Bluetooth Music Streaming
 

Hi Guys,

I want to know what my options are for installing BT streaming in my car. I have an '05 X5 with Nav, TV, BT etc and I want to keep all the OEM stuff, ie I don't want a Dynavin or a Hualinguan etc. Is there an easy way of doing this? Has anyone done it? Any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers
Tim

i did it...

check this post - http://www.xoutpost.com/961741-post33.html

on the picture at that post you will see a $25 BT dongle from local Wal-Mart - works perfect...

ask questions or PM - i will gladly help...

Thanks for that. I'll be honest and say looking at it didn't make a lot of sense :). I am the least handy person in the world!

i feel you Pann, same here, i've tried many app to stream BT audio. The google maps gps voice get's connected via BT and through the speakers no problem, but once I try to play music trough my phone, it can't.

-TermX.. where did you begin the connection/hardwire for the connection. or how does that particular BT device work?

:confused:

In the cars with the factory nav and/or tv there is a factory pre-wired 3-pin connector behind the monitor that is taped up to the main harness... the 3-pin mating connector corresponds to the part number that i mentioned in my write-up... the factory harness consists of that connector, one resistor at 300 kOhm that tells the radio circuitry that there is a load on the AUX input, the radio activates the verbiage "AUX" as part of available sound inputs on the monitor... the factory harness is only long enough to route the 3.5mm industry standard jack to the area of the glove compartment or within the reach of that cable...

if the car does not have the factory nav monitor, then the factory harness comes with bare pins to be inserted into empty slots on the business radio in the front dash, and the other end is industry standard 3.5mm jack...

since i did not want the jack in the glove compartment area, i just bought the parts, and put the wires together... opening up the monitor was one of the easiest parts of this job - pry the surrounding shroud out, use T-10 torx bit, take 4 torx screws out, pull the monitor (don't drop it or scratch), find the factory connector that is just taped up to the monitor harness, free it up a bit, connect my harness, and then the hardest part, fish my harness to where i wanted it to be... if the wires and the pins are connected correctly, instantly on your screen you get an AUX when you do the MODE button...

I can guide you guys step by step... first, look over the PDF to see if that document makes sense...

then, if you would like some assistance, just let me know...

oh, almost forgot about the Bt dongle...

it is an iLive unit, it does music streaming in stereo from BT source and sends that music to a 3.5mm output, that can be fed into your choice of input. i bought mine for about US$18, including shipping, online, turned out, my local Wal-Mart has the same unit for $25.

I use an HTC One X+ android phone. for navigation i use Waze, for music i use either pandora or Tune-In app that pull live feed from radiostations worldwide... I also have 12th generation OE BMW ULF unit for the telephone operation. in the telephone itself i have chosen to use the iLive device (once it was paired to the phone) as a "multimedia interface" and the "BMW ULF" as a "phone interface".

as a result, when I put my HTC into a cradle, the cradle activates a "car profile" that has Tune-In application launching and i tune it to my station of choice. it is also set up so that the phone BT activates and connects to the BMW ULF (which is always active with ignition start) and simultaneously connects to the iLive device. the phone starts streaming the radio broadcast. for me to hear the stream, i need to press "MODE" button on the monitor, to select the AUX input, and i have my music coming through my speakers, with DSP, treble, bass, speed sensitive volume all functional...
at that moment, if i desire to activate the Waze, I can do so, while the music continues to stream... the voice guidance from Waze mutes the music stream to inform me of turns or traffic conditions, and the music comes back...

if, during that process i receive a phone call, the streaming pauses, and mutes on the speakers, while the active call comes through the speakers, as the BMW ULF takes over... once the call is finished, the Tune-In resumes the play - it buffers, and then picks up the broadcast... while the call is active and the music is paused, the voice guidance from Waze comes from the phones speakers (and it sounds funny, like a little kid trying to get your attention...)...

if I decide to use Voice commands of my BMW ULF, I press talking head on the steering wheel, the streaming mutes (and then pauses on the phone), the BMW ULF lady is listening for my directions, say i want to call somebody, places a call - everything as i described earlier...

the same applies to Pandora and Google maps, even though i prefer Waze and Tune-In...

this type of BT operation is heavily dependent on the telephone, if the telephone can allow separate operation of music stream and phone operation, and if the phone allows music stream and overlay of nav guidance...

I hope my explanation makes sense... otherwise - ask questions...

I opened an account just to reply to this thread because I came up with a way to accomplish this that I am almost positive no one else has thought of.

I have a 2006 E53 with non-DSP and Navigation.

I bought the Dice MediaBridge adapter so I could have Sirius and a connection for my iPhone/iPod.

In order to be able to use Bluetooth instead of having to directly connect my iPhone, I bought a iPod dock to bluetooth adapter on ebay. I could not find any with a reasonable price that shipped from the uS, so I ordered one that shipped from Hong Kong. The only downside of this is that the radio and steering wheel controls will not change the songs. You have to do that from the iPhone, but that doesn't bother me much.

If you want to know what the adapter looks like, go to ebay and search for "iPod dock bluetooth adapter" It literally plugs into the dock cable and becomes a bluetooth receiver.

