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marcx5 08-31-2006 01:49 PM

does 2007 X5 have Adjustable Ride Height option???
 
I don't see this feature mentioned anywhere, in the brochures posted here or price sheets or ordering guide. Adjustable ride height was previously offered on X5's (although not in my 2002 4.4 w/ SP), but i really want it if I'm going to buy the 2007 model.

I need Adjustable Ride Height for increased ground clearance in deep snow and some off road situations.

Can anyone confirm or offer thoughts about this feature for the new model? I don't see a button for it in the pics... maybe via i-drive???

cue03 08-31-2006 03:26 PM

since the X5 is not a "true" SUV, i don't think there will be adjustable ride height on the car. Just my thought. I hope I am wrong. My Range adjusts itself and keeps itself flat with its adjustable ride height feature. It is a neat feature and I would get it if it was available.

Curtis

DINANM3 08-31-2006 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cue03
since the X5 is not a "true" SUV, i don't think there will be adjustable ride height on the car. Just my thought. I hope I am wrong. My Range adjusts itself and keeps itself flat with its adjustable ride height feature. It is a neat feature and I would get it if it was available.

Curtis

Its available right now and has been since 2002. My 2004 and 2006 X5s both have ride hieght adjustable air suspensions. the new one will definately have it to but it will be a much more sofisticated system than the E53 X5 i currently have. Curtis do you even own an X5. How can you not know that is has been available already for like 5 years. By the way i just got back from the performance center off road course with the X5 and whoever says the X5 is no good offroad is an idiot. I did things with the X5 there that i nver thought were possible on and offroad. The offroad course they have there looks like something built for a Jeep and it took it like nothing.

mkaresh 08-31-2006 06:29 PM

It's not in the initial options list, but then neither is adaptive cruise. I think both will be delayed availability options.

marcx5 08-31-2006 08:56 PM

i see 'dynamic cruise control' listed in the options list of the 2007 x5 ordering sheet i have. but i do NOT see the adjustable ride height anywhere. in the old ordering sheets, it used to show as an option... but not now.

is it possible bmw could be so stupid to remove this feature? anyway to confirm?

mkaresh 08-31-2006 09:33 PM

Press previews have mentioned it, so I think it's coming.

Do you happen to have MSRP and invoice for the adaptive cruise? If so, do you know if it's a regular system or the newer sort that can go down to a dead stop?

Wasn't on this sheet:
http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/x...f?d=1155855746

marcx5 08-31-2006 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkaresh
Press previews have mentioned it, so I think it's coming.

Do you happen to have MSRP and invoice for the adaptive cruise? If so, do you know if it's a regular system or the newer sort that can go down to a dead stop?

Wasn't on this sheet:
http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/x...f?d=1155855746

i don't know how it works and it's only listed on the ordering guide under order code 544. but there is no price associated with it. it is listed as a standard option.

mkaresh 08-31-2006 10:41 PM

Thanks.

Someone suggested that adjustable ride height only makes sense on an SUV. Which might be true. But the Mercedes SL has it, probably for a purpose other than off-roading.

marcx5 08-31-2006 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkaresh
Thanks.

Someone suggested that adjustable ride height only makes sense on an SUV. Which might be true. But the Mercedes SL has it, probably for a purpose other than off-roading.

i don't care if they call this an SAV, that's the same thing as an SUV... it's just marketing. this thing is designed to do well in bad weather, mud, and some off road conditions and absolutely SHOULD have adjustable ride height. even cars benefit from increased ground clearance in snow storms...

the porsche cayenne even gets greater ground clearance than a HUMMER H2 with it's adjustable ride height. Hummer should be embarrassed about that.

i would really like to find a way to confirm this for the 2007 x5... otherwise they shouldn't even bother selling these imo (ok, that may sound drastic, but in some ways, it's true).

zerochief 08-31-2006 11:08 PM

:nanana:
Quote:

Originally Posted by DINANM3
Its available right now and has been since 2002. My 2004 and 2006 X5s both have ride hieght adjustable air suspensions. the new one will definately have it to but it will be a much more sofisticated system than the E53 X5 i currently have. Curtis do you even own an X5. How can you not know that is has been available already for like 5 years. By the way i just got back from the performance center off road course with the X5 and whoever says the X5 is no good offroad is an idiot. I did things with the X5 there that i nver thought were possible on and offroad. The offroad course they have there looks like something built for a Jeep and it took it like nothing.


