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LeMansX5 12-22-2007 07:11 PM

BMW xDrive trademark filings
 
Following are latest filings:
Future X5s may have some new logos on side. ;)

xDrive20
xDrive23
xDrive25
xDrive30
xDrive35
xDrive40
xDrive48
xDrive50
xDrive55

sDrive18
sDrive20
sDrive23
sDrive30
sDrive35

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vinuneuro 12-22-2007 07:19 PM

What's sdrive?

rh71 12-22-2007 10:54 PM

noob question - why are they skipping the dots between the numbers?

marcx5 12-23-2007 12:13 AM

second pic looks photoshopped. 1st pic maybe too, but unsure.

CGSTL 12-23-2007 12:21 AM

Aren't those from the X6 photo layout?
Quote:

Originally Posted by marcx5
second pic looks photoshopped. 1st pic maybe too, but unsure.


AzNMpower32 12-23-2007 12:44 AM

Note to BMW: Stop changing things for the heck of it!

That's all.

vinuneuro 12-23-2007 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzNMpower32
Note to BMW: Stop changing things for the heck of it!

:withstupi

LeMansX5 12-23-2007 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcx5
second pic looks photoshopped. 1st pic maybe too, but unsure.

Nothing is photoshopped. They are from official X6 pics

LeMansX5 12-23-2007 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinuneuro
What's sdrive?

for non-AWD cars with DPC.

dr.jay 12-23-2007 03:22 AM

Debadge Immediately

canamx5 12-23-2007 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr.jay
Debadge Immediately

:iagree: That looks so cheeeezy!

trueX5er 01-03-2008 03:20 PM

It's terrible. So, if the X5 3.0si model is still around it will be called the X5 XDrive30? Ugh.

LeMansX5 01-03-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trueX5er
It's terrible. So, if the X5 3.0si model is still around it will be called the X5 XDrive30? Ugh.

Still around is the big question. ;)

scott27 01-03-2008 06:02 PM

X5 xDrive30i
X5 xDrive30d
X5 xDrive35d
X5 xDrive48i

:thumbup:


Now with DPC included our AWD system is ready to be fully marketed . even appearing in the model nomenclature. Similar case with sDrive.

Few examples of new badging:

535i
xDrive

335i
sDrive

Z4 sDrive35i

X3 xDrive35d

trueX5er 01-03-2008 06:29 PM

^
Wow, that is very confusing. It makes no sense.

(pardon me asking, but what is DPC?)
edit: nevermind, it is bmw's SH-AWD. But I still can't fathom how stupid one must have been to come up with naming so confusing....:dunno:

X5audi 01-03-2008 08:09 PM

Why the hell are they doing this? In the normal "i" models (335i), RWD is implicit and doesn't need to be put in with the model name (sDrive??? WTF???). The same is true for the SUVs---there's nothing wrong with the current system! If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

DSE 01-03-2008 08:18 PM

Wow. What an awful mouthful and stupid decision. The "sDrive" and "xDrive" part seem completely unnecessary, and they sound confusingly similar when you pronounce them.

rh71 01-03-2008 08:45 PM

I'm surprised the acronyms are in English and not of German origin. Or mayhaps the 2 languages are really similar.

Fastbuck 01-04-2008 04:14 AM

Now is a good time to buy stocks in fishing line!

X5love 01-05-2008 12:12 AM

This sucks.

It sucks it sucks it sucks.

They're trying to do their version of the whole Audi quatro thing... but...

IT SUCKS!

trueX5er 01-05-2008 01:24 AM

Scott27, any more info?

LeMansX5 01-05-2008 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trueX5er
Scott27, any more info?

On what?

X5audi 01-06-2008 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5love
This sucks.

It sucks it sucks it sucks.

They're trying to do their version of the whole Audi quatro thing... but...

IT SUCKS!

LOL! :rofl:

HOWEVER... as for that... we Audi fanboys don't really say "quattro" in our car names. I don't go around saying, "I have an Audi S4 Cabriolet quattro." It's just known. You have to have at least one car with quattro to be truly accepted into any Audi forum... unless, of course, it's an A3; the 2.0T FWD is far better than the 3.2 AWD.

trueX5er 01-07-2008 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5
On what?

if bmw will actually use this on all their cars...and when.

LeMansX5 01-07-2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trueX5er
if bmw will actually use this on all their cars...and when.

Yes, that is the plan. X5s with DPC are supposed to have this logo. Other cars will also have as Scott mentioned.

trueX5er 01-07-2008 12:43 AM

but how could "3-Series sDrive35i" be, or sound, better than 335i?? just an example.

scott27 01-07-2008 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trueX5er
but how could "3-Series sDrive35i" be, or sound, better than 335i?? just an example.


There will be no 3-series sDrive35i. :rolleyes:

But:

335i
sDrive

or

335i
xDrive


Also eg. Z4 sDrive35i, X3 xDrive30d etc.



Quote:

Originally Posted by X5audi
HOWEVER... as for that... we Audi fanboys don't really say "quattro" in our car names. I don't go around saying, "I have an Audi S4 Cabriolet quattro." It's just known. You have to have at least one car with quattro to be truly accepted into any Audi forum... unless, of course, it's an A3; the 2.0T FWD is far better than the 3.2 AWD.


Most Audi cars sold in Europe are FWD!

CGSTL 01-07-2008 09:55 AM

Needless and confusing. Sorry to be critical of a brand I'm so fond of...

Kind of reminds me of moving from an elegant design to the flame surfacing concept.

trueX5er 01-07-2008 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott27
There will be no 3-series sDrive35i. :rolleyes:

But:

335i
sDrive

or

335i
xDrive


Also eg. Z4 sDrive35i, X3 xDrive30d etc.

