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alexmish 03-10-2008 10:03 AM

DST/Clock did not change...
 
Did not drive yesterday, but as I got in the car this morning, the clock was still 1 hour behind, and I had to re-adjust it manually. I dont recall reading/seeing anything in regards to the auto-correcting for DST, but does this car suppose to change the clock automajically ?

motordavid 03-10-2008 10:10 AM

Ah, on my old style E53, it's a manual change...maybe diff in
E70.

Hope that's your biggest prob of the day, lol!

golfer4life 03-10-2008 10:13 AM

Even with auto correcting DST, it will not change this weekend. The time change was done a few weeks earlier, just like last year. My MBZ has auto DST but will not update until a few weeks later.

alexmish 03-10-2008 10:16 AM

Other manufacturers have already adjusted their software for the new DST rules (Honda/Acura did for sure).... However, since I dont recall seeing any settings/checkbox for "adjust for DST", my guess that is not done at all ???

motordavid 03-10-2008 10:18 AM

I suspect you are correct; they gave it great brakes and handling and
left out the automatic DST change feature. :rofl:

HaroldC 03-10-2008 11:02 AM

You need to change it manually.

BMW has never had a DST setting, and I don't really see the need for one. It's a simple task that took all of 5 seconds to do.

AzNMpower32 03-10-2008 11:19 AM

It seems a bit useless to have auto DST changes. Not all states in the US follow DST.

cbax5 03-10-2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfer4life
Even with auto correcting DST, it will not change this weekend. The time change was done a few weeks earlier, just like last year. My MBZ has auto DST but will not update until a few weeks later.

Yup... See this chart

alexmish 03-10-2008 02:19 PM

Useless to have it ??? I dont agree with that. The DST & timezone "map" is location-sensitive, and is aware which state do/do not participate. DST is even present in Europe (at least in UK, can not speak for the rest of the Europe).

In any case, my $20 cell phone changed its time yesterday automagically (as it got a signal from Verizon), it beats me as to why BMW did not introduce it, especially the one with the Navigation system, which gives it precise location and time signal from the satellites.

rh71 03-10-2008 03:09 PM

^ My XV6800 Verizon phone changed yesterday morning but this morning (1 day after) it was showing one hour before again as if the clock never changed. Weird stuff. Changed that manually and the X as well. I'm glad all this is just software-related though... we still have a chance at these kinds of fixes in the future.

motordavid 03-10-2008 03:52 PM

Our new Garmin, which works well, kept showing that every destination was
an hour longer than we would expect...the sumbitch was set for CST and we
are in EST/EDT, :rofl: ...not very intuitive to change it, either.
But, even I could manage that...

My point was/is, that it would be "nice" if your X's dashboard clock changed
for you, but the manual adjustment takes all of 5 seconds.

Give me a few less gizmos, keep the price to something that doesn't cost
more than my first 2 houses combined, and keep the engineering cooking, imo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexmish
Useless to have it ??? I dont agree with that. The DST & timezone "map" is location-sensitive, and is aware which state do/do not participate. DST is even present in Europe (at least in UK, can not speak for the rest of the Europe).

In any case, my $20 cell phone changed its time yesterday automagically (as it got a signal from Verizon), it beats me as to why BMW did not introduce it, especially the one with the Navigation system, which gives it precise location and time signal from the satellites.


Quicksilver 03-10-2008 06:48 PM

Once again the voice of reason stands out...........and :iagree:

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid
My point was/is, that it would be "nice" if your X's dashboard clock changed for you, but the manual adjustment takes all of 5 seconds.

Give me a few less gizmos, keep the price to something that doesn't cost
more than my first 2 houses combined, and keep the engineering cooking, imo.


jimsaq 03-10-2008 07:32 PM

that post wasn't 'the voice of reason' which implies it's the only valid perspective - it was just one possible valid perspective


my equally valid perspective is that it'd be a great feature and with due care from programmers, one that wouldn't impact on any part of the vehicle's reliability

Quicksilver 03-10-2008 07:40 PM

In the words of my brother......No arm wrestle here..... however

I believe the idea here is that it only takes 5 seconds to complete the process. Which is less time than most people spend arguing about a feature they don't have.

