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Hack213 01-23-2020 05:15 PM

Rear shock part numbers
 
Hey guys I own a 2008 e70 x5 4.8 without sport package without 3rd row with self leveling suspension I am having a hard time finding KYB part replacement compatible with my model I already contacted KYB headquarters in Illinois and they claim they don’t make any for self leveling suspension but as far as I am aware they all came with rear cylinder airbags!!


I called a local autoparts supplier and they claim they have KYB compatible with my basic x5


KYB 341728

KYB 341727

I do not want something better I just want to know if these are compatible ..

:(

Not even rockauto helps the local Beverly Hills bmw dealer looked up my car by last 7 of VIN and gave me these part numbers

33526781923

33526781924

Hack213 01-23-2020 11:12 PM

https://i.ibb.co/k6CMGxh/67513-CB6-F...1-A51-FFDD.jpg


In other words will these work ??

ard 01-24-2020 12:08 AM

Quote:

they all came with rear cylinder airbags!!

What do you mean by this???? Only cars with self leveling came with airbags.

Every car w/ 3rd row has this.


Very (very very) rarely a car without 3rd row might have been ordered w self leveling.


Based on the descriptions you posted, those KYB numbers will *not* fit your car. ie "Except self leveling".

Hack213 01-24-2020 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ard (Post 1176318)
What do you mean by this???? Only cars with self leveling came with airbags.

Every car w/ 3rd row has this.


Very (very very) rarely a car without 3rd row might have been ordered w self leveling.


Based on the descriptions you posted, those KYB numbers will *not* fit your car. ie "Except self leveling".

Thx for the reply I contacted a few vendors and got 50% will fit 50% won’t :(

ard 01-24-2020 02:01 AM

50% are wrong.

Hack213 01-24-2020 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ard (Post 1176325)
50% are wrong.

Ok scratch kyb can u confirm fitment on these

https://i.ibb.co/wNgYbL8/92-B8-AFB9-...9-D6-C2-B9.jpg

I only have self leveling option

ard 01-25-2020 12:27 AM

Because the market is comprised of lazy morons, they have equated "self leveling" with "3rd row". Now, we all know these are semi-independent options...but they are equating them


What is odd, is that you cannot seem to grasp this. Or that you are hoping and wishing this 'glitch' in how the resale market handles this option oddity can somehow me exploited to give you what you want. The "I have self leveling and no 3rd row...so they say it works for 'no third row'"...as if this technicality will result in a fitment success.


The sachs '315 crosses to a BMW '921... you need a '923.


Sucks, I know.


How many miles on the shocks, that they are now bad?

Hack213 01-25-2020 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ard (Post 1176440)
Because the market is comprised of lazy morons, they have equated "self leveling" with "3rd row". Now, we all know these are semi-independent options...but they are equating them


What is odd, is that you cannot seem to grasp this. Or that you are hoping and wishing this 'glitch' in how the resale market handles this option oddity can somehow me exploited to give you what you want. The "I have self leveling and no 3rd row...so they say it works for 'no third row'"...as if this technicality will result in a fitment success.


The sachs '315 crosses to a BMW '921... you need a '923.



Sucks, I know.


How many miles on the shocks, that they are now bad?


They aren’t bad I’m just trying to refresh suspension parts 106k on dash

Having a hard time understanding your 921 to 923

Hack213 01-26-2020 07:10 PM

Bump

ard 01-27-2020 12:36 AM

The bMW part numbers...instead of typing xx-xx-x-xxx-921 I just used the '921


IMO, the rubber bits in a BMW..isolation bushes- will need replacing before shocks. There are tons. The E70s really havent gotten there yet, where you see DIYs for massive restorations of all possible wear items....

robinasu 01-27-2020 02:14 AM

As far as I can tell, vehicles either have two types of rear upper shock mounts: short or tall. The air suspension and 3rd row seats vehicles seem to use the short mounts; others tall. The tall mounts accommodate longer shocks, the short, shorter shocks. Disclaimer: I have not bought shocks, yet, so you need to confirm- just trying to give you some background. I would just buy both sets and return the excess to be sure.

Hack213 01-27-2020 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robinasu (Post 1176632)
As far as I can tell, vehicles either have two types of rear upper shock mounts: short or tall. The air suspension and 3rd row seats vehicles seem to use the short mounts; others tall. The tall mounts accommodate longer shocks, the short, shorter shocks. Disclaimer: I have not bought shocks, yet, so you need to confirm- just trying to give you some background. I would just buy both sets and return the excess to be sure.