I routed the Dice cable out through the bottom of the center console panel such that the dock connector is sticking out on the floor between the driver's seat and the center console. This allowed me to plug the adapter in there and still access it in order to unplug it if I needed to in the future, but I have never had to.

If anyone cares, I'll try to take some pictures and post them later.

Bluetooth Music
 

Pics would be great.
Could you be more specific on the unit you bought, I searched "iPod dock bluetooth adapter" and got 5 pages of options.

Thanks

Thanks for this. I hadn't thought of that. Why couldn't you buy a cheap Silverline or something, buy a Bluetooth adapter and store it all in the back of the car, where the CD changer is? It would still work, wouldn't it?

I bought a Tune 2 Air for my wife's A5 and that works really well, maybe stick one of those on the end of a Dice or Grom system.

When it comes to the brand, I found that it did not seem to matter. I originally bought 2 different ones (one was a USA made/USA designed version that is no longer in production, the one I am using is Asian unit) and both worked.

They are all supposed to use the Bluetooth specs and (theoretically) should be interchangeable. Here is an example that I am talking about but know that I have NO AFFILIATION with this unit and it is not the same one that I have as I can't find an auction with one exactly like I have, it is just an example. Bluetooth A2DP Music Receiver 30pin Connector for iPod iPhone Speaker Dock | eBay

What I did find is that in my wife's Nissan Pathfinder, I installed a USA Spec brand PA15-NIS iPod and aux adapter unit and when I connected both of the bluetooth adapters, it would not recognize them. So, I say this because it is possible that you could install a device other than the Dice Mediabridge and it may not recognize the bluetooth adapter. I am not saying that it won't but that I have seen instances with other devices that did not recognize it. That said, the adapter in the Pathfinder doesn't even recognize the 30pin to iPhone 5s audio/lighting adapter either, so it must just be oddly wired internally.

I will attach a pic of my holding the unit after pulling it out from between the console and my seat and then one of how it looks when tucked back in between the console and seat.

I just looked it up and I am almost 100% positive that the Tune 2 Air is just a name branded version of what I am using. Looks like it is nothing different. I just went the route of finding a cheap version on ebay is all.

See my post above. I would assume so, but I did run into a situation with a USA Spec unit where it does not recognize that anything is connected to the 30pin connection even though the bluetooth adapter is connected. Assuming that the same would not happen with a cheap Silverline, you could do exactly as you are describing.

@Terminator would you please forward a link to the bluetooth device you can purchase at Walmart. I have the AUX installed in my 05 4.4i with NAV and DSP is it as simple as connecting the bluetooth unit that would be purchased from walmart to the aux port via aux cable and voila??

iLive iAB13B Wireless Bluetooth Adapter: iPad & eReaders : Walmart.com

this setup is better (in my opinion) as it does not modify the car and makes the sound system available to any BT device, not just the iPhone...

you will need a microUSB power supply, the adapter needs power...

Will this setup work with the cassette option ?
 

I have the cassette business radio with DSP and cd changer. Yes CASSETTE . Or will I need the cd business radio ?

Thanks

what year/month is your car?

From my Vin decoder
 

My born on date 4/30/2003

Modellbezeichnung: X5 4.4I Ausführung: USA Typschlüssel: FB33 E-Code: E53 Karosserie: Sports Activity Vehicle Lenkung: links Türen: 5 Motor: M62/TU - 4,40l (210kW) Antrieb: Allrad Getriebe: automatisch Außenfarbe: Black Sapphire Metallic (475) Innenraum: Leder Dakota/schwarz (LCSW) Produktionsdatum: 30.04.2003 Werk: Spartanburg


Code Serienausstattung Standard Equipment S220A Niveauregulierung Self-levelling suspension S249A Multifunktion für Lenkrad Multifunction f steering wheel S302A Alarmanlage Alarm system S321A Exterieurumfänge in Wagenfarbe Exterior parts in vehicle color S354A Frontscheibe grün Grünkeil Green windscreen, green shade band S437A Edelholzausführung Fine wood trim S459A Sitzverstellung elektrisch mit Memory Seat adjuster, electric, with memory S473A Armlehne vorne Armrest front S533A Fond-Klimatisierung Air conditioning, rear S534A Klimaautomatik Automatic air conditioning S640A Vorbereitung Telefoneinbau universal Preparation f tel.installation universal S645A BMW US Radio BMW US Radio S661A Radio BMW Business (C43) Radio BMW Business (C43) S692A CD-Wechsler I-Bus Vorbereitung Preparation, BMW 6-CD changer I-bus S845A Akustische Gurtwarnung Acoustic belt warning S853A Sprachversion englisch Language version English S876A Funkfrequenz 315 MHz Radio frequency 315 MHz S992A Steuerung Kennzeichenbefestigung Control of number-plate attachment
Code Sonderausstattung Optional Equipment S205A Automatikgetriebe Automatic transmission S226A Sportliche Fahrwerksabstimmung Sports suspension settings S255A Sport-Lederlenkrad Airbag Sports leather steering wheel S312A BMW LM Räder mit Mischbereifung BMW LA wheels with mixed tires P330A Sportpaket Sports package S386A Dachreling Roof railing S403A Glasdach elektrisch Glass roof, electrical S417A Sonnenschutzrollo Tür hinten Roller sun vizor, rear door S430A Innen-/Aussensp. mit Abblendautomatik Interior/outside mirror with auto dip S441A Raucherpaket Smoker package S456A Komfortsitz mit Memory Comfort seat with memory S461A Sitzlehnenverstellung elektrisch hinten Electric seat backrest adjustment, rear S521A Regensensor Rain sensor S522A Xenon-Licht Xenon Light S555A Bordcomputer V mit Fernbedienung On-board computer V with remote control S650A CD-Laufwerk CD player S677A HiFi System Professional DSP HiFi System Professional DSP S761A Individual Sonnenschutzverglasung Individual sunshade glazing S775A Dachhimmel anthrazit Headlining anthracite S785A Blinkleuchten weiss White direction indicator lights S840A Hochgeschwindigkeitsabstimmung High speed synchronisation S926A vollwertiges Ersatzrad Spare wheel

