Any RealOEM gurus in the house
 

Maybe it's the morning coffee, but can someone confirm if I'm on the right page

I want to replace all the screws that hold the front engine splash shield together
Was underneath last weekend and between mechanicals and body shop last fall, I'm got a hodegepodge or screws with non holding the Air Ducts.

I'll have to grab a look at it again, or maybe ones if it's screws or blind rivets holding the bottom of the air duct where it meets the engine splash shield.

RealOEM.com * BMW E53 X5 4.4i Air duct

Otherwise, I've got QTY 2 each of 13/14 and QTY 10 holding the front clip -- Item # 5 - Part 07119901311.

Does this look about right

You're at the right section. There're 3 different types of nuts/screws for that radiator air duct. #5, #13 and #14.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/k/m/197.png

You see where 10 and 5 meet on the left side of the pic.
The wife has the car and has gone to work.

There is nary a screw in that area/ I don't think it's blind rivets just due to how the splash shield needs to mount on/off that thing. I'm thinking it's all the #5 screws - with the right clip. Maybe the clip is not showing on this diagram for whatever reason

(front clip screws are 8mm and the 2 in the rear, are 10mm). That I do recall

If I'm reading what you wrote correctly...I'm not sure how you come up with a quantity of needing ten #5 (sheet metal) screws. The part database only calls for five of those screws (see QTY column)... I'm seeing 2 on the left side & 2 on the right side of the screen/shield (item #12 in the illustration) + 1 screw for item #4 (air duct to tranny).

Then for the larger #8 "hex head screw"...the QTY column lists four of them and they are used on the brake ducts (#6 & #7)...with both of those ducts using two #8s respectively...and probably in conjunction with the #9 (expanding nut) since the QTY column list four of them as well:

QTY 10 was just a number I ran off in my head - recalling I removed about 6 on the front of it, and there was 2 on each side where it was missing (the side that connects to the duct). I do not recall if the the 2 on each side was threaded uptop for a screw or not...

Hence the post. I'm not 100% sure the diagram/parts on the RealOEM is accurate, even though in theory in should be..

Sometimes the part database can be slightly off...especially when a single illustration is used for multiple models. :)

So, are there sheet metal screws (#5s) that run along the front edge of #12...and not just the two on each side that appears to be the way it's illustrated in the diagram?

Well, considering the hodgepodge of screws I observed.....all I recall was two 10MM on the rear, all Missing on the 2 per each side on the duct, and the front clips were a 8MM head but I'm pretty sure half of them were the wrong pitch.

I can't recall if it was a Hex head with a fat washer and whether it was a fine pitch or not...

I was close on memory.
For the X5 Wikipedia

It's 9 total on the 8mm.
5 on the Front clip. 2 on each side.

I had the same dilemma as all these screws were missing on my X5 too (About 4 screws holding the whole thing on). Those sheet metal screws don't attach into plastic - they always have a matching metal clip. If you look at the drawings posted above, you can see that Screw #13 fits into clip #14. Just so you know - those are bigger than the #5 screw and you can't interchange them (I tried...).

The front edge of part #12 has 5 of screws #5 along with 3 machine screws (10 mm socket, so probably M6 that fits into taped holes in the sub frame) and each side of #12 needs two of the #5 screws.

The dilemma is that the drawing doesn't show the clip that matches the #5 screws. If you have a hodge-podge of screws, you probably also have a hodge-podge of clips (or the clips are missing...).

I ended up getting the parts counter guy to figure it out - they have those clips in bins and he poked around until he found some that fit that #5 screw....

sorry to dig this one up, but im having the same problem , I cannot fathom out what screws I need, ( currently not got any, so will need them all) ive been to local dealer , and even he cannot fathom it out , ?
https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...mm-screws.html
ive looked at this picture, and checked out realoem , but both don't correspond
as I said even the dealers is confused :)
so far I got ,
5 clips on the front of the shield (number14) with, 5 number 08's (blue)
3 of number 16 (purple)
4 of number 5 (red)
and for the yellow ones I got 4 number9 and 4 number 8

wow that was hard, can any one verify this, so I know what exactly im going to buy??

cheers
steve (confused)

I can't tell you what's right but I can tell you what's on my car (and what I believe to be factory but who knows...).

I have only two type of fasteners on this shield - 5x M6 bolts (purple and red in reference image - BMW #07119903995) and 9x ST4,8X16 screws with washers (blue and yellow on reference diagram - BMW #07119901311).

It's possible the four brake duct retainers are slightly different (in fact RealOEM says they are) but I can't see any difference - or a PO has replaced them.

I wrote a Fluids DIY 4 years ago, in that thread I outlined the screws used for the splash guard...

https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...se-fluids.html



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https://xoutpost.com/attachments/x5-...-fluids-03.jpg

PNs are in this link...

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=51_3942

When you look at the diagram on realoem.com...remember that hardware is indentified by the encircled numbers and have their own index within the illustrated drawing to give an indication of what they are...also remember to look in the QTY column. When you look at the hardware index in the diagram along with the QTY listed in the column...and compare it with the image that has the hardware highlighted...you should come up with the list below when the diagram is compared to the pic:

• #5 - there are five of these in the diagram and they're blue in the pic
• #8 - there are four of these in the diagram and they're yellow in the pic
• #13/#14 - there are two of these (a screw and clip) in the diagram and they are red in the pic
• #16 - there are three of these in the diagram and they are purple in the pic

https://xoutpost.com/attachments/x5-...-fluids-03.jpg

cheers, you know the more I actually looked at it the more it confused me , im normally ok on real oem , ill check out the stealers, :)

...yeah...it's not the easiest illustration to figure out. And if you look at one of the other sites (like bmwfans.info)...they don't even have #16 pictured. Now, how does that happen? :dunno:

well, after a nice enjoyable day putting the beast back together I can say now that 2 out of the 3 purple bolts have snapped on the car , so a drill and tap will be in order.

Dealt with bolts conundrum couple months ago. Came up with this:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e2b1aff88f.jpg

cheers chief, will have a butchers when I get time , ordering MORE !!!! bits for the shed now :(

any idea what the clips are under the yellow dots?. my new cover hasn't got any of them ,

The five clips (often called speed nuts) are part #14 in the parts diagram and are what the five yellows screw actually screw into. The screws go through tabs on the lower front number and into these speed nuts.