Yes, I agree with your off-road experience with the X5! Recently I ventured on a fishing trip in the Sierra. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED, although my friend traveling with me was skeptical. Not anymore!

mkaresh 08-31-2006 11:40 PM

Cars often launch without a full array of options to give initial quality a bit of a boost. And I mean that in the generic and J.D. Power sense. Some companies do delay potentially troublesome options until the people who will fill out the J.D. Power surveys have already bought their cars.

Even without the survey to contend with, it's easier to learn how to build a new vehicle when there's only one suspension to deal with.

BMW, like any car company, pays attention to what the competition is doing. Every other German SUV has adjustable ride height. So chances of the new X5 eventually having it are around 100%.

marcx5 09-01-2006 12:20 AM

i don't want it 'eventually', i want it right away. it's ridiculous for them to offer before, and then take it away... and then return with it again! stupid.

mkaresh 09-01-2006 12:29 AM

This is nothing. Visit a Mercedes forum to read some major grumbling. Many options are in short supply when those cars launch.

cue03 09-01-2006 08:16 AM

Sorry for not realizing that the existing and previous years X5 had the adjustable ride height. I do not own a X5 and spoke out of line. I am very interested and will more than likely get the new X5 when it is realeased. I want all the bells and whistles myself including the adjustable ride height.

I currently own a '04 Range Rover. This new X5 will be replacing it. :)

Curtis

scott27 09-03-2006 07:54 AM

E70 will come with optional (??? - it depends on model / package/ market) rear-axle only air suspension with self-leveling. It will be available from launch (end of March) in Europe, so I'm sure US market is getting it too.

Mind that E70 has almost identical suspension to E65 7-series: front - double wishbone, rear - IV Integral, Adaptive Drive (Dynamic Drive active roll stabilization + EDC Electronic Dumper Control) with Sport mode, self-leveling rear air suspension.

So, no adjustable ride height with also front-axle air suspension for the time being.

Adaptive Drive with Sport mode + self-leveling rear air suspension + Active Steering is really more than enough for ultra-dynamic driving without compromising ride comfort; for soft off-roading; for towing; for loading the car; etc.

E70 (despite some features are different / missing) is definitely not inferior to E53 but much superior. It's a pity Dynamic xDrive will not be offered right now (will debut in X6; E70 will likely get it with the mid-lifecycle facelift).

marcx5 09-03-2006 11:21 AM

bmw should be ashamed if they don't include adjustable ride height. the one area this car sucks (and I know, i've owned it for 5 years), is ground clearance in deep snow and other similar situations. in a boston winter, a 2 foot snow storm (or even less) can easily produce drifts that are challenging for the x5 because of ground clearance. an extra inch or more can often be helpful and i don't see why they would take it out. even the cayenne has it for years and produces more ground clearance than a hummer 2!!

also... what exactly is 'dynamic xdrive'??

xdrive 09-04-2006 11:58 PM

Just want to share some views over here.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=163803

I guess BMW simply realised that some of its customers are very understanding and don't mind putting up over US50k to purchase a "new generation" car which has a nice "old" gadget removed (and consider it a good thing:dunno: ). To be honest, people have been asking from various forums (and marcx5 is obviously one of them) that whether this E70 still has the adjustable ride height function (since people doesn't see any reference to it from the printed materials). In other words, this feature is important and should not be neglected when the E70 is launched in Oct/Nov, IMO.

rooster328 09-05-2006 12:36 AM

even without it a lot of ppl will still jump all over it at lauch, if u can't live w/o it just buy another car

marcx5 09-05-2006 10:05 AM

no doubt that all magazines will mention this as a lacking feature if it's not in the cars to begin with.

what exactly is this rumored 'dynamic x drive'??

JCL 09-05-2006 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcx5
bmw should be ashamed if they don't include adjustable ride height. the one area this car sucks (and I know, i've owned it for 5 years), is ground clearance in deep snow and other similar situations. in a boston winter, a 2 foot snow storm (or even less) can easily produce drifts that are challenging for the x5 because of ground clearance. an extra inch or more can often be helpful and i don't see why they would take it out. even the cayenne has it for years and produces more ground clearance than a hummer 2!!