your radio, C43, is capable of an AUX input. it is not prewired, but there is factory harness with the pins and the plugs that need to be inserted into the back of the radio. with specific length of factory harness you are limited to final location of the 3.5mm jack, factory prescribes the glove compartment area. if you need to run it further, you can built your own harness, under $5, or settle for factory harness for $30-70, depending on vendor.

the site sponsor, the ECS, has them...

Can anyone tell me why a silver line dice with a bluetooth transmitter attached wouldn't work?

Terminator,

Is that the same harness that you built ? Are there instructions to build the harness? I consider myself pretty handy and would like to try to do it myself. Thanks for you help !!!

The harness f your application will be similar to the harness that was built here (http://www.xoutpost.com/961741-post33.html) but the end with the factory pins and terminal will be different. instead of the male pins used in the link above, you will need to use female pins, and if your factory radio is missing the black 12-pin plug inside the big square plug on the radio, then you will need to get that black plug too... chances are that your radio has the black plug in there already and all you will need, just the three female pins... Those female pins are Digi-Key part # A28327-ND, and the factory part is 61130006663 with 1 foot brown wire already pre-crimped...

read the info in the link, and let me know if you think you can do it, and if you need further guidance - i do not wish to patronize you if you are fully capable nor do i wish to leave you hanging if you have any questions...

Terminator,

Any advice, hints , clues are greatly appreciated. I am going out to get the parts tomorrow. I'll try my best to document everything for others.


Thanks

good luck - keep us posted

Ok Im stuck
 

I build my Aux cable as per the pdf. I could not find a 300k resistor so I connected three 100K resistor in series. I've tried every pin combination and still no AUX.

Reading through the pdf it makes no mention to the SA661-A (Cassette) radio only the SA661 (cd) radio. Could it be possible this will not work with the cassette radio ? I have DSP by the way Would it matter ?

Thanks

what should matter, the AUX pins on the radio... were AUX pins on cassette radio open? on mine, with pre wired connector behind the screen, the pinout was incorrect on PDF, i had to switch my pins... try switching yours - there are only 3 wires

With the AUX input already installed and working for years, today I violated my principals
went to Walmart( I hate Walmart) I bought an iLive Bluetooth adapter $25.00. Took it home charged
it up, paired it with my iPhone, plugged it in, and WALA we've got bluetooth streaming and it sounds good.

feels good, right???

Which pins are the AUX pins ?

There are 3 wires (blue ,red, & brown, I'm assuming left , right & ground) in the white plug with the black 12 pin connector. They correspond to pins 2,3 & 8 respectively. My radio plays, cd changer and cassette player work fine without this connector plugged in.

Thanks

i see a 12-pin plug with white shroud... was there a 12-pin plug with black shroud? i suspect that your AUX inputs are not in that white plug (black plug, white shroud), but in the other one...

In photo 1 and 3 the white shroud are one in the same. I just pulled it out to show the black 12 pin connector. There are no other 12 pin connectors. In photo 1 the space to the left of the white shroud is empty.

you have both, the white and black shroud connectors? i could see only one...

one pic is from fmugur from this forum and the other one from someone else on bimmerforums...

I only have the white shroud. There is no black shroud or and other connectors on the wiring harness. So the AUX pins are on the right side where the black shroud should be.

the PDF instructions call for one of the harnesses to end in black connector which is to be inserted into the open slot... in case if the car has the black connector already present, then the pins are removed from the AUX harness and fitted into the black connector...


you need that black connector with black shroud in order to get your AUX activated... i guess, you do not have it... then you need to get one from a dealer... if i find the part number for connector and shroud, i will post it here... you could "hotwire" your pins to the open slot, just to see if the AUX will turn on... you only need 300 kOhm between left and right channels...

I'll try hot wiring the pins. Pin 9 (Aux L) Pin 10 (Aux R) and pin 4 (ground) correct ?

pin 3 - left
pin 4 - right
pin 10 - ground

yours is B1 harness from the PDF file...

Must be getting late I look at the top row of pins and thought the 1 was a 7 and was the 7 pin. Thanks Ill try in the morning and report back. Have a good evening.

It's nice to have options for an additional audio source that's for sure. :thumbup:

6 Disc CD player. (Not MP3)
Aux input.
Cassette player. ( Yes I do have custom mixed Cassettes)
Blu tooth streaming. Gonna try it with the iPad in a few days.

