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milesz 02-08-2014 08:09 PM

Rear window wont go up
 
I started the x5 and the rear passager side window went down and wont come up. Is it the motor or the regulator or both?

Thanks

tmv 02-08-2014 09:23 PM

Most likely the regulator.

TerminatorX5 02-08-2014 09:31 PM

better yet, most likely the $2 plastic part... there is only one on the back but once it breaks, the glass is down... do not roll the window motor, it will tangle the cables and break the plastic pulleys. get the part from the dealer (51357011680), and have it fixed... check the DIY here at the HOW TO section

lhordmclain 02-08-2014 09:45 PM

I agree with Terminator x5 .. The plastic clip can be the culprit (I just recently experienced)

My door got fixed together with the dreaded door carrier issue... I heard it can happen too in summer time. It's one of the many ticking time bombs :)

One more symptom when the window is 50% or 100% down, when you close the door, You will hear some rattling of some sort.

Ricky Bobby 02-08-2014 09:50 PM

Regulator clips, replace all 8 and your window troubles should be minimized. 2 per door.

TerminatorX5 02-08-2014 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 979293)
Regulator clips, replace all 8 and your window troubles should be minimized. 2 per door.

i think the rear ones have only one per glass, while the fronts have two per glass... if we are talking about those plastic clips i mentioned earlier...

maybe not...:dunno:

Ricky Bobby 02-08-2014 10:23 PM

Oh you could be right for all I know, I bought 8 of them to have on my shelf in case my windows ever start making "funny noises" haha!

Cheap insurance for the windows in my opinion, I just figured if the front windows took 2 they all would so I bought 8 lll

JCL 02-08-2014 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 979293)
Regulator clips, replace all 8 and your window troubles should be minimized. 2 per door.

Don't slam the doors, especially if the glass is down, and your window troubles should be minimized.

milesz 02-09-2014 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmv (Post 979288)
Most likely the regulator.

That's what I was thinking.

milesz 02-09-2014 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 979295)
i think the rear ones have only one per glass, while the fronts have two per glass... if we are talking about those plastic clips i mentioned earlier...

maybe not...:dunno:

Thanks to all who replies. I will look into getting those clips. The strangest thing is that the window went down as soon as I cranked the engine. Is there any way to crank it back up until I get the clips?

Thanks

milesz 02-09-2014 11:09 PM

Ok, got the rear door panel off (PITA) and hooked a battery to the motor and the window when up. It seems that the problem is electrical and not mechanical. All of the other windows work fine but this one. Do they have separate fuses? Where are the fuses for the windows located?

Thanks

TerminatorX5 02-09-2014 11:26 PM

you can check the fuses F14 and F60 - they are not directly wired to the window switches, they feed the GM, supposedly for the rear window functions...

swap the windows switch - what if the switch is malfunctioning?

JCL 02-10-2014 03:51 AM

Check the wiring harness, including the flexible loom at the door jamb.

milesz 02-10-2014 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 979472)
you can check the fuses F14 and F60 - they are not directly wired to the window switches, they feed the GM, supposedly for the rear window functions...

swap the windows switch - what if the switch is malfunctioning?

Thanks, will do.

milesz 02-10-2014 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 979491)
Check the wiring harness, including the flexible loom at the door jamb.

I will also give this a try.

Thanks

milesz 02-11-2014 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milesz (Post 979628)
Thanks, will do.

All good but when I pulled 14 the siren when off.

TerminatorX5 02-11-2014 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milesz (Post 979736)
All good but when I pulled 14 the siren when off.

so, the fuses are good...

what is happening now? what is status of your situation?

sgrice 02-11-2014 04:56 PM

If you have ruled out the motor, switch, and regulator as causes, then consider that it might be a bad relay in the GM (general module). In my (and a number of other people's) experience, the rear windows would intermittently fail. Check out this link for a discussion. Also see posts #27 and 28 in this link for discussion and solution.

Hope that helps.

davewlee 02-11-2014 05:09 PM

It is the relay on the GM3 module. Had the same thing happen to me on my 2005 X5. See the site BMW General Module 5 (GMV, ZKE V) for info. He also sells the relays.

milesz 02-17-2014 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davewlee (Post 979847)
It is the relay on the GM3 module. Had the same thing happen to me on my 2005 X5. See the site BMW General Module 5 (GMV, ZKE V) for info. He also sells the relays.

I used a battery to roll the window up and unplugged the motor to leave the window in the up position for now.


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