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Z06Luke 01-27-2017 10:28 PM

35D not getting up to temp
 
Hey everybody, I bought my 2010 35d about 3 months ago and I've been very pleased with it so far. Today I started experimenting with the hidden menu and decided to monitor coolant temp on my way home from work which is about a 30 mile drive. The outside air wasn't terribly cold at 42 degrees Fahrenheit. My entire drive home the coolant temp sat right in the mid-sixties Celsius. I saw it break 70 one time after a hard acceleration up a Long Hill, and while coasting downhill it would drop into the fifties.

The entire 30 mile trip never resulted in a coolant temp that even reached 160* F. Do I possibly need to replace my thermostat?

Entropy 01-28-2017 02:50 AM

Yep. Bad thermostat. Happened to my 4.8 at 80k miles.

sgrice 01-28-2017 09:19 AM

Common issue - seems to have greater ramifications for diesels than gas - check it out here:
https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...-diy-pics.html

Entropy 01-29-2017 12:30 PM

Good thing it stuck open and not closed!

basilray 01-29-2017 07:40 PM

Had mine done about 2 months ago. Book time on the thermostat is about 3.5hrs.

Cost me $550 all-in w/ my Indy ($95/hr labor).

I'd have gone about it myself, but the EGR cooler sits right there over the thermostat on the M57. Just more than I wanted to chew off at home in my garage. It's easier on the gassers.

Z06Luke 01-30-2017 05:09 PM

Thanks guys, I'm ordering one today and I will do it myself.

Ozer 01-31-2017 09:26 AM

Its probably your main thermostat but... worth a try to look into EGR cooler thermostat first since it also fails and its so much easier and cheaper to change.
Part #8 on here: RealOEM.com - Online BMW Parts Catalog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhtfKliAkiU

danosll 01-31-2017 10:14 AM

reaching and maintaining operating temperature is crucial for proper DPF regeneration . bad thermostat is common and will result is blocked DPF. 35D doesnt have a thermostat on egr cooler but instead a divertor valve inside with a vacum actuator. make sure divertor valve moves freely. if your motor hasnt been reaching proper temp for a while due to bad thermostat. you probably have a seized divertor valve as well .you can lube it and free it up you have to remove egr cooler to change thermostat anyway.

Z06Luke 01-31-2017 03:13 PM

Thanks for the heads up, I will check that.

boostedX5SAV 01-31-2017 04:28 PM

Glad you got the answer about the bad thermostat. Off topic but do you have to keep accessing the hidden menu each time you want to check the coolant temp or is it shown forever when you unhide it the first time?

sgrice 01-31-2017 04:51 PM

Unfortunately, the hidden menu goes back to being hidden after the car is turned off. So the hidden menu access is only practical for infrequent checks. If you want easier access for freqent engine temperature checks, use Carly or Torque or a similar item.

garagelogician 02-08-2017 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilray (Post 1100638)
Had mine done about 2 months ago. Book time on the thermostat is about 3.5hrs.

Cost me $550 all-in w/ my Indy ($95/hr labor).

I'd have gone about it myself, but the EGR cooler sits right there over the thermostat on the M57. Just more than I wanted to chew off at home in my garage. It's easier on the gassers.

What Indy shop do you go to in Minneapolis?

Z06Luke 04-11-2017 03:38 PM

I forgot to post after I had done this. I got it completed in my garage in about 3.5 hours, and that includes a significant amount of time trying to figure out how to remove the cooling fan and, and figuring out where all of the EGR cooler bolts were. Doing it over again I think I could have it done in 1.5 hours. Knowing what I know after going through it, I would seriously question any quote (assuming they weren't 1st timers like I was) that specifies 3.5 hours of labor.

Not saying that anybody got ripped off, just trying to provide some information to help people ask the right questions in the future. As BMW owners, there are plenty of shops out there waiting to suck an extra Benjamin or 2 out of us.

daytonatrbo 04-12-2017 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozer (Post 1100828)
Its probably your main thermostat but... worth a try to look into EGR cooler thermostat first since it also fails and its so much easier and cheaper to change.
Part #8 on here: RealOEM.com - Online BMW Parts Catalog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhtfKliAkiU

xdrive35D doesn't even have that assembly. You are looking at info for the wrong motor/region.

daytonatrbo 04-12-2017 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z06Luke (Post 1107122)
I forgot to post after I had done this. I got it completed in my garage in about 3.5 hours, and that includes a significant amount of time trying to figure out how to remove the cooling fan and, and figuring out where all of the EGR cooler bolts were. Doing it over again I think I could have it done in 1.5 hours. Knowing what I know after going through it, I would seriously question any quote (assuming they weren't 1st timers like I was) that specifies 3.5 hours of labor.

Not saying that anybody got ripped off, just trying to provide some information to help people ask the right questions in the future. As BMW owners, there are plenty of shops out there waiting to suck an extra Benjamin or 2 out of us.

Figuring out how to get the fan out easily took as long as the rest of the job. I was just afraid to yank it out past the charge pipe.

danosll 04-13-2017 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danosll (Post 1100831)
reaching and maintaining operating temperature is crucial for proper DPF regeneration . bad thermostat is common and will result is blocked DPF. 35D doesnt have a thermostat on egr cooler but instead a divertor valve inside with a vacum actuator. make sure divertor valve moves freely. if your motor hasnt been reaching proper temp for a while due to bad thermostat. you probably have a seized divertor valve as well .you can lube it and free it up you have to remove egr cooler to change thermostat anyway.

just to reiterate . and there is a hinge on rad fan tab. (I didnt catch this my first time) to fold it in out of the way

Z06Luke 04-13-2017 11:52 AM

Yep, the driver's side tab hinges inward to clear the upper radiator hose. Both tabs just sort of clip into their mounts, and that wasn't obvious at first glance. Pressing just above them with a screwdriver will allow the fan to lift out.


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