I guess that'll do for now........:rofl:

I tried hot wiring the pins with my home made aux cable and just 300K (three 100K ohm in series) ohm resistor. No Aux with either attempt. What do the .22 caps do ?

Thanks

cap will block DC current on the lines while pass the AC current (audio is AC current). when the AUX is not in use, the caps just hang there...

tell us, how exactly you are proceeding with the "hotwire"?

First attempt :

Since I had the female connectors on the cables. I plugged in my home made AUX cable to the the 3 pins , pin 3,4,10 . The Left Right and Ground. Nothing.


Second attempt:

Then I rewired three 100k ohm resistor in series and put a female connector on each end and connected pins 3 with one end and pin 4 to the other end. No Aux

Maybe the female connectors are touching and I'm shorting the connection ? I'll retry with electrical tape on the connectors

Tried with electrical tape on the ends of the connectors for insulation and still nothing.

What is the connector with the white shroud for ? I can leave it completely unplugged and my sound system functions the same with our without it connected.

i'll have to take a pic of mine - it is a bit cold out but i have a pending project in that area that i need to tackle rather sooner than later. mine is a BM53 but the plug should be the same... we need to get to the root of this

No worries. Take your time. Thanks for your help.

Aux install
 

I'm ready to do my Aux install this weekend, going to be tropical in CT (40F).
One question did you disconnect battery before installing? Thanks.

I didn't disconnect my battery in my several attempts to install the aux harness. I've had no issues.

Hmm I see a lot of people thinking about the ilive. Keep your receipt I went through 2 of them. The stupid power button messes up. You won't be able to turn it oFf. Not a deal breaker for some but I used to take mine when I went on travel. It will stay on for days with a full charge. I just got used to it being on then the artic cold hit this year walked out one day and it shut off but now the power button worked. Lol. I need to extend mine its hidden in side door. I need to move it to under center console like the oem pair button. pain in the neck if somebody else wants to pair to it. But it does remember like 5 or 8 phones.

i did not get to my radio to take the pics yet... hopefully, this weekend i will...

about the iLive unit... i have been using it for a few months now and {EDIT}don't{EDIT} have major issues... i do have some minor issues and those are with the fact that the unit has a battery...

i would prefer if the iLive did not have its own power source and was coming on everytime the car came on... i even disconnected the internal battery but the power switch on that unit is a momentary switch, which needs to be pressed only once to engage power - i hotwired the switch with a by-pass wire but it did not give me desired result...

so, now i am on a quest for the similar unit that either has NO battery or has a toggle or slide or otherwise fixed position power switch. if i find one, then i will leave the power switch in on position and "control" the unit by the power from the car...

This might work. Amazon.com: VicTsing Bluetooth 4.0 Music Audio Receiver Adapter NFC-Enabled Hands free Car kit with APTX Technology for CD Quality Sound Home Stereo: Cell Phones & Accessories

And another one Amazon.com: [New Release] BrightPlay - Portable Bluetooth Music Receiver and Hands Free Car Kit with aptX Technology: Car Electronics

first - apologies for the previous post where i missed the "DON'T" and thus misled folks into thinking that i had major issues with iLive - I do not have major issues with the iLive unit, it works fine... i just have to turn it on when i get in the car, as it turns off after sitting overnight and idling for nothing half a night on its internal battery. I would rather have it shut off with the ignition...

those two units on the Amazon look interesting, especially the second one that has that sliding switch...

I will be venturing into something like that...

Installed Aux
 

Installed Aux in my 2005 E53 3.0. Used Aux cable (not for nav) from Turner Motorsport ( Pn# 82110149390, $39.95, easy instructions).
Took 45 minutes. I had to disassemble the connector on the new cable because there was already a black 12 pin connector in the lower right of the radio harness block. Disassembly was easy, unlock connector and slide out pins.
Located the receiver above the cigarette holder in the ash tray.

Thanks for the help from the Xposters!!!

Funny how I finally see this thread. I've recently thought about doing something similar by finding a bluetooth aux receiver so I can plug it into my aux input. I've been looking at eBay ones like this:

A2DP Wireless Bluetooth 3 0 Stereo Music Audio Receiver for Car Aux Home Speaker | eBay

I like the battery on it so I can run no wires at all. Just hook it up in the glove box and tuck it away.

jmcgxx,

What radio do you have ? Do you have dsp ? CD ? CD changer ? Cassette ?
Can you tell me what pins you connected the wires to ?

Thanks

I have the CD Business radio. No DSP, No CD Changer, No Cassette.
The connector where you insert the pins ( mine had two wires in it to start) is black in the lower right of the block

See below for connections.

To flg8r90
 

I looked at your 1/28/14 post and I believe the pins are in the lower right of pic #2, pins #3 (red), #4 (blue) and #10 (brown).
My cable from Turner Motorsports actually had wires red/white, blue/white and brown/white.
Turner offers two versions, one for nav and one for non nav.

What cassette radio do you have ? Did you install the Aux yourself ?

jmcgxx,

Thanks, I've already tried the pins on the right side using my homemade Aux harness. I'm going to build another and give it a shot. If not I may break down and buy the Turner Sports version.