What :confused: :confused: ??
Why does the Z4 go through the bizarre naming program, but the 3-Series does not to an extent? Why do you need "sDrive" (which sounds very similar to "xDrive") when it is implied that it is RWD? the "i" in "335i", and the absent "x" implies it is also RWD. The "x" implies it is AWD.
All BMW SAV are equipped with xDrive. It is implied in the "X" of "X5" or "X3". So why does it need to be redundant?
And while "3.0" gave somewhat of a hint about the engine, what good does "30" do? It has nothing to do with the vehicle.

Sorry for the rant, but this is ridiculous.

scott27 01-07-2008 07:20 PM

sDrive = RWD with active rear electro-mechanic differential

Not all model will get this configuration. Especially not in Europe.

xDrive ... Perhaps X1 won't be AWD exclusive. :thumbup:



BMW also want to expose xDrive TM more , putting the badge on the vehicle. Same case with sDrive.

Engine displacement codes are becoming a bit irrelevant with the turbo tech.

How would you badge several models with same engine yet difererent power output?

Perhaps 330i, 330ii, 330iii :rolleyes:


With all new niche models on the way BMW needed to rethink the engine + drive nomenclature.

CGSTL 01-07-2008 09:51 PM

Now I understand a little bit better... Thanks.
Quote:

Originally Posted by scott27
sDrive = RWD with active rear electro-mechanic differential

Not all model will get this configuration. Especially not in Europe.

xDrive ... Perhaps X1 won't be AWD exclusive. :thumbup:



BMW also want to expose xDrive TM more , putting the badge on the vehicle. Same case with sDrive.

Engine displacement codes are becoming a bit irrelevant with the turbo tech.

How would you badge several models with same engine yet difererent power output?

Perhaps 330i, 330ii, 330iii :rolleyes:


With all new niche models on the way BMW needed to rethink the engine + drive nomenclature.


JCL 01-08-2008 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trueX5er
Why do you need "sDrive" (which sounds very similar to "xDrive") when it is implied that it is RWD? the "i" in "335i", and the absent "x" implies it is also RWD. The "x" implies it is AWD.
All BMW SAV are equipped with xDrive. It is implied in the "X" of "X5" or "X3". So why does it need to be redundant?
And while "3.0" gave somewhat of a hint about the engine, what good does "30" do? It has nothing to do with the vehicle.

Scott answered most of it, but a couple of clarifications:
  • sDrive doesn't mean RWD; I would have said it means DPC, but Scott's definition is likely more precise. It is implied that not all RWD vehicles will have it
  • i generally means injection, not RWD. That isn't always true, but it is most of the time. It has nothing to do with RWD.
  • 30 certainly has something to do with the vehicle, it is the engine capacity in decilitres, before we get into the whole marketing approach of "add 5 for turbo" or "subtract 2 for derated"
I would have guessed what was coming, but Scott's hint of a RWD (or FWD) X, with only 2wd, is good news IMO.

trueX5er 01-08-2008 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL
Scott answered most of it, but a couple of clarifications:
  • sDrive doesn't mean RWD; I would have said it means DPC, but Scott's definition is likely more precise. It is implied that not all RWD vehicles will have it
  • i generally means injection, not RWD. That isn't always true, but it is most of the time. It has nothing to do with RWD.
  • 30 certainly has something to do with the vehicle, it is the engine capacity in decilitres, before we get into the whole marketing approach of "add 5 for turbo" or "subtract 2 for derated"
I would have guessed what was coming, but Scott's hint of a RWD (or FWD) X, with only 2wd, is good news IMO.

1. Exactly my point, the average joe is going to have no idea what sDrive means. I didn't.

2. I meant that it is implied if there is just an "i" and no "x", it is RWD. I know "i" means injection, but it can also be used to determine rwd/awd, etc.

3. Engines are rarely rated in decilitires (not much is measured in decilitres) and it's obvious that they just removed the decimal. And as you stated it is not always the correct number.

JCL 01-08-2008 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trueX5er
3. Engines are rarely rated in decilitires (not much is measured in decilitres) and it's obvious that they just removed the decimal. And as you stated it is not always the correct number.

AMG. And, with the AMG 65, they add a turbo to a 6.0 litre and added five to the model number. Seems familiar. :rofl: There goes BMW playing catch up.

Infiniti.

This would be a good trivia question. Any others?

whoopy-do 01-08-2008 08:08 PM

So when is this going to start filtering through, im expecting a march delivery, to be honest if it is on mine i will be removing it asap it looks hidious!

LeMansX5 01-08-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoopy-do
So when is this going to start filtering through, im expecting a march delivery, to be honest if it is on mine i will be removing it asap it looks hidious!

You will be fine. Not starting till 2009 model year.

whoopy-do 01-08-2008 08:13 PM

thank god! what are they thinking, it really looks tacky!

Craig 01-08-2008 09:17 PM

Will the 2009 models have the dynamic X Drive?

Craig

LeMansX5 01-08-2008 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig
Will the 2009 models have the dynamic X Drive?

Craig

DxD / DPC....2009 Thats what I heard. :thumbup:

Craig 01-08-2008 09:33 PM

Great, thanks!

I'm waiting for the SD diesel...

Craig

xdrive 01-09-2008 12:43 AM

With the Dynamic Xdrive and the 4.4L v8 TT on the X5, wondering who would buy the X6, really?

LeMansX5 01-09-2008 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xdrive
With the Dynamic Xdrive and the 4.4L v8 TT on the X5, wondering who would buy the X6, really?

Lame question. V8 TT engine like all other BMW engines have different versions and outputs. X6 will always have more sportier handling than X5.

LeMansX5 02-29-2008 07:08 AM

Change in naming for X5 coming on 2009 models


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