People who go crazy over barely audible noises make me laugh. Don't you fools listen to music? :bustingupPeople criticize build quality like they are accustomed to driving a rolls lol The build quality is superior to the competition and that is all that really relevant to me!

I know, the paint is much better on a Ford, as well as the nav system and voice recognition, as well as overall reliability.

I think your comparison made sense considering the topic was "use of plastic etc". Sadly i agree with you on paint quality. I am sick of seeing those stupid commercials for ford with the voice recognition tho, I never use my voice rec....it is as stupid as people who walk around with bluetooth in their ears lol I don't think anyone buys german for paint and tech. For that matter if you buy for paint/tech/reliability you'd be crazy not to buy Japanese..its what they do best.

Actually, Ford now beats all the Japanese on quality now, except for Lexus:

Ratings | J.D. Power

Not as good on three year reliability, but Lincoln beats everyone except Porsche:

Ratings | J.D. Power


The main reason I went BMW with the X5 was I wanted good handling. I just wish my BMWs were as reliable as my Fords.

Good point. I still cant get over not buying ford stock back at a buck n change. I was interning at Merrill Lynch a year ago and I will always remember the day when one of the FM's talked a client out of taking a position up in ford when it was 2 bucks.:rofl: No no he says trust me you don't want to do that.:rofl: I bet he is no longer with them.

Hindsight is 20/20. You don't know the client's tolerance for risk and a year or so ago, that would have been a risky move.

Damn I hate to find this thread. I have a 2007 GS350 I'm getting rid of for squeaks and rattles. I'm afraid all luxury cars are like this. I have a Jetta and had a Honda Accord with no rattles or squeaks :(

My 2007 and 2008 - no rattles.
My 2010 - One is corrected and two more appear. 5000 miles.

Have the same problem over the other side of the pond........am picking up my replacement vehicle this friday which I have been assured has no rattles........

Would like to get a poll going at what spec of car is causing the most rattles/squeaks......SE or Sport........

I have an SE....sounds like a metal tin with lego inside.......and two of my friends have SE's....again all have been back to the garage for the same issues......another two friends of friends have the Sport and no problems at all.......I would be interested to see if this is a common occurrence....

So Far

SE - 3
Sport - 0

That poll won't work in North America, where those two model designations don't exist. Not sure about the rest of the world, but many configurations are country-specific in terms of what the build consist is.