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1iwilly 08-31-2014 12:01 PM

fuel trim question
 
hello to all
when monitoring the fuel trims what are the good reading to look for.??still chasing a lean condition after a few more adjustments now at idle i see more + than - i was seen before LT-1 is down from 3.8 to 1.5 LT-2 is down from 3.8 to 2.5 as of today ST-1 is more in the 3.1 to 0.7 at idle compare to before -1.5 to -.07 ST-2 3.5 to -1.5 this is after changing 2 pre-cat 02 and bank-1 sensor 2 giving code po141 heater malfunction.next trip out i'll take pic of at ildle from start up then after warm and while cruising.thanks

upallnight 08-31-2014 05:59 PM

ideally the ST and FT should be as close to 0 (zero). But anything less than 3 should be fine. Anything over 10 +/- will set off the SES light. Do you have a SES and CEL light on right now?

1iwilly 08-31-2014 06:43 PM

yes it was reading p2096 bank-1 and p2098-bank-2 and p1093-bank 2 i've clear the codes but haven't drove it since then.
Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1006886)
ideally the ST and FT should be as close to 0 (zero). But anything less than 3 should be fine. Anything over 10 +/- will set off the SES light. Do you have a SES and CEL light on right now?


upallnight 08-31-2014 07:26 PM

When was the last time the fuel filter was changed? Filter might be clogged and that is why both banks are lean.

1iwilly 08-31-2014 08:47 PM

The filter was change 2 month ago fuel pressure with the key on only is 52 and running is 52 under load it is 46

QUOTE=upallnight;1006894]When was the last time the fuel filter was changed? Filter might be clogged and that is why both banks are lean.[/QUOTE]

1iwilly 09-01-2014 10:02 AM

ok light back on code p2096-bank1/2098-bank2 freeze frame reading still learning to read the fuel trim.
CALC LOAD%=35.2
COOLANT=208
ST FTRM1%=4.6
LT FTRM1%=1.5
ST FTRM2%=3.8
LT FTRM2%=3.1

upallnight 09-01-2014 12:28 PM

P2096 Post Catalyst Fuel Trim System Too Lean Bank 1

Did you also replace the 02 sensor after the converter?

1iwilly 09-01-2014 12:45 PM

yes all 4 02 were change after intensive search on fuel trims -means rich and +means lean. i found a trick to look for leaks but still working on it. because here in kissimmee fl dam heat index 100 to 103 each day. is hard to work out side,
with the truck running and the code reader set to fuel trim. while watching the readings spray carb or brake or starting fluid around disa valve while still looking at trim reading for big changes i found a small one around the disa valve took it out put some silicone around it waiting for it to dry to re test.all the seals are new when the intake was remove.but something simple sometimes can kick your ass .

Quote:

Originally Posted by upallnight (Post 1006930)
P2096 Post Catalyst Fuel Trim System Too Lean Bank 1

Did you also replace the 02 sensor after the converter?


1iwilly 09-01-2014 04:21 PM

well i finally found a simple home made smoke machine will test this week link=
MAKE YOUR OWN LEAK DETECTOR W/ A JAR, TIRE PUMP & CHARCOAL. HOW TO MAKE A HOME MADE LEAK TESTER - YouTube
made mine out a small metal paint can using my 12volt air pump
also found this link for how to read and understand fuel trim=
Fuel trim can be a valuable diagnostic tool - Eastern Manufacturing

upallnight 09-01-2014 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1iwilly (Post 1006950)
well i finally found a simple home made smoke machine will test this week link=
MAKE YOUR OWN LEAK DETECTOR W/ A JAR, TIRE PUMP & CHARCOAL. HOW TO MAKE A HOME MADE LEAK TESTER - YouTube
made mine out a small metal paint can using my 12volt air pump
also found this link for how to read and understand fuel trim=
Fuel trim can be a valuable diagnostic tool - Eastern Manufacturing

This is a lot cheaper not unless you like Cuban Cigars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMok2y05jNE


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