I think you are way off base. Scott27 explained above that the choice was made to base the suspension design of the E65 on the new E70. That will pay off in improved handling over the E53, additional features like active roll stabilization, lower cost (as it was already developed), greater reliability (it has already been tested) and so on. So, you don't get to lift up your new E70 like a Hummer or Cayenne. I guess dialing in ride height of the 7 series wasn't a design objective. I think they made a great design decision for the E70, from what I have read so far, and subject to actually driving it when it is released.

You have the option of buying a nice used E53, or any one of the many competitive products that have adjustable ride height.

Or, you could just try a vehicle with X-drive and see if it goes any better than your five year old E53 without X-drive. You may be surprised.

X5_shopper 09-05-2006 06:31 PM

The "arm chair" management here has been amusing to say the least. :rolleyes:

I'll reserve my criticism until after I drive the finished product.

marcx5 09-05-2006 06:42 PM

i have no doubt that the car will drive amazing... better than any other SUV. but in certain situations SUV's often need MORE ground clearance and it either CAN or CAN NOT raise it's height to get that clearance. it has nothing to do with how the car drives.

xdrive 09-05-2006 09:24 PM

Agree with you about the ground clearance point. To enable the X5 to drive like an E65 7-series or even an E60 M5 is one thing, but don't forget that the X5 is still a SAV. In other words, it still should maintain the features of a SAV. But it seems a bit late now. Guess potential buyers will simply have to take it or leave it and like what rooster328 said "even without it a lot of ppl will still jump all over it at lauch, if u can't live w/o it just buy another car".

DINANM3 09-06-2006 02:25 AM

im sure hieght adjustment will be available with in a year of its deput at most. Why wouldnt they. BMW wants to sell cars and make money. Either way they are gonna sell a shit load in the begining. i already know of 5 or more people that are definately gonna pony up 70 k for one with in the next year

apetrov1x5 09-06-2006 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DINANM3
Its available right now and has been since 2002. My 2004 and 2006 X5s both have ride hieght adjustable air suspensions. the new one will definately have it to but it will be a much more sofisticated system than the E53 X5 i currently have. Curtis do you even own an X5. How can you not know that is has been available already for like 5 years. By the way i just got back from the performance center off road course with the X5 and whoever says the X5 is no good offroad is an idiot. I did things with the X5 there that i nver thought were possible on and offroad. The offroad course they have there looks like something built for a Jeep and it took it like nothing.

please post some pics. was offroading yesterday - X5 rocks!!

FS990 09-13-2006 06:55 AM

http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/x...f?d=1158098762


If you check the tecnical info, there is only the self levelling rear air suspension available....

FS990 09-13-2006 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdrive
Just want to share some views over here.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=163803

I guess BMW simply realised that some of its customers are very understanding and don't mind putting up over US50k to purchase a "new generation" car which has a nice "old" gadget removed (and consider it a good thing:dunno: ). To be honest, people have been asking from various forums (and marcx5 is obviously one of them) that whether this E70 still has the adjustable ride height function (since people doesn't see any reference to it from the printed materials). In other words, this feature is important and should not be neglected when the E70 is launched in Oct/Nov, IMO.


http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/x...f?d=1158098762


here is the bulletin..self-levelling rear air suspension

marcx5 09-13-2006 09:14 AM

absolutely ridiculous that they do not have adjustable ride height offered in this car. almost every other (if not all) luxury suv offers it... and it DOES make a difference in certain conditions such as deep snow.

StumpyPete 09-13-2006 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcx5
absolutely ridiculous that they do not have adjustable ride height offered in this car. almost every other (if not all) luxury suv offers it... and it DOES make a difference in certain conditions such as deep snow.


Can someone lock this thread to posting? - we have all read the pros, the cons, the whys, the why-nots, the maybes and the maynots.

I personally am fed up to the back teeth of this topic. It's pretty well established that we aren't going to get it in the 2007 model year and no amount of posting is going to change that.

marcx5 09-13-2006 10:58 AM

there is no reason to lock a thread... just stop reading it if you don't want to, geez!

X5_shopper 09-13-2006 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StumpyPete
Can someone lock this thread to posting? - we have all read the pros, the cons, the whys, the why-nots, the maybes and the maynots.

I personally am fed up to the back teeth of this topic. It's pretty well established that we aren't going to get it in the 2007 model year and no amount of posting is going to change that.

Come on Pete... Haven't you ever had some plans foul up and your wife didn't let you hear the end of ? :)


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