment or fix...

Assuming your driving habits/routes/conditions have not changed appreciably from the 'not bad' period to 'now', some other things may have changed or something may be amiss.

And, as Terminator suggested, add your model year, engine, trans, miles, general location, etc., either in your Sig or in a post.

Back at the Winter Ranch, the brutally cold weather of late is not conducive to good mpg.
GL, mD

Alexd1632 01-08-2014 11:44 AM

ok

its a 2002 bmw x5 (E53) 3.0i auto 106000

motordavid 01-08-2014 12:41 PM

And,
Nome, AK or Mississippi, or...?

Have your driven conditions or situ changed since you were getting 'good mpg' to now, not so good?

15 mpg, as an overall average, with stop and go, is pretty reasonable, imo.

Need more info.

white lancer 01-08-2014 12:59 PM

I get around 23mpg on the motorway and 19mpg around town so your 15mpg is pretty naff. Maybe change your plugs?

upallnight 01-08-2014 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 973628)
well, looking at your post, i can say that you are at littledean, and probably have an E53 BMW... I would even go further, and speculate, that you got a fuel-operated E53, and not some weird electric hybrid...

other than that, what was the purpose of this post? I think everyone on this forum, as well on the other automotive forums, have problems with their vehicles using up fuel... no free rides here... unless it is a hay... err... barley ride....


Now, all jokes aside -

if you are looking for any sensible answer and not a smart-ass smirks that I just provided, please provide more information:

year, mileage, trim, engine size of your car... this will put your 15 MPG in prospective with the other folks with similar rides...

your location and type of driving - if you are in US, UK or AUS, or Middle East... different fuels... different terrain... driving habits - if you drive like a granny... or racing one traffic light at a time...

oil... i would agree with some people - internal combustion engines require periodic oil change... you have had the car 4 months, obviously did not change oil and probably do not know when the oil was changed last time - how can you ask for a maintenance advise if you do not have a basic baseline?

this is a very friendly forum, and we (myself including) welcome you to the Xoutpost... However, most of us are adults, and as a result, we are used to grown up talk - ask a sensible question, get a sensible answer...

you may consider an automatic signature line, so you will not have to repeat yourself everytime about your ride...

again, welcome to the forum...

Another BMW owner who shouldn't have brought a BMW.

:rofl:

tmv 01-08-2014 01:11 PM

Did you get all the maintenance up-to-dated? New spark plugs and O2 sensors (pre-cat) would improve mpg.
There might be some addictives change in gasoline in winter time too.
Also, look like you're running 20" wheels on it, in your avatar. That certainly not help. I used to avg about 15-16mpg on the old 3.0 with 90% city driving.

romeokc10 01-08-2014 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexd1632 (Post 973627)
can any one help me

i got my x5 4 months ago and it was not to bad on fuel but now i can barley get 15mpg out of it ?

some people are saying to do a oil change ?

if any one else has same problem or has had this please let me no

many thanks


Your gas mileage is right where it should be, these things are gas pigs, doesn't matter if it's a 6 or 8 cylinder. Just google the X5 E53 specs and you'll see that you're ok, remember these things weigh almost 5000 pounds. So enjoy it, because when things start breaking you're really gonna be pissed...lol!!:rofl:

hunds02 01-08-2014 03:39 PM

I might be wrong but I think the 2005 X5 3.0 is 16 mpg (city) and 20 mpg (hwy)
I would assume it would be the same if not worse for older model (i.e. 2002)
This is the MPG you should get when the car is brand new with fresh plugs/oil/coils/filter etc...
If you're driving in the city and getting one less MPG then that is acceptable. Also check tire air pressure, might give you 0.5 mpg increase or maybe more lol

Alexd1632 01-09-2014 05:25 AM

thanks every one it was just i thought there might be rong as it droped like that in a week

but saying that i changed the wheels and it started happen and they are 22" on there so i will but the 19" bmw ones back on and see

Alexd1632 01-09-2014 06:20 AM

dose any one no what bulbs go in the dash as mine as gone and cant see my miles

do i need a colored bulbs as the dash lights up orange is this the bulb or the dash

tmv 01-09-2014 10:09 AM

IIRC, bulb #3 (62111391260) No color.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/o/d/21.png
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...5/DSC_0530.jpg

Alexd1632 01-09-2014 10:57 AM

ok thanks buddy

Alexd1632 01-09-2014 12:23 PM

are they t5 bulbs ??

tmv 01-09-2014 12:42 PM

^They are special bulb in the holder.

OptimusPriM5 01-09-2014 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexd1632 (Post 973813)
dose any one no what bulbs go in the dash as mine as gone and cant see my miles

do i need a colored bulbs as the dash lights up orange is this the bulb or the dash

Cant read your miles or speed? I thought the odometer is pixelated but is that not the same on all X's?

srmmmm 01-09-2014 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeokc10 (Post 973678)
Your gas mileage is right where it should be, these things are gas pigs, doesn't matter if it's a 6 or 8 cylinder. Just google the X5 E53 specs and you'll see that you're ok, remember these things weigh almost 5000 pounds. So enjoy it, because when things start breaking you're really gonna be pissed...lol!!:rofl:

My 2002 with the 3.0, Steptronic and OEM trailer hitch scales at 4472 pounds. I'd say his wheel size has more to do with his lower mileage than anything, especially if it's primarily city with a lot of starts and stops. The tire/wheel combination may weigh less than the OEMs, but the moment of inertia is higher with the larger diameter wheels and actually takes more energy to accelerate. Also, I see it's 6 degrees centigrade in Littledean, UK right now and we all know that colder weather eats up the fuel too.