To flg8r90
 

Good luck!
I just add a bluetooth device (Amazon.com: VicTsing Bluetooth 4.0 Music Audio Receiver Adapter NFC-Enabled Hands free Car kit with APTX Technology for CD Quality Sound Home Stereo: Cell Phones & Accessories) thanks to Quicksilver.
It was plug/pair/play. For $25 it works perfect. I paired with an iPhone 5, very easy, works for music and phone seamlessly.

I have the Factory cassette that came with the vehicle.
I bought the Aux cable from the dealer and I had an indy
do the install using the instructions from this site.

iLive update,

Turns out the battery in the iLive doesn't last very long so I had to resort
to using the flashlight charger plugin in the glove box to keep it going. I had
an adaptor for the flashlight plug but I had to get one of these to power
and charge the iLive. USB Car Charger | reVOLT c2 Dual USB Charger | reVOLT c2 | by Scosche

Now, with the aux plugged in, and the power being fed from the flashlight
adaptor to the scoshe usb car charger, and the scoche car charger
charging the iLive when the key is on we're good to go.
I also turn the iLive off when I'm not using it but that doesn't mean
it will keep a charge. It's just my preference to turn it off.

One other quirk. Seems like The X gets confused when it's trying to find
the iLife bluetooth and so it won't connect with the iPhone bluetooth. So
what I found is that turning off the iPhone bluetooth and then turning it
back on connects everything. Now everything is in the glovebox neatly
wrapped up and hidden from site and all I have to do play whatever. :thumbup:

Soon I'll take the iPad out to the X and get it connected.


Edit: Well after about a month I returned the iLive. It worked but when it was on
There was a whine I could hear that occurred when driving. When it was off it made
other strange sounds. It had to go. So no Bluetooth for now.

Hey guys

How can i find out which setup i currently have so i can work out what cables etc i need

Im UK based, and dont have access to anyone local who can help me out

Thanks

Jono

Well, you can either look up your own options yourself, or, you can post more information about your ride and we see if we can help you out... So far the only thing that we know about you, is that you are in UK and there is nobody around you that can help out... honestly, you don't need to tell us anything personal about yorself, but if more info about your ride would be beneficial...

welcome to the forum - post some intro info about your ride, post some pics... not in this thread, make up a new one... create signature... We are a friendly bunch :)

Sorry about the abrupt post, i was sitting in the airport waiting to get home after a long trip away

I will start a new thread in a minute with some more details

:stickpoke
What about 8 tracks???

Another option is the Dice mediabridge now sold by Audiovox. The following is an Amazon price: Amazon.com : DICE MBR-1500-BMW MediaBridge with Bluetooth for BMW - Black : Vehicle Audio Car Mounts : Electronics I think it is the best thing short of changing out the Nav screen. The only negative is this option disables the CD player and you have to run wires from the rear to where the media bridge is installed near the radio. The instructions are very helpful with pictures and tech support is available. The following is a youtube video of the install: BMW X5 - Pt 2/4: Soundplicity iPod / iPhone / Android Kit Installation Instructions - YouTube

The following is a link explaining features: DICE Electronics LLC - DRIVE | LIVE | ACCESSORIZE - MediaBridge
They offer a DSP and non-DSP version. I purchased the Sirius radio option rather than using an app. Everything is controlled by existing radio buttons.

What about it???:dunno:

Guys,

Will a Dice DUO linked to a 30 pin Bluetooth adapter work? I can't see why it wouldn't?

Cheers
Tim

http://www.spider-foot.com/oem/big/H16-K_1.jpg

So I went and pulled this trigger for this bluetooth audio adapter. It was only $10. I've been using it for 1 week now for about 1 hour/day. The rechargeable battery is still good and the on/off switch really helps conserve battery power. I only worry about longevity on it and if it will last forever.

It connects to my phone in seconds once I turn it on. Sound quality is fine too playing from Pandora and 8tracks. Range is fine too as I've walked out of my car with my phone in my pocket without any interruptions.

Best of all, the only wire in the cabin is a short 6" one that goes to the adapter. It sits in the ashtray next to the aux input plug anyway, so if I got creative I could even get the whole thing out of the way.

This is why:

I'm a little confused on what you're saying, unless you're talking about the old 8-track tapes. I have no clue about those, they're older than me.

I'm talking about 8tracks, the music app. There should be no reason why the app doesn't work as it just is a music player through your phone. As long as the bluetooth adapter is A2DP compatible, it will play any type of music from your phone just fine.

And one more benefit that I've found out from using it. When I have a navigation app opened (such as Google Maps), the sound goes through the car speakers also and not through the phone speakers, which would sometimes happen if I had just my aux cable plugged in.

that is the unit I got from eBay to replace the iLive unit. This one has a slide switch, and I went a step further - I popped the case open and snipped the wires for the internal battery off and hardwired it. Now, everytime I start the engine, the BT unit goes into "ON" state, and the phone instantly connects to it (with iLive model, the unit stayed powered on with internal battery until the juice would run out and then I had hard time reconnecting to it). so far works fine...

