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Maruzo 10-07-2018 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1143634)
I've recently seen a thread where the steering u-joint was the source of problem but I believe it was a click click click type sound related to the wheel position.

What you are describing sounds like in the suspension.

Clarify: do you mean the steering wheel wobbles a bit left and right as you steer a constant radius or do you mean you feel an instability of some type as you steer


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Steering wheel doesn’t wobble left or right, it’s a lot more like a vibrating steering wheel. The vibration feels like it’s coming from th steering column

andrewwynn 10-07-2018 11:04 PM

There are a lot of things that can cause this, try to figure out the frequency.

If it's so fast it almost tickles your hand almost certainly tires (cupping etc) if it's slow like a wiggle it's likely suspension like ball joints if it's in the middle and changes a lot based on turning radius it's likely in the CV axle.


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andrewwynn 10-07-2018 11:05 PM

If you get a shudder ONLY when steering and it's a quick wiggle (shudder perfect word) and especially during a lane change then stops, it's almost certainly a ball joint.


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Maruzo 10-07-2018 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewwynn (Post 1143639)
If you get a shudder ONLY when steering and it's a quick wiggle (shudder perfect word) and especially during a lane change then stops, it's almost certainly a ball joint.


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The shudder goes away once I pull off from driveway. It doesn’t happen during regular driving, even when I change lanes

andrewwynn 10-08-2018 12:53 AM

You have to figure out exactly what condition brings it. Can you reproduce at McDonald's driveway? From red light ? Only turning right?
Often those wiggles are in the road but it sounds like leaning toward:

Tire cupping
CV axle related (cold grease)
Engine mount
Subframe mount.


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SlickGT1 10-08-2018 01:55 AM

Let me shine some light on this for you guys. I had this issue. You need to rebuild brake calipers. My bmw shop owner friend diagnosed it, and was on the money. Did the drivers side, problem when asaynon that side. Still have to do pass side, issue has now crept up on that side.

Best way to check is pick up speed, get on the brakes, sorta hard, turn one direction, then go oppsodite direction as you come to a complete stop. Should shudder almost every time.

270_BMW 10-08-2018 02:05 AM

When you say shudder, do you mean like a clacking sound? Or difficulties turning?

andrewwynn 10-08-2018 12:57 PM

Sticky caliper one side will definitely give you a steering shudder.


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Maruzo 10-08-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 270_BMW (Post 1143651)
When you say shudder, do you mean like a clacking sound? Or difficulties turning?

No, it’s a vibration of the steering wheel

If I turn really quick when I’m doing my 3 point turn, it vibrates a lot more

If I turn the steering very slowly, I can reduce the vibration

SlickGT1 10-08-2018 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Maruzo (Post 1143689)
No, it’s a vibration of the steering wheel

If I turn really quick when I’m doing my 3 point turn, it vibrates a lot more

If I turn the steering very slowly, I can reduce the vibration

Without brakes? Then your ball joint is gone.

Confirm is this makes sense.
Does not happen when wet/raining.
Does not happen as soon as you start driving, takes time to present itself.

Anyway, pretty sure it’s your balljoints.


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