2002 X5 3.0 245,800 miles
2004 325i 109,000 miles

tmv 01-09-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OptimusPriM5 (Post 973878)
Cant read your miles or speed? I thought the odometer is pixelated but is that not the same on all X's?

There are bulbs behind the cluster (see my post) You won't see anything in that block when the bulb burnt. It's not the dead-pixel problem.
I make a little PS picture to clarify.

Alexd1632 01-09-2014 03:37 PM

Thanks for that buddy do you no were I can get these bulbs ??

tmv 01-09-2014 04:19 PM

Put the part# in here Furiousmethod.com - BMW Parts Price Comparison

Alexd1632 01-09-2014 04:36 PM

Still can't find it mate lol where do I get the part number from ??

tmv 01-09-2014 04:51 PM

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Still can't find it mate lol where do I get the part number from ??

http://www.xoutpost.com/973840-post14.html
part# 62111391260

Alexd1632 01-09-2014 05:19 PM

That part number is saying there is not a part for that number

TerminatorX5 01-09-2014 05:20 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=6211...sm=93&ie=UTF-8

tmv 01-09-2014 06:03 PM

Did you enable pop-up from furiousmethod.com? It shows a dozen of places where you can get it. Or just Google it as Term's link.

Alexd1632 01-11-2014 06:41 AM

Just a quick one any change any one nose what size the rad/water pipe is do they ??

tmv 01-11-2014 10:05 AM

You can't just replace it with some generic hose. There are special connectors at both end of the hose. I would buy OE replacement. Cooling system component is too important to save a few bucks.

P.S: what are you posting with? It's hard to read your post, buddy.

upallnight 01-11-2014 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmv (Post 974269)
You can't just replace it with some generic hose. There are special connectors at both end of the hose. I would buy OE replacement. Cooling system component is too important to save a few bucks.

P.S: what are you posting with? It's hard to read your post, buddy.

Since he's in the UK I'm assuming he's posting with the King's English. :p:

Gregory891 01-11-2014 11:05 AM

Alexd1632. If you were running 19" wheels and recently changed to 22" (which are likely EVEN wider), that would have an immediate impact on your mileage as you now have more rolling resistance. Add this to the fact that you likely enjoy the car even more and may be putting your foot even more often on the right pedal. Conversely if you put 17" wheels on the car, your fuel consumption will decrease.

I had a similar experience with my former E34 touring (525i 24V engine). I converted it from automatic to 5 speed manual and gained nearly 2 MPG (US figures). When I would remove my winter 15" wheels (6.5 width) and install my 17" summer wheels (8" wide), my mileage would suffer (I'd lose 1 to 2 MPG).

As Terminator pointed out, put your car's details in your signature line (go to the ID & set-up part of the forum). Then learn the maintenance schedule for your car and see when YOUR car last had these done. If you don't know, do it.

You should change:

engine oil & filter
air filter
microfilter (also known as the pollen filter)
fuel filter
change oil in the transfer case, transmission, front & rear differentials
spark plugs (if you have a gasoline engine)
coolant (BMW genuine coolant only)
brake fluid (every 2 years, DOT4 suitable for an ABS equipped car)
look at updates to correct endemic design issues of the E53, some of which are dependent on the engine & transmission of your car.

Then you can see if you have any thrust rod bushing, rear suspension links or other normal and typical E53 wear items to attend to.

Alexd1632 01-11-2014 02:35 PM

I am posting of a iPhone sorry boys

And I am putting in a temp gauge on the dash as the one in there doesn't read right and I need the size of the pipe to get a adapter.

If any one nose were I can get this size from please let me no

And gregory891 thanks for that I am changing wheels back tomorrow and changing oil and filter

TerminatorX5 01-12-2014 03:33 AM

Alex, you should understand that many members of this board are not native English speakers, and while you yourself might not be a native speaker, it is worth to note that "nose" is not the same as "knows", and "no" is not the same as "know". If you are using them as a slang, many folks can't understand them... If your spell checker automatically corrects the words, you should recalibrate it.

Now, tell us more about that temperature gauge you are about to place on your dash... Also, give us a bit of a background on yourself - have you dealt with bimmers before? How much technical skill do you have? Do you know about i-Bus cars (bmw, rovers, range rovers, mini, rolls royce)? Do you know that you can bring engine core temperature, both oil and coolant, to the dash cluster without running any pipes?

Alexd1632 01-12-2014 08:37 AM

Hi thanks for that.
This is the first time on a bmw and I have many skills as I have done this many of time.

Alexd1632 01-12-2014 08:37 AM

Hi thanks for that.
This is the first time on a bmw and I have many skills as I have done this many of time.

TerminatorX5 01-12-2014 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexd1632 (Post 974414)
Hi thanks for that.
This is the first time on a bmw and I have many skills as I have done this many of time.

Alex, the E53 allows you to pull the temperature onto the cluster - no need to run pipes from the engine bay to the interior of the car...


when you say "done many of times", could you specify how many years of automotive experience you have, so we do not patronize by an accident...


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