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Gurjit 02-12-2014 06:16 PM

oem filter is hengst even on the Detroit diesel big rig engines and most Mercedes engines
same oem for my n62 4.8is

I change every 10,000kms which is around 3-4 months and have never seen a filter like that, last owner changed oil when the service indicator says to and that is a big NO-NO, when I did the valve covers I noticed burnt oil, probably because of stupid bmw intervals 15,000kms or once a year as bmw made the last owner believe

TiAgX5 02-12-2014 06:53 PM

My X got BMW dealer oil changes per the SII for the first 100k miles, after that it's been DIYed with dealer sourced filters and Mobil [1] 0-40 LL oil ($25 for 5 qt jug at Walmart), changed when the 3rd of the 5 green SII lights go out (60% of BMW stated oil life). Over 175k miles now. Dealer sourced air filters too.

JCL 02-12-2014 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gurjit (Post 980159)
I change every 10,000kms which is around 3-4 months and have never seen a filter like that, last owner changed oil when the service indicator says to and that is a big NO-NO, when I did the valve covers I noticed burnt oil, probably because of stupid bmw intervals 15,000kms or once a year as bmw made the last owner believe

I change every 24,000 km and I have never seen a filter like that either. I change oil when the service indicator says to (after I validated those intervals with 12,000/16,000/20,000 km changes on previous vehicles) and disagree with your assessment. I have no burnt oil. Or oil consumption. Or engine noise. I also use OE air filters so I don't have the additional dirt load that aftermarket filters can cause.

I don't call your maintenance practices stupid; it would be nice if you didn't call mine stupid or imply that I have been brainwashed by evil German engineers.

Tautog13 02-12-2014 09:49 PM

1 Attachment(s)
To close the loop as to BMW Dealer supplied...aka..."authentic" oil filters(walk in/parts counter purchase).

The oil filter packaging depicted below (N62) has been typical from my local BMW parts counter.

I am assuming everyone is in agreement that no "counterfeit" parts have made their way "inside" BMW dealer part supplies.......correct?

I am mentioning this for the sake of clarity only.

Best,
Charlie

e30cabrio 02-12-2014 09:57 PM

So would this not be a good deal?

BMW E39 540i M62 4.4L ES#1892623 Oil Filter - 5 Pack - Stock Up And SAVE! - 11427510717

Tautog13 02-12-2014 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by e30cabrio (Post 980186)
So would this not be a good deal?

No way to know for shure based on what others have posted in this thread. (discrepancies in packaging and/or product change/revisions)

I am NOT saying all non-dealer oil filter cartridges are bad....it just appears that within the confines of this thread.......at least be very careful where and how you purchase.


Best,
Charlie

JCL 02-12-2014 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tautog13 (Post 980185)
I am assuming everyone is in agreement that no "counterfeit" parts have made their way "inside" BMW dealer part supplies.......correct?

It is not common, but other dealers have been caught selling counterfeit parts. If the dealer is reputable you are pretty safe. It doesn't keep me up at night.

JCL 02-12-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by e30cabrio (Post 980186)

It may be a good deal. What you are trading off for lower cost is risk. The fact that it is labelled a Mann filter means very little. There is no performance spec.
If it is actually a BMW filter with a Mann label as well, then it is likely the same as you would buy from a dealer.

You have to decide if knowing the performance of the filter is important, or if it is just a commodity. Different people will have different opinions on that.

Tautog13 02-12-2014 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by four.8is (Post 979994)
My bad it is the Hengst same as the picture posted a while ago.

four.8is

Curious.......is the failed filter catridge in your original post/pic a Hengst filter?

Best,
Charlie

Tautog13 02-12-2014 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 980189)
It is not common, but other dealers have been caught selling counterfeit parts. If the dealer is reputable you are pretty safe. It doesn't keep me up at night.


10-4.......point taken......I should have known better than to say "no" counterfeit parts have made their way........inside dealer ;)

Thanks for the reality ck. :thumbup:


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