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hans 09-25-2007 03:23 AM

Mobile HTC P3600i in E70
 
Does any one can give me info on the
compatibility of Mobile phone /DPA HTC P 3600i in the new X5 E70

I can not get it working

golfer4life 09-25-2007 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by hans
Does any one can give me info on the
compatibility of Mobile phone /DPA HTC P 3600i in the new X5 E70

I can not get it working

That phone is not on BMW's list of compatible phone (at least in US). If it's not on their list, they will not even look at the issue. I have a $600 dollar Treo and the BT connection drops in the middle of the call. Phonebook will not even download. I paired my daughter's $100 dollar Motorola Razor (which mind you is on their list) and the phone paired instantly, downloads phone book and the BT stays connected while the phone is inside my house and the X5 is in my garage. The call quality was also great. It's a shame because I have a $100 dollar BT headset and it pairs and works well with any phone but BMW has to tell me which phone will work best on my $62K SAV BT car kit. My solution, I borrowed my daughter's pink Razor on our last weekend's family road trip. Nice to have that X5 BT functionality when you're on a 2 hr drive, placing calls using voice commands.

Quicksilver 09-25-2007 03:48 AM

Interesting:

There are members here (including me with a Treo 700P) that have Treo's and the BT connection is just fine and the phone book downloads just fine as well. :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfer4life
That phone is not on BMW's list of compatible phone (at least in US). If it's not on their list, they will not even look at the issue. I have a $600 dollar Treo and the BT connection drops in the middle of the call. Phonebook will not even download. I paired my daughter's $100 dollar Motorola Razor (which mind you is on their list) and the phone paired instantly, downloads phone book and the BT stays connected while the phone is inside my house and the X5 is in my garage. The call quality was also great. It's a shame because I have a $100 dollar BT headset and it pairs and works well with any phone but BMW has to tell me which phone will work best on my $62K SAV BT car kit. My solution, I borrowed my daughter's pink Razor on our last weekend's family road trip. Nice to have that X5 BT functionality when you're on a 2 hr drive, placing calls using voice commands.


golfer4life 09-25-2007 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
Interesting:

There are members here (including me with a Treo 700P) that have Treo's and the BT connection is just fine and the phone book downloads just fine as well. :thumbup:

I believe you. It pairs well with my old Treo 650, which was a very bad phone to begin with. I have 2 Treo 750's and both would not work properly. My wife never liked the 750 anyway so this might be a good excuse for her to get an IPhone. :rofl: What's funny is, I told the SA about this and without even documenting the issue, flat out told me that if the phone is not on the list, there's nothing they can do about it. Now that's customer service.

jasonrhcastle 09-25-2007 09:18 AM

The 750 works much better with WM6 on it. Also, if you are still running WM5, the paid version of jetwaremobile seems to do the trick. I tried it with the free trial version with no luck. However, after reading about some members on the e60.net forums talking about how they bought it and it worked I took the plunge. Do the trick.

Too bad I gave the 750 to my wife in lieu of my iPhone. Works well with my 5er iDrive. For what its worth...

Quicksilver 09-25-2007 11:19 AM

He's probablly correct. I don't believe trying to get bluetooth hardware to communicate together especially if a device hasen't been tested by BMW is a customer service issue necessarly. The problem may have so many twists and turns that it can be difficult to acertain where or what is going on when trying to get them to handshake. I have heard that some SA's will look into it but when mine didn't work at first i didn't even consider asking them about it because it wasn't on the list.

What I did do is post the question as some have right here on X5World and I learned that some BMW's have bluetooth equiptment that is compatable with some phones while other BMW'S have bluetooth equiptment that is compatable with still other phones and so on and so on. I did get good answers based on my vehicle and it worked out. In some cases though it dosen't.

As with all questions of this nature it is best to do as much research as possible then provide as much information as possible when posting. That way anyone with the setup you have may be able to pass on some useful information.



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Originally Posted by golfer4life
What's funny is, I told the SA about this and without even documenting the issue, flat out told me that if the phone is not on the list, there's nothing they can do about it. Now that's customer service.


~KaiFy GaiwanY~ 09-25-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
He's probablly correct. I don't believe trying to get bluetooth hardware to communicate together especially if a device hasen't been tested by BMW is a customer service issue necessarly. The problem may have so many twists and turns that it can be difficult to acertain where or what is going on when trying to get them to handshake. I have heard that some SA's will look into it but when mine didn't work at first i didn't even consider asking them about it because it wasn't on the list.

What I did do is post the question as some have right here on X5World and I learned that some BMW's have bluetooth equiptment that is compatable with some phones while other BMW'S have bluetooth equiptment that is compatable with still other phones and so on and so on. I did get good answers based on my vehicle and it worked out. In some cases though it dosen't.