The reasonable conclusion?? Just set the clock and move on. Arguing aint going to change a thing especially the time.

Regards

jimsaq 03-10-2008 07:43 PM

it's 'a conclusion', not necessarily 'the reasonable conclusion'

if arguing isn't going to change anything, why did you reply?

Quicksilver 03-10-2008 07:51 PM

Nobody's arguing. Just pointing out a fact.
If it aint reasonable to you then fine.
Let it rest matters not to me.
:popcorn:

brian5 03-10-2008 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfer4life
Even with auto correcting DST, it will not change this weekend. The time change was done a few weeks earlier, just like last year. My MBZ has auto DST but will not update until a few weeks later.

Regarding your MBZ, that just means that your car needs a software update so that it can handle the new DST dates. It should not still only be updating a few weeks later...

jimsaq 03-10-2008 08:00 PM

it's not a fact though quicksilver. suggesting that this kind of feature exist and discussing the pros and cons is perfectly reasonable. attempting to quash that and just telling people that the only reasonable course of action is to set the clock manually and move on isn't actually reasonable, or factual. it's just one possible course of action.

another is to discuss the idea and learn about it's possible impacts and benefits and passing on feedback to the manufacturer. I'm sure BMW generally want to continue adding nice features where possible (this certainly is) to their vehicles as opposed to telling them it's not a reasonable request and to just move on.

alexmish 03-10-2008 10:29 PM

Come on folks, no need for flames... I was just pointing out 2 facts:

a) The clock does not change automatically with the DST
b) Other car manufacturers have already adjusted to the new DST rules.

That is all. It is totally irrelevant how long it takes to make the change manually. BTW, we do have power windows in our cars, while cranking down the windows manually takes 5 seconds, too :) And that, too, does not affect the driveability of the X :)

Arkay 03-10-2008 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfer4life
Even with auto correcting DST, it will not change this weekend. The time change was done a few weeks earlier, just like last year. My MBZ has auto DST but will not update until a few weeks later.

I'm not sure that your MB would not change when the DST switched over, does the car have COMAND/Nav?

On the MB, the auto DST function is tied to the Nav system through the GPS signals - and hence why it would also change the clock with the timezone if you were traversing from east to west or vice versa.

There is a slight annoyance issue with this system in that I cannot fine tune the clock - I'm ALWAYS late so I'd like to advance the clock in the car by a few minutes but it's not possible with this system, one can only set the time in 1/2 hour increments.

golfer4life 03-11-2008 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkay
I'm not sure that your MB would not change when the DST switched over, does the car have COMAND/Nav?

On the MB, the auto DST function is tied to the Nav system through the GPS signals - and hence why it would also change the clock with the timezone if you were traversing from east to west or vice versa.

There is a slight annoyance issue with this system in that I cannot fine tune the clock - I'm ALWAYS late so I'd like to advance the clock in the car by a few minutes but it's not possible with this system, one can only set the time in 1/2 hour increments.

My Benz does not have nav. Never bothered me to manually change the clock on both cars. Just took a few clicks to change it on both cars. Heck, it takes longer to change the time on my microwave, coffee maker, oven and wall clocks but it was never an annoyance. Just a part of life.

pvandam 03-11-2008 06:46 AM

I agree that it is certainly not a big deal, but the truth is that most of the devices in my home which have a clock, adjust themselves automatically.
Some have their own "table", some simply sync with what's in the air (like a clock which syncs time with an atomic clock in Frankfurt.
There are 2 clocks in my household I need to manually set every DST change: an old battery operated wall clock and the BMW.. :-)
My Computers, Cell phones, House phone, Microwave, alarm clock, heating thermostat, X10 home automation device, they all take care of this by themselves. If none would do it, the 5 second excersize would certainly look different.....

soldmystang 03-11-2008 09:23 AM

i had a wristwatch once. what a PITA.

cbax5 03-11-2008 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
In the words of my brother......No arm wrestle here.....

I like this! I'm going to steal it and try and give your brother credit when I can.... :rofl:


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