:thumbup:

Nice hardwire Term...going to install the AUX this weekend. just wanted to know, Would i be able leave this device in the glove compartment where the AUX with be located, and still have no interference with BT reception/connectivity?
thanks :thumbup:

Wow, I need to check my comp for chatter, 3 posts back to back...
Unless your glove box door is lead or steel, you shouldn't worry about connectivity. Mine is "permanently" buried in center console.
What you should worry about, is alternator whine - there is no whine when BT runs off internal battery, but when you connect it to cigarette lighter power supply, or, in my case, hardwired to battery, there's alt whine. I have tried to eliminate it with a home made filter, but I need to recalculate the winds for inductor and the value for capacitor. Running BT strictly off battery is possible but not desirable. The whine is induced on the power lines, not on audio lines. A better quality power supply might rectify the issue.

I will try to attach a picture of the filter I made...

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You can delete your own triple posts you know. ;)

That is a very interesting solution to hardwiring the bluetooth adapter. I can't do that on mine as I'll be using it in multiple cars. Good to hear that it has lasted so far also.

Just as I thought. This is the reason why I have ended my search for another BT adaptor. At this point it's not worth the trouble....:(

Hey Term,

I like your homemade filter. Does it reduced the alternator whine? I finally got my tablet installed and I'm getting the alternator whine but haven't have time to look into it. Do you remember how many round you wrapped it?

WOW just on ebay and sooooooo many BT dongles out there from $10-$25.:dunno:
thanks for the pics Term...hows the filters coming along?

which would you fellas recommend to get? I will most likely leave the device in the glove comp, and luckily its not steel so im ok there...hahaha anyways, i think having to recharge the device might be a pain so i might have a buddy of mine hardwire it to cigg lighter or something like that.

:thumbup:

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:dunno: thanks

well, i have an error in my calculations of the frequency of the alternator whine - i estimated (did not have equipment to measure) the whine to be around 2-3 kHz, but i think it is much higher. The filter attenuates some of the whine on the lower end, when engine is just idling around 600-700 RPMs, but once the engine goes into road speeds, the whine is back... I am going to see if i can get the equipment at work to measure the spectrum of the whine, and then i will recalculate the filter - on the pictures i am missing 4700 mF capacitor, that is soldered into the filter... and I don't remember the number of winds - it is a 12 gauge speaker wire, about 20 feet long wrapped on the metal rod...

Both those dongles look fine. The second one is what Terminator and I have. I bought mine from spiderfoot on eBay though, and they have an online store which sells them cheaper. Shipping is usually from China so it will take some time though.

Subscribed. Would like to see if you guys can figure out the constant power wine issues.

Guys, a nice friend of mine offered to make a bluetooth "contraption" which he has wired up to an Edup bluetooth connector he has. His wires are for left/right/ground. This is going to sound silly, because he said it was simple, but how do I get the wires to go into the 3 pin aux cable at the back of my monitor? I would ask him but he's away right now and I'm hopeless at this sort of thing. PS be kind:) http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/28/esatu6yr.jpg


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Evidently I'm retarded. I think I should just buy the aux retro kit, plug it in and stick the bluetooth adapter into the 3.5mm Jack in the kit. Cost $A114 but easy and will just work. Heaps easier for me I think.


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Panna, you need a connector 61136931929, about $2-5, and three pins 61130006664 with wires.

total cost - under $10 ( I would say, about $3-4).

that all she wrote... lol...

see this post for a bit more details and PDF for factory schematics of the cable.

http://www.xoutpost.com/961741-post33.html

Beautiful work.


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What you've written up sounds like what my guy has done except I didn't have the connector, which I will get. Ta


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I'm still hopeless at this sort of thing though.


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Term, at the risk of looking even sillier, isn't the connector the one that is connected at the back of the monitor? Or does that connector connect into the existing one?


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the one at the back of monitor is housing female sockets, the one you should buy will house male pins... i learned what to do with male parts in close proximity to female parts when i was 17... :)
i am sure you will figure out which part goes into which one... lol...

I should have known better - there is an app just about for everything that one can think of... so, i found an app that gave some idea of the frequency of the whine...


as you can see, the whine is settled in the vicinity of 4-5kHz, with majority of the whine occurring at 4300 Hz +- 200 hz

Not now but sometime over this weekend i am going to do more measurements and calculate the values for the filter and try it again, just to see if it works or not...

the higher level of noise at the very bottom of the spectrum is from the engine revving...

Order them all. About $24 from BMW- we don't have the multitude of spare parts people over here that you guys have.


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wow... $24 for couple pins??? highway robbery!!! how much was for the whole cable??

$6 for the connector and $5 per wire with pins attached. $114 for the aux cable.


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:thumbup: that's what I just did yesterday Panna...it's easier than I thought. Just plug into the connector and hit MODE till AUX appears. Now only waiting for the bluetooth receiver to arrive.
I totally forgot i have a cigarette 12v plug tucked right up passenger footwell below the glove comp. I think im just going to run usb and leave it charged/plugged to that plug. Does anyone see any downfall to this method?

:( also, this job (INSTALLING THE AUX COSTED ME $140 USD..) yes ONLY the AUX from BMW $35....how you may ask....so in morning, car's cold all i did was move it into driveway(3yards) turn car off, left doors all open, engine off/key out. I then go begin the process of removing the unit, I see the connector so then i plugged AUX wire in, did the routing. Then i turn car on(not engine) to hit MODE and awesome AUX appears and continue the process of finding the perfect spot for the AUX input, THEN suddenly i hear the X die/shut/dead battery sound. :( tried jump starting nothing worked, called AAA , they said battery was toasted. Possible drained it or something happened during the process. Im thinking HOW no wires touched, I didn't remove any fuses, and none were burnt. The last battery also purchased from AAA was i think 09/10 so 4/5 years ago.

