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chris609 08-19-2008 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by autoque
I have the 08 X5. I'm also having a little sound coming from the back, especially when I'm turning in low speed, and sometimes when going over bumps. I thought it was coming from the suspension, but didn't think it was coming from the tailgate. I don't have an automatic tailgate though. I was also observing the problem so I could report it to the dealer. You've gotta be really quiet to hear it though.
same here as of last week with 5200kms on it , but till now i thought it was the rear privacy cover that was making the noise :confused: Other than that no problems (yet?)

tonyj 10-04-2008 08:04 AM
I have had so many problems with rattles, noises and various of the electronic systems failing (steering column position memory, auto wipers going mad in light rain, gear lever failure etc) that I wish New Zealand had a “Lemon Law” like the US. I have final given up and am trading the E70 for a 650iSE, this X5 is the first US built BMW that I have owned (I have had 12 German built) I think there is a vast difference in build quality and QA.

I also had the tailgate noise issue. It sounded like the tailgate was not properly latch when going over even a minor bump, after several visits to the dealer they eventually found that a large retaining clip for the internal harness (in top of tailgate) had not been clipped in place and rather than holding the harness in place was adding to the problem by banging against the internal metal structure of the tailgate.

Good luck with remaining E70 owners…….I hope not to be one soon !

markmm 10-07-2008 10:16 AM
Mine did the same thing when I picked it up. Dealer is supposedly ordering a replacement. We'll see if that fixes it.

rufusdedog 10-07-2008 06:48 PM
Three parking brake failures (now fixed with new software), replaced windshield fluid tank, and now steering wheel makes a groan when telescoping and the driver's headrest will go up, but not down. Also the rattle in the rear area, which is especially noisy on cold mornings. I had a Honda Pilot I traded for the X5 and it didn't have a squeak in four years. I love the X5, but jeeze, the problems don't seem to end.

Oh, the "American made" remark, in my opinion, is just pompous talk. The Pilot was made in the U.S. as well as my previous Subaru. Both excellent. I think it's more poor design work in Germany (aluminium hood and plastic fenders to reduce weight, parking brake "oh shit" tool in the trunk anticipating failure, as well as the tool to retract the sunroof in the event of failure).

davidy1688 10-07-2008 07:10 PM
My 08 X5 is problem free so far. The mileage is 1200. :p:

tonyj 10-07-2008 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rufusdedog
Oh, the "American made" remark, in my opinion, is just pompous talk. The Pilot was made in the U.S. as well as my previous Subaru. Both excellent. I think it's more poor design work in Germany (aluminium hood and plastic fenders to reduce weight, parking brake "oh shit" tool in the trunk anticipating failure, as well as the tool to retract the sunroof in the event of failure).
Rufusdedog, I had not intended my remark about "American made" to sound pompous, it was based on the FACT that most of the current issues with BMW models with regard to QA issues are related to those X & Z models produced in North Carolina, it was not intended a slur on the US but just the way I see it. I am from New Zealand and we do not make any vehicles so I have no axe to grind, I have owned 14 BMW's over the last 20+ years and this is the first with basic QA issues. I also agree that the design is at fault with a good deal of the issues but that does not excuse the vehicle leaving the factory with its parts NOT correctly installed, that is a QA issue ! Regardless of whos fault it is this E70 is a DOG and at a cost here in NZ of US$136K it should not happen....

It is a crying shame that my faith in BMW has been so tarnished as I have had a great relationship in the past with the marque. This is the ONLY vehicle that I have regretted purchasing and despite my patients over the last 16 months and all the efforts of my local dealer I am still putting up with a vehicle that is in my humble opinion NOT FIT TO BARE THE BMW ROUNDEL.

:( :( :( :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

bigx5er 10-07-2008 10:49 PM
Tony what year is your E70?

The thing that kills me about the tailgate is BMW screwed it up in the E53, you would have thought they would have fixed it in the E70.

My 08 has some random tailgate clunks, nothing serious, but still silly. I'll get it looked at when I get my oil changed.

rufusdedog 10-08-2008 05:31 AM
It is a crying shame that my faith in BMW has been so tarnished as I have had a great relationship in the past with the marque.

I feel for you, but if you check other BMW forums for other vehicles, you'll hear the same lament. It's not where it's built. This is a "world car", i.e. parts from Mexico, U.S., Germany - heck, the vaunted engine that gets complaints because of ticking comes from Austria. Boeing and Airbus are having the same problems with their "world" aircraft - If you saw the Discovery Channel special regarding the A380 where the German wings wouldn't fit the French fuselage, I'm sure you'd get the idea. I'm not defending U.S. manufacturing, although I've been to the BMW factory 3 times, most recently in September for Roadsterfest with my Z3. I'm just pointing out that globalization in the industry is bringing parts from China, Mexico, heck, my OEM mats are made in Yugoslavia, to a factory for assembly and things don't fit. This is the manufacturer making a bigger profit by buying parts from the lowest bidder in the far corners of the world. Guess what? It's only going to get worse.

tonyj 10-08-2008 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bigx5er
Tony what year is your E70?

It was purchased June 07 and was one of the first batch into NZ so I guess that it must have been amongst the first right hand drive. Perhaps that is the problem, DO NOT BUY a new model until they have resolved the BUGS, my mistake...live and learn.

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Originally Posted by rufusdedog
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I think your comments are valid but having looked at and driven the new one series coupe (newest model in NZ) it does appear to be put together way better than my X5, but given that others on the forum have cars without problem it may be that this time round I was just unlucky ! Anyway the E70 will soon be gone (I hope) I just need to confirm what to get next, I have always liked the 7 (have owned 9) but the current Bangle Butt is just way UGLY, same problem but less in the 650, the new 7 is due later this year but that would have the issue of buying a new UNTESTED model again, I have learned by that mistake.... maybe I will change to Merc and buy the new CL500 but I am having problems with shaking the love affair with BMW despite not "loving" any of the current range. I am in the camp that thinks Chris Bangle did us BMW lovers great harm.

Good luck to all that still have problematic E70's.......:(

Dataready 10-08-2008 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dmo
I have an '07 3.0si with 19K miles on it now. I had the tailgate latch problem and the dealer replaced the latch. The noise is slightly less but defininatly still there! This car is making me crazy! I'm trying so hard to like it and feel good about my purchase. Unlike many of you, I drive a car for much longer than average. My last car, a 2000 528i, I drove almost 8 years! The only time that car saw a dealer was for oil service and brakes! My son drives it now, it looks and runs like brand new!
This X5 on the other hand, has been to the dealer more times in the first 6 months than the 528 has ever been in 8 years!

Besides the tailgate noise, the rear entertainment DVD was replaced because it was "sticking", now the speakers buzz if you play DVD sound through them! Suspension parts replaced for excessive noise and banging sounds, the plastic on the steering wheel is starting to peel. The door panels have been removed and "realigned". Just a bunch of things. All the while, I REALLY want to like this car!!

My apologies for the rant! The question I intended to ask is if anyone knows a fix for the noisy tailgate. If your sitting in the backseat it sounds like the tailgate is not closed all the way, just squeaks and rattles!! Should I take it back to the dealer or is there a DIY fix?
Thanks so much!
I had the same problem with my 2006 x5. After 3-5 trips to the stealear and multiple parts replacement including the latch itself which after it was replaced it became so hard to latch and makes a grinding nois when latching. The stealer found out the nois is coming from the spare tier area. The spare's lock down nut was loos a bit and evrything was rattling in the trunk.... Check every part in your trunk before touching the latch. Good luck.


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