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dencoop 05-23-2007 08:48 PM

If you want the Nav/Bluetooth and Rear DVD: there is another version...
 
What I mean to say is the following....

If you are thinking about the Navi, Bluetooth and DVD you can do it aftermarket for much less.....

Just went to my local Auto toy shop and here is what I was told....

I can have a Brand New Pioneer Navi Unit W bluetooth that I can control through the iDrive screen for a factory look for only $1,300

If I want the rear camera, they want an extra $300

For the 2 rear DVD monitors built into the headrest another $700

Plus I need to purchase some unit for $600 that will plug into the idrive system and allow all of the other items///DVD, Navi etc...to be controlled....

Plus at no charge they will allow you watch the DVD on the main iDrive screen if you want....

Total = $2,900 vs.@ Invoie Tech pkg + rear DVD = $4,005 (not including Blutooth)

so you can save about a grand for amuch better set up...

You get 2 7" screens in the back...very clean set up.
You get the option to watch DVD in the Front iDrive Screen
You get the Pioneer Navi w/Bluetoth harddrive that plugs into the iDrive screen and is a much nicer Navi then the factory Unit (lots of feat. including real time traffic)
You get Rear Camera.

I think this is a really good deal...

I saw the whole system installed in an RR Sport and it looked very Nice....:thumbup:

xnsf 05-23-2007 08:54 PM

if this is for the e70...i don't get it...how do you integrate the nav using bmw's own proprietary system?

personally, i'd go for the tech package, and add that aftermarket DVD if i really needed it

dencoop 05-24-2007 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xnsf
if this is for the e70...i don't get it...how do you integrate the nav using bmw's own proprietary system?

personally, i'd go for the tech package, and add that aftermarket DVD if i really needed it

I dont know how they do it...he told me it can be done and that they have done it on other iDrive cars...

He showed me a sample on the RR Sport, he stated that they have smoesort of a system as well and I saw with my own eyes how the DVD and Navi worked through the factory front screen...

He stated that the iDrive system would work the same way.....

chris24 05-24-2007 09:22 AM

The bluetooth comes with the tech package. I have it and it works well.

I agree with xnsf. I'd rather BMW's system then something aftermarket that might mess with the computer. Too much going on in this car to have some aftermarket electronics screwing things up worse than the other potential issues the car can have on its own.

If you're set on doing it, I'd make sure you see it in an E70 before you buy it and become this guy's guinea pig.

dencoop 05-24-2007 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris24
The bluetooth comes with the tech package. I have it and it works well.

I agree with xnsf. I'd rather BMW's system then something aftermarket that might mess with the computer. Too much going on in this car to have some aftermarket electronics screwing things up worse than the other potential issues the car can have on its own.

If you're set on doing it, I'd make sure you see it in an E70 before you buy it and become this guy's guinea pig.

I agree with you 100%....He said he has a an '05 530i (E60) that will have the same set up done next week and he will call me to stop by and take a look....so I once I see it with an iDrive system ill make up my mind...my car is still in status 112 so i can add to my order.....

By the way are any of you BMWCCA members...

I am getting $1k back after I pick up my SAV at the PCD.:thumbup:

chris24 05-24-2007 10:13 AM

you're saving $1000 because of the BMWCCA membership, on top of whatever other discounts you negotiated? I'm not a member, but might become one if you get that kind of savings, for my next vehicle......

dencoop 05-24-2007 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris24
you're saving $1000 because of the BMWCCA membership, on top of whatever other discounts you negotiated? I'm not a member, but might become one if you get that kind of savings, for my next vehicle......

Thats right !!!

You get $1k on X5/5er
You get $1.5k on 7er
You get $500 on 3er/X3/Z4

Plus you can get the same amounts on CPO cars US/ED/PCD Delivery
Lease or Buy.

You just need to be a member for at least 12 full months before your purchase....so if you are thinking about getting another BMW sighn up at www. BMWcca.org

Membership is only $40
and includes the Roundel Mag every month

Use my BMWCCA # when you join #A364158

Thanks....

chris24 05-24-2007 10:52 AM

I need to check my paperwork because my salesman mentioned the BMWCCA when I picked up the car. I don't remember if he was just mentioning that I could join or if I got a free membership or anything like that, but I'm definitely going to do it. Even the lifetime membership is less than the 1k you saved, good deal...

I'll use your # when I do it though..

dencoop 05-24-2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris24
you're saving $1000 because of the BMWCCA membership, on top of whatever other discounts you negotiated? I'm not a member, but might become one if you get that kind of savings, for my next vehicle......

Thats right !!!

Simple as that...you get the money as extra bonus....

Few people know about it...except us Die hard BMW fans.....

By the way this is not my only and first BMW....

we picked up the E90 last year via ED...

We did the whole factory tour...etc...in Munchen....:thumbup:

chris24 05-24-2007 11:32 AM

I thought about doing the SC pickup on this one, but after all the issues reported on this site about the X5, didn't want to get stuck somewhere halfway to NY... I've heard that and the Germany delivery are awesome though.

Wish I knew about this when I had a 3-series in '99 (unless it didn't exist then?). I worked for a German company at the time that had done away with their BMW discount program literally a month or two before I started with the company (not to mention I was an impatient college kid who wanted the car immediately after I graduated instead of waiting till I actually started the job......).

I typically lease, so the thousand bucks doesn't mean a whole lot in the payment, but who am I to waste money.....

acedeucy 05-24-2007 05:44 PM

I would definitely watch yourself when trying to tie into the iDrive system. This is why INViSiON builds their products "Stand alone". The BMW iDrive Telemetry is extremely sensitive!

If I walked into an aftermarket location they would probably tell me the same thing. Yes the aftermarket location can do it but how well does it work is what you should be asking them and also show me on another customer's car or show me a demo before they slice in and you get an "OOPS!" At least get a reference or testimonial.

rodybmw 05-25-2007 01:43 PM

There are several companies that make interfaces for other BMW models that would allow any video source (including a NAV system) to be displayed on the iDrive screen. However, I don't know of any so far that would allow you to use the iDrive knob to actually control the aftermarket devices such as the NAV system. Even iPod interfaces have to "pretend" that the iPod is the CD changer to be able to interface with and be controlled by the iDrive system, this includes both aftermarket AND BMW's own OEM iPod interface. BMW's USB factory installed interface does not have this limitation, but even BMW could not come up with a post production or dealer installed iPod interface that could be fully integrated and controlled by iDrive without pretending that it's the CD changer.......so I doubt that the system that they are quoting you is in fact integrated in iDrive and controlled by the iDrive knob. Most likely they are just installing an A/V switcher that has its output interfaced with the iDrive's LCD screen and it just simply allows all the different video sources (including iDrive, NAV system, and DVD player) to share the LCD monitor and plays back the audio using the car's audio system. In this scenario when you want to use the NAV you would switch the input to NAV and would see the NAV info displayed on the iDrive screen, but you would still have to use the NAV system's controller to access it, not the iDrive knob. When you want to use the iDrive again you would have to switch the input back to iDrive in order to see it displayed on the screen.

I would never get an aftermarket NAV, even if it did have better features than the BMW one because I like the integration of the OEM system. I would still love to find out the details about what they actually mean when they say their system "works" with iDrive cars. Do they mean that it truly integrates with iDrive and can be controlled with the iDrive knob, or is it simply using iDrive's LCD screen to show the NAV information? I suspect it's the latter case.


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