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ard 01-04-2016 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RIHI (Post 1063803)
Biggest crock of s**t I've ever heard and this from a Master Tech?

Yeah...

IMO this story will have more chapters.

Quatro40 01-04-2016 10:27 AM

Hello, there is no oil in the expansion tank at all, coolant is clear. The picture is of the oil fill hole and the oil fill cap on the engine.

ard 01-04-2016 02:44 PM

^Agree.

The issue is coolant>>>>oil

Not oil into the coolant.

Just a random google quote:

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It really depends on just how hot the engine actually got, especially the head itself, but it doesn't sound good. The basis of the problem is that the engine, like the great majority of modern engines, uses an iron block and an aluminum head. The head is where most of the heat is generated and the aluminum helps manage that. Anyway, aluminum expands right at twice as much as iron does when heated, which forces the head to bow up (warp) between the head bolts. That in turn exposes the soft part of the head gasket to combustion gases and destroys the head gasket, and all that can happen within about a minute.

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Quatro40 01-04-2016 03:01 PM

Update - Oil is black no white or soapy deposit at oil pan. Water pump might be good, what he found was that my alternator was toasted and was over charging the system. The Water Pump was getting 19V and shutting down to protect itself. He tells me that a new alternator is needed and programming it to the car. Can I get a used one from a junk yard since a new oem one is upwards of $850 while one from previous x5's run around $150. What do you guys think, here is a pic of the results from the diag screen.

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...pst0sbzoxg.jpg

pshovest 01-04-2016 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Quatro40 (Post 1063997)
.......The picture is of the oil fill hole and the oil fill cap on the engine.

I understood the photo was the oil filler cap. My point was there are several ways for coolant and oil to mix. Head gasket is obvious, particularly with overheat, but oil cooler gasket is another possibility that's not so obvious.

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Originally Posted by Quatro40 (Post 1064031)
Update - Oil is black no white or soapy deposit at oil pan. Water pump might be good, what he found was that my alternator was toasted and was over charging the system. The Water Pump was getting 19V and shutting down to protect itself. He tells me that a new alternator is needed and programming it to the car. Can I get a used one from a junk yard since a new oem one is upwards of $850 while one from previous x5's run around $150. [/IMG]

Good news on the oil. If you had extensive water/coolant in the oil everything under the oil fill cap would be milky white. The drip on the torx screw at 12 o'clock and elsewhere looks like normal engine oil.

This is the first I've heard that alternators need to be programmed/coded. I'm almost positive my E60 and E70 alternators don't need it. A salvage yard unit should be fine. 19+ volts has probably cooked the battery also.
You'll have to keep an eye on the coolant level. Time will tell if the oil filler emulsion is coolant from leakage or simply condensation. Does X5 see lots of short trips?

Quatro40 01-05-2016 12:01 AM

pshovest who ever had this car never cleared the codes there were over 70 codes stored in the system.

A new battery was put in sometime in June 2015 right before I bought the car but it was never registered to the system, causin the alternator to keep pumping harder thinking it was the same dying battery.

After he cleared all the codes, engine fan was behaving normal, water pump was behaving normal, the SAV was driven for over 40 minutes and no overheating. Only fault that came on was for low battery voltage. He is keeping it one more day to see if the alternator really needs to go if it fluctuates the voltage output like it was doing before.

I'll know more tomorrow hopefully this took care of the problem and for now I don't have to spend the money on all those new parts.

Quatro40 01-05-2016 12:23 AM

Here are all the codes that were stored, none are present anymore apart from he water pump and low voltage. I only have had the car for the last 6 months. The pdc codes I know cuz I got rear ended, and the tailgate light I was searching for the thump metal noise and had taken it apart.

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...pszqzj81lk.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...psn6az2kte.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps1jmssdmi.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps0s43vkga.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...psapt85jky.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...psmnuwfofi.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...psusspt6le.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps8xfwjhf1.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/v...psu39agcdg.jpg

bawareca 01-05-2016 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Quatro40 (Post 1064031)

This is ridiculous! It is overcharging 19V at 0 engine RPM. Someone created perpetuum mobile ;) If the alternator is overcharging over 16v there will be codes for overvoltage in most modules.

X-cellent 01-05-2016 12:19 PM

Bad battery would be my first guess......

Quatro40 01-05-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bawareca (Post 1064178)
This is ridiculous! It is overcharging 19V at 0 engine RPM. Someone created perpetuum mobile ;) If the alternator is overcharging over 16v there will be codes for overvoltage in most modules.

Hi did you see my other pics, it shows undervoltage or overvoltage at most modules. Let me know what you think after looking at those. Thanks.


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