As with all questions of this nature it is best to do as much research as possible then provide as much information as possible when posting. That way anyone with the setup you have may be able to pass on some useful information.


will sony ericsson phones be compatible with the e70 ? :popcorn:

golfer4life 09-25-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ~KaiFy GaiwanY~
will sony ericsson phones be compatible with the e70 ? :popcorn:

List of compatible phones from BMWUSA website

http://www.wireless4bmw.com/phones.html
http://www.wireless4bmw.com/phones2.html

As jasonrhcastle indicated, WM6 will fix my Treo 750 issue, this was also verified by my telecom resources. Unfortunately, the official upgrade (Treo 750 AT&T version) is not available yet, only hacks that are floating around the web. I've done a lot of testing for the last few days and it looks like most regular cell phones with BT capabilities that are not on the BMW list will work with the E70 car kit with little problems. Only if you have a PDA, Smart Phone or Pocket PC unit that you will experience problems if it's not on the "BMW compatible" list. I tested an HTC 8125 Pocket PC (not on the list)with a WM6 hack and it seems to work fine.

So going back to hans' original posting, the HTC P3600 (not on the list)was originally released with WM5 but if you have the one with the WM6 OS, then it would probably work on the E70.

Please take this with a grain of salt, I'm just providing info based on research and personal testing. The bottom line is, if BWM says it's not compatible, expect a hit and miss BT connectivity.

~KaiFy GaiwanY~ 09-25-2007 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer4life
List of compatible phones from BMWUSA website

http://www.wireless4bmw.com/phones.html
http://www.wireless4bmw.com/phones2.html

As jasonrhcastle indicated, WM6 will fix my Treo 750 issue, this was also verified by my telecom resources. Unfortunately, the official upgrade (Treo 750 AT&T version) is not available yet, only hacks that are floating around the web. I've done a lot of testing for the last few days and it looks like most regular cell phones with BT capabilities that are not on the BMW list will work with the E70 car kit with little problems. Only if you have a PDA, Smart Phone or Pocket PC unit that you will experience problems if it's not on the "BMW compatible" list. I tested an HTC 8125 Pocket PC (not on the list)with a WM6 hack and it seems to work fine.

So going back to hans' original posting, the HTC P3600 (not on the list)was originally released with WM5 but if you have the one with the WM6 OS, then it would probably work on the E70.

Please take this with a grain of salt, I'm just providing info based on research and personal testing. The bottom line is, if BWM says it's not compatible, expect a hit and miss BT connectivity.

those phones are for USA , what about us ppl in the gulf ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

golfer4life 09-25-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ~KaiFy GaiwanY~
those phones are for USA , what about us ppl in the gulf ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

good question. I can't seem to find another list outside of U.S. sorry.:dunno:

hungcvp 09-25-2007 10:30 PM

My WM6 HTC Universal is not in the BMW list but it works flawlessly with my E70. If a phone is not in the list that means "not tested", not "not compatible".

golfer4life 09-26-2007 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by hungcvp
My WM6 HTC Universal is not in the BMW list but it works flawlessly with my E70. If a phone is not in the list that means "not tested", not "not compatible".

From BMW's and phone manufacturer's point of view, they are considered not compatible. They can test all the phone they want but it the test results are not favorable, it will not make it on the list, thus making it not compatible. Just like my Treo 750. Once the Treo 750 is officially upgraded to WM6, then it should make it on the list. You just confirmed my theory that WM6 Smartphone/Pocket PC units will most likely work with the E70 although it's not on the list. They may not have tested it but being WM6 OS seems to be one of the reason for compatibility.

Vad 09-26-2007 02:01 PM

As far as I know, the correct communication between the phone and the car through bluetooth is provided by SAP - SIM access protocol. Please make sure that your device supports this protocol, otherwise, the BT will not download your contacts into the car memory. My HTC s200 was not working under WM5 as BT hands-free, but after some upgrades it works smoothly with WM6 (SAP supported). Take a look at www.xda-developers.com.

Out of curiosity, I have not seen any cradles compatible with BMW or MB for communicators with mini-usb. It looks like some OEM producers are missing market opportunities :confused: .

Regards, Vadim.

hans 09-27-2007 02:07 AM

Thank you all !!
When trying to handshake the E70 with p3600i, the E70 ask for password which must be similar to the password in the P3600i The funny thing is that i have no password for my bluetooth in the p3600i (phone)
Later i will try again and let you know
I like the THC P3600I with Skype etc.

golfer4life 09-27-2007 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hans
Thank you all !!
When trying to handshake the E70 with p3600i, the E70 ask for password which must be similar to the password in the P3600i The funny thing is that i have no password for my bluetooth in the p3600i (phone)
Later i will try again and let you know
I like the THC P3600I with Skype etc.

For mine, the password is 1234. You enter both passwords on the phone and Idrive.

hans 09-29-2007 03:42 AM

HCT P3600i in E70
 
I have tried again and again

Used a password 1234 in the car and every time i get the message "try again"

Results "0"

Thanks for all the advice

I like the car and the PDA


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