So sorry for the long long write up, can anyone shed some info on what happened? please. If i had done something wrong, it'll help prevent same prob for the next person does this OOOOhhhh so simple install. :bawling::banghead:

Can this be done on an 01 X5 w/ business CD and a changer in the truck, no NAV. I'm going to replace my deck eventually, but it's going to be a big undertaking since I plan on doing what I did before...running RCA's and power wire into the trunk to run an amp, my custom made subwoofer enclosure and an Android based double DIN deck...but in the meantime I'd still like to run Pandora until I have time to do the complete re-do.

I believe the only thing that cures alternator whine is grounding whatever device you have connected to the system. If you will notice anything that's tied into the system that is part of the audio system is grounded. Thats why you don't hear any whine normally. Bluetooth adaptors have no path to ground.

I couldn't find any grounding point in the dash so I tapped into the Business CD ground wired then run it through the relay with an override switch. The relay will kick in when my ignition key turn and while the car is running. The override switch only use when I need to turn on the table and the car is off.

Anyone in here know a place of grounding point on in the dash?

Sorry to hijack this thread.

But for a solution to Audio Streaming to the 2006 BMW X5, you can soldier in a A2DP Bluetooth 3.0 module, inside the BM53 radio module.
The radio module then powers the BT unit and audio out of the BT unit can be tapped into the Aux Input.

You then have 2 seperate BT receivers in the vehicle, the OEM one for Handsfree and the A2DP one for Music streaming.
I single phone can be paired to both units at the same time, you just uncheck "handsfree" when you pair the unit in the BM53 enclosure.

Sorry, not sure if this has been mentioned before.
I just found it to be the best and most simple solution that keeps everything OEM, no holes, no cables, just Plug and Play once you have installed the BT unit in the BM53.

EDITED: Changed the year of Vehicle.

Please elaborate how to do this. My X5 is a late 2000 model and from what I vaguely remember is that I need to upgrade to the an 03 or newer business CD before I even get the Aux Input option within the stereo.

No idea, mine is a 2006 Model with a business radio module.
The wiring diagram is available in this thread, you can clearly see the labelled pin outs.

Isn't there a time frame limit on these radios as to what ones are and aren't capable of aux input?

Maybe you should be retracting the 1999-2006 comment then, because from what I understand, it's not the range of the overall range in which this vehicle was made but more importantly the revision date/version of the software on the radio itself.

that was a reason i asked in one of the early posts for the date of the car built - according to the WDS the AUX is available from 09/2002 production...

there is also an issue with round and flat pins on the radio...

however, from what i remember, if the radio is acting up and you send it out to Baris in UK for repairs, he can flash/install/activate/update the old radio to have an aux...

search for Baris on this forum and on the bimmer forums, there should be more info about this...

I'd love to have the option of adding aux for $5, $10, etc but I'm not trying preserve the interior by any means. When the price outweighs aftermarket options ($100 gets you a decent BT stereo with more power than the stock stereo...and probably better reception) I stop entertaining mods like this. I'm sure shipping back and forth would outweigh the gains.

I went full aftermarket in my first X5...AVIC F90BT, ran RCA's to a sub amp, fiberglassed the stock enclosure to fit a 10". I want to do it again, I'm just hoping for a cheap alternative until I get off my ass lol

Ah, i see what you mean...
Well, it works in the 2006 with BM53 module
I did the software update myself ages ago, no idea if that made any difference though.

Initial post has been edited, sorry for the confusion.

I emailed Baris to see if he'll give instructions on how to update the software, assuming it's something I can do w/ my Dell GT1 style laptop.

No apologies, I just got all excited thinking I could finally do this vs buying a $100, used, 13yr old stereo because for some reason everyone still wants all the money for these things.

There are some other ways to get where you want to go. One is from Grom, another is the Audiovox mediabridge or the Dice/Audiovox silverline. Grom and Silverline are between $80-100 on Amazon. The mediabridge at about $150. I have the mediabridge. The mediabridge provides BT, AUX, USB and satellite radio as an addon if you want. It uses all existing radio and steering wheel buttons. All are available on Amazon.

So the factory Bluetooth is deactivated or ?..everything goes thru the media bridge?did you do the install yourself?i was thinking to buy the 70$+ aux cable from ECS but better pay more and have them all
Is this upgrade worth it if I'm looking to get the Dynavin N6 in the next few months?
Just asking cuz I don't have too much imagination on how electronics work and how they're connected..

I don't have factory bluetooth. I don't know the answer to that question. Yes, I did the install, not difficult, great directions and great technical support at least at that time (several years go). It took a about 4 hours because my CD player was in the rear. It has worked flawlessly, well worth it. The Dynavin was not available then. I have looked at the the Dynavin. For me it doesn't offer enough value. I would go that route if my radio failed. I suggest you weigh the benefits of each against the difficulty and time it takes to install each. If I were going to a Dynavin in a few months I don't think I would do anything. I would save the money and go to the Dynavin sooner.

All of which are almost as expensive as just getting an aftermarket deck, at which point I may as well just get off my butt and reinstall this again since it's all sitting in my garage.

