Possibly Damaged FRM Module After Battery Boost...?
 

Sup guys,

My battery crapped out on me yesterday, i was able to get a boost to restart it. However, immediately after driving off i got "Lighting System! Stop vehicle" warning. Now the power window, power door locks, interior lights, door handle courtesy light and Angel lights no longer work. In addition, i get a driver side door open all the time even though it is properly closed.

I took it to two indy shops, both ran a diagnostic. The first indy shop stated the comfort/convenience module needed to be replaced. When scanning he got the following codes, i don't know what any of them mean (unfortunately he was unable to reset the codes);

E5D8 Message (Dimmer, 0x202) incorrect receiver CID (K-CAN)
E75E No Message (dimming), 202
E2D5 Incorrect message (dimming, 202)
E097 Message, dimmer

The second indy shop stated it was a bad FRM and recommended that i reach out to BMW as there is currently a recall as confirmed by fellow board member on this post; Lighting System! Stop vehicle - Bimmerfest - BMW Forums

However, when i ran my vehicle (2010 X5) vin against the BMW recall site, I did not qualify for the recall.

Has anyone experienced this issue? Any feedback/guidance would be greatly appreciated. Also i believe there is a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) on this issue. Anyone know where i can access it?

btw, I took my oe battery to Advance Auto to have it checked out. Turns out i needed a new battery. I replaced it with a Car Craft Platinum AGM Battery from Advance Auto. I installed and registered it myself using Carly but still getting the same issues listed above.

Thanks in advance!

Same situation happened to the wife Xmas eve. $750 later new FRM and programming. She got the door message/seatbelt message as well. Would automatically go into park unless she had her seatbelt on.

Didn't know about the extended warranty. Thanks as it looks like I am eligible for reimbursement!!:woot:

There is no recall for this problem. BMW has extended the warranty for this part. It will not show up as a recall. Only when a customer complains about this problem, it will be taken care of for free if the vehicle falls between the production dates.

It is a SW (flash corrupt) error and not a hardware problem. I can reprogram the FRM modules back to "new" condition, but after it has been installed on the car it has to be coded.

This should only be done if the vehicle no longer qualifies for the Warranty Extension, like cars that have salvaged titles. Otherwise BMW will replace the FRM and update the software for free.

Long time no talk...

Good to see you still around. ;)

Or someone past the mileage limit...

Enter VIN and check here: BMW Owner Reimbursement Program

While at it, see if your vehicle applies for Drive Shaft reimbursement. Mine does.

Crawled under and took photos of driveshaft. It showed oil gunk (oil covered by dust/dirt).

Composed an email to local dealership SA, attached the photos and got initial approval for replacement. They will even provide a loaner!

Dropped off the vehicle to replace FRM today - in hopes they will find a gap and get it done by tomorrow (next available slot is Monday, actually).

Tech will inspect driveshaft while at it and officially approve replacement.

Then, on Monday, will get it replaced.

I'm guessing you have an eprom writer and a copy of the bin from from the frm.

Well, this is interesting subject. Although my X5 D has a salvage title i have received a letter for the extended warranty on the front driveshaft and another one for the airbag recall. Also a friend of mine received a full "customer satisfaction" treatment on his salvaged '12 X5 50I, no questions asked. So i guess there is no clear rule.

The heart of the FRM3 is one of the newest, most secured Motorola MCUs-9S12XEQ384 and all the data is stored inside, including emulated eeprom. Although there are ways to write into this processor, it is not possible to read out the content. But some smart guys have figured out a way to extract the data sets, so restoring is possible now.

Is default coding w/ NCSExpert all that's required?
Is this primarily a problem with FRM3's or are FRM2's also affected?

If the vehicle has been reported as salvaged, and BMW has a copy of that, it will not be covered. If it slipped though the cracks then who's to say its been salvaged.

Extending the warranty and recalls are two different things.

If they recalled the driveshaft, the will check and replace if needed. BMW usually has a policy to extend the warranty for that part also, but it is different in the case of the FRM, as it was not a recall, only an extension of the warranty.

Yeah, FRM2 bites the dust sometimes, but less often than 3. Coding with NCS expert should suffice.

They should have information for cars that have been salvaged at around 15k miles, right? If there were cracks I would have found them by far :yikes:

Quick Update:

After further research and feedback from fellow board members here and other forums, i decided to book an appointment with the BMW Auto Center in Port Chester NY to take a look at it. Anyone have experience with this service center? Based on the following SIB it appears my vehicle is covered. Also, page 6 indicates the primary cause is "Connect an approved battery charger/power supply" which may relate to the battery pack I used give my car a boost.

https://mega.nz/#!ctNgnTLR!Ryid5xjd2...qqIfWQ1DrgEAZI

I also found some good info here;

https://bmwtechnician.com/2016/06/29...module-failed/

Question, does anyone have or know where i can find a list of items the FRM controls, ie. Windows, locks, blinkers etc?

Often times, NCSExpert doesn't detect the FRM3 as a valid ECU. Tool32 may be able to communicate with it. If it can't, then you need to flash the eprom. See this thread

FRM3 Resurrection Thread

After flashing, you should be able to detect it in the ECU list, and communicate with it.

Attached 4 PDFs related to FRM, printed from Rheingold.
Knock yourself out :)

Thanks...

Update:

Sup Guys,

So i dropped off my X5 on Friday for my 9:00am appointment at the Port Chester Service Center. I was assigned (SA) Dava Somma and explained the issue i was encountering with my vehicle along with the SIB for the extended warranty on the Footwell FRM. Dave agreed that it sounded like it was an issue with the FRM. I was quickly given a loaner and told they would reach out to me once the diagnostics was done. Six hours later i received a call from Dave stated the car was ready for pick up. The issue was in fact the FRM and covered by the warranty. I returned the loaner, jumped in my X5 and all is well again. :thumbup:

Thanks for all the help!