I think your right I bealive the sport suspension shocks are short and the basic suspension is taller

robinasu 01-27-2020 03:06 AM

Opposite
 
So I have air suspension and I checked the other day and I have the short upper shock mount. I believe the air suspension uses the short shock bodies.

Hack213 01-27-2020 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robinasu (Post 1176634)
So I have air suspension and I checked the other day and I have the short upper shock mount. I believe the air suspension uses the short shock bodies.

If you had to guess from the rockauto catalog which do you bealive would fit the rear

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robinasu 01-27-2020 04:51 PM

I forgot if you have 3rd row seating and I’m mobile right now. It’s hard to say- If you have 3rd row seating go to your car and raise the rear interior hatch, then pop off those reusable plastic rivets that hold the carpet to the side. Take clear pictures of the upper shock mount and post here. Without more info I have a hard time even guessing! The people who wrote the shock figment blurbs should be shot!

Hack213 01-27-2020 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robinasu (Post 1176662)
I forgot if you have 3rd row seating and I’m mobile right now. It’s hard to say- If you have 3rd row seating go to your car and raise the rear interior hatch, then pop off those reusable plastic rivets that hold the carpet to the side. Take clear pictures of the upper shock mount and post here. Without more info I have a hard time even guessing! The people who wrote the shock figment blurbs should be shot!

I have no 3rd row seating !!

robinasu 01-27-2020 07:22 PM

Bummer, that would have given us a little more clarity.

Ok, here is what I do, but don't shoot the messenger!

If you look at the Rockauto pictures of the KYB shocks.. one pair says with 3rd row, the other pair says without.

The "with 3rd row" shocks look shorter than the "without 3rd row" shocks in the Rockauto pictures. To my understanding there are only tall and short upper shock mounts. If you have air suspension and no 3rd row seat, and you assume my vehicle came built like yours (I have short upper shock mounts, are suspension, no 3rd row), and the Rockauto pictures are accurate, then you would have the short upper shock mounts and need the shorter shocks. In this case, I would go for the KYB's on closeout, which are the "with 3rd row seating" KYB option. I would probably buy the with 3rd row and without 3rd row shocks are return what you don't use. Rockauto might have restrictions on returning closeouts, but it's only a $60 buck loss if the short shocks don't work out.

Let us know what happens if you move forward!

Jack2soniyal 02-05-2020 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hack213 (Post 1176290)
Hey guys I own a 2008 e70 x5 4.8 without sport package without 3rd row with self leveling suspension I am having a hard time finding KYB part replacement compatible with my model I already contacted KYB headquarters in Illinois and they claim they don’t make any for self leveling suspension but as far as I am aware they all came with rear cylinder airbags!!


I called a local autoparts supplier and they claim they have KYB compatible with my basic x5


KYB 341728

KYB 341727

I do not want something better I just want to know if these are compatible ..

:(

Not even rockauto helps the local Beverly Hills bmw dealer looked up my car wax by last 7 of VIN and gave me these part numbers

33526781923

33526781924

The process of giving your car a good, thorough wash and wax will help protect your investment.

Hack213 02-05-2020 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack2soniyal (Post 1177393)
The process of giving your car a good, thorough wash and wax will help protect your investment.

And

ard 02-05-2020 02:33 PM

and someone is trying to up their post count so they can then, later, spam the site...

Hack213 02-05-2020 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ard (Post 1177399)
and someone is trying to up their post count so they can then, later, spam the site...

Report their post I just did it

Hit_Apex 02-12-2020 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robinasu (Post 1176632)
As far as I can tell, vehicles either have two types of rear upper shock mounts: short or tall. The air suspension and 3rd row seats vehicles seem to use the short mounts; others tall. The tall mounts accommodate longer shocks, the short, shorter shocks. Disclaimer: I have not bought shocks, yet, so you need to confirm- just trying to give you some background. I would just buy both sets and return the excess to be sure.

This info is correct. Options in the shorter shock are limited -I have only seen stock replacements. I have not researched KYB but if you are considering these sounds like you want OEM spec. Just know that you can swap out the top hats (mounts) for the taller version to be able to run the long. That's what I did for the B8's. Note, I do not have 3rd row and am not sure if the taller mount would interfere.

robinasu 02-12-2020 03:06 PM

Excellent
 
I bought the B12 kit and top hats last week. Thanks for the confirmation. I was still a little unsure. Also, I bought all the foam parts, except the foam bump stops. Do the B8 shocks come with the bump stops? I have conflicting information, especially for the front B8’s.

In the process, I also ordered the power flex poly bushings for the front suspension.

The B12 kit is on backorder until March. Unhappy face.


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