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Baris replied to my email and wrote this, so I'm back to square one:

Hi
It can't be done via a laptop. And if it's an 01 year unit, then not even a firmware upgrade will enable the aux.
Kind regards
Baris

hey guys im still a little confused as to the BEST option for us poor mans model "cassette" .

i use iphone 5s and want handsfree calling and BT music streaming in our e53, its a 2001 3.0D German assembled,we dont have DSP or AUX in

please your help wil be greatly apreciated

If no DSP then it's simple.Dynavin N6 for the factory look navigation.itll run you about 700-750$ if I'm not mistaken...do a search on N6..that's what I want to do in my car but they have to figure out first a way for it to work with the US based DSP.

I have an 05 X5 with the Bluetooth module.

I can use my iPhone and it'll allow the voice to work over the car audio system - also navigation directions via my iPhone will play over the car audio too.

But I can't seem to play music? Is this right? I just got the Bluetooth working with my phone recently


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Correct.no music with factory Bluetooth..anything else works though..

That's crazy. Seems like the phone can talk to the car just fine. What gives?


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I believe the X is probably, based on the year, an older iteration of Bluetooth that didn't allow streaming. Bluetooth has been updated over the years to offer more features, though to upgrade the Bluetooth in your X would require a hardware update, not software.


2005 X5 4.8iS :: Imola Red w/LeMans interior

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Interesting... i have a so-called 12th generation BT unit... that unit did SMS on old razor phone, the messages were on main monitor, but i did not try to stream anything. Oh, btw, no more messages on monitor, even phones are getting smarter and smarter... i need to try it, just to see if it works on mine

I don't want to install an aftermarket unit, what's the best module to use?

Q, to aid your search, add your year, model, existing audio system [or codes from your build sheet if you have it] to your signature. Looking back through the thread, you appear to have an early [2001; what build date?] with a basic radio set up. The more info you provide, the better for posters here to help you.

Check post #108

I'm at work, so please forgive my laziness. I've got an early 01 X5 and I've verified w/ a couple aftermarket kit sellers that I in fact cannot install aux into my current Business CD player. I have a friend who gave me a cd player from an 01 X5, but the software version is like 50 or 51, so does that mean I'm able to swap it in and use it or is it based more on a certain year of stereo, and if so, what years should I be looking for on the production date?

Vehicle information
Type
Value
VIN WBAFA72030LN30200
Type code FA72
Type X5 3.0D (EUR)
E series E53 ()
Series X
Type GEFZG
Steering RL
Doors 5
Engine M57
Displacement 3.00
Power 135
Drive ALLR
Transmission AUT
Colour TITANSILBER METALLIC (354)
Upholstery STANDARDLEDER/SCHWARZ (N6SW)
Prod.date 2001-05-31
Close Options
Code
Description (interface)
Description (EPC)
S205A AUTOMATIC GETRIEBE Automatic transmission
S249A MULTIFUNKTION FUER LENKRAD Multifunction f steering wheel
S255A SPORT-LEDERLENKRAD Sports leather steering wheel
S261A SEITENAIRBAG FUER FONDPASSAGIERE Side airbags for rear passengers
S302A ALARMANLAGE Alarm system
S309A LM RAEDER/STERNSPEICHE 57 BMW light alloy wheel, star spoke 57
S354A GRUENKEIL-FRONTSCHEIBE Windscreen, green-tinted upper strip
S386A DACHRELING Roof railing
S430A INNEN-/AUSSENSPIEGEL AUT.ABBLENDEND Interior/outside mirror with auto dip
S438A EDELHOLZAUSFUEHRUNG Fine wood trim
S441A RAUCHERPAKET Smoker package
S459A SITZVERSTELLUNG, ELEKTR.MIT MEMORY Seat adjustment, electric, with memory
S473A ARMAUFLAGE VORN Armrest front
S508A PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC)
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
Code
Description (interface)
Description (EPC)
S548A KILOMETERTACHO Kilometre speedo
S555A BORDCOMPUTER On-board computer V with remote control
S661A RADIO BMW BUSINESS Radio BMW Business (C43)
S672A CD WECHSLER 6-FACH CD changer for 6 CDs
S818A BATTERIEHAUPTSCHALTER Battery master switch
S825A RADIO-STEUERUNG OZEANIEN Radio control Oceania
S864A SERVICE KONTAKT-FLYER UEBERSEE Dealer List Overseas
S880A ENGLISCH / BORDLITERATUR On-board literature, English
S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Dummy-SALAPA
S926A ERSATZRAD Spare wheel
S945A BERUECKSICHTIGUNG PREISABHAENGK. Dummy-SALAPA
S984A KODIERUNG WARTUNGSINTERVALL Maintenance interval encoding
Close Standard equipment
Code
Description (interface)
Description (EPC)
S413A GEPAECKRAUMTRENNETZ Luggage compartment net
S853A SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH Language version, Carrie English

Dice Media Bridge
 

My X5 has Bluetooth but for music streaming, I had a Dice Media bridge from another car I installed in place of the CD changer setup for BT media . It work great with steering wheel control as well. It sucks as a BT phone device but you can deactivate that function on your phone(at least Andriods can)

I have no it sucks associated with BT phone device---iPhone.