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Diesel test drive
Drove the diesel yesterday. It is fierce, the 420 ft lb of torque unleash like a pitbull going after the jugular. I was extremely impressed, congrats to all the folks who got one. The only thing I can say is that I was lucky it was not released when I bought mine, else I would have be 10Gs poorer :dunno: I couldn't smell any oil, it did make a distinctive rumble with the windows down, but with them up it is no different than the gas ones. Wish that diesel was priced same as premium gas, then there would be no contest between a 3.0 gas and the 35d.
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you mean $5g poorer... $10k is the 4.8i which I've said before isn't really worth the difference for just an engine and a couple other very minor aesthetic parts (not to mention you get to spend more on gas through the life of the vehicle too)... not for my uses anyway. $5g I would definitely go for... even the twin turbo gas. At times I wish I had leased this time just because I could get my hands on the latter soon, as well as the new idrive.
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I think now it's only 3700.00 difference. BMW raised prices, but kept the diesel the same. There is also a 1550.00 alternative fuel tax credit on the diesel.
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The reason for the price diff. is I got mine 3K below invoice whereas the diesels I would be happy to get 1K over invoice, then the interest rates are like 2.9% whereas I got .9% + ofcourse the prices have gone up since I bought and the price diff. of 5K between the two models, probably works out to more than 10K ;)
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Usually I agree with you, but to say the 4.8i is just an engine is insane. :loco: Moreover the gas mileage between the inline 6 and the V8 is not material like you said in your comment. It sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that you got the right car. BMW admits that the gas mileage difference between the 2 engines is less than 1mpg in real world conditions since the X5 is such a heavy vehicle. Saying the 4.8 is not worth the price differential depends on each person, but the moment I drove the V8, I knew it was the right engine for the car. If it is worth $10K more, well depends on your financial situation and the way you drive your car. I personally have been racing for years now and I could not pass on the opportunity to own th 4.8. It is such a blast to drive and did I mention the sound? :thumbup: |
^ I did mention "not for my uses anyway". I did test drive the 4.8i as well. Not trying to convince myself by saying this here, I already did that as I made the purchase (and because it's long term I thought long and hard about it)... it's just an opinion I want to share here - I'm not knocking the people who did spend the extra money - I don't know anything about other people's uses (racing, towing, etc.). Loved the exhaust note, didn't like the price difference for what I needed. Would rather spend $10k elsewhere... like worthwhile addons and... my newborns (what timing eh?). ;)
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At lease in Ottawa, Canada. (Loblaw gas at Baseline/Merivale). I drive by every day and it posted Regular 74.6 and Diesel 84.9. Since Premium is 10 cent more ~ 84.6 cent/liter Anyways, BMW diesel is ~30% more efficient. Even if Diesel is at $1.10/liter, you'll still equal out. When I did calculated the 3.0i and 35d with same options, it was about $12K cheaper for 3.0i. $4100 diff between 3.0 and 35d $4000 BMW Finance alternative cash back for the 3.0i + taxed on lower amount of the 3.0 (in Canada we pay 13%taxes) I think it was only $4300 diff between the 35d and 4.8i because the 4.8i was offering a $5000 cash back. |
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What's the source of this? I don't have either a 3.0 or a 4.8 but find that hard to believe. |
Wonder why they don't offer the twin turbo six?
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if I hadn't waited for the diesel... Craig |
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> Penguin, I'm not trying to convince myself that I got the right car.
My mistake, I confused your post with another. P.S. I deleted that message of mine. |
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I've got a kid on the way as well!!! Congrats!!! |
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Fair Enough!!! Solid deal!!!
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I'm still not even sure what the x6 is supposed to be...:dunno:
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BMW X6: Let me try, a car that has a modern design and superior handling (the DPC allow driving pirouettes around all the X5s) :nanana:
Unless you have a large family, what would be the benefit of the X5 to X6, except a design from the Stone Age...? :rofl: Jonas |
^ IMO the E70 design is the most modern-looking of all SUVs available on the market. Styling was very important to me and I would not have jumped on the E53 if that was still being sold as the current X5 model. Maybe you're knocking all SUVs as stone age... :dunno:
I think the problem with the X6 is that the styling/design is in-between what we know as purposeful. This is not to say it is plain ugly... just a :confused: really. Even if good looks is in the eye of the beholder, I'm not sure what you can really do with it from a utility standpoint. If you want it to be fast, why make it so large - they are compensating by throwing the latest engineering/technology at it but they created the problem for themselves. If you want it practical, why so little room (passenger max of 4 as well as cargo)? Everyone knows these arguments by now. The only thing I can give it credit for is being "different"... think outside the box, pioneering, right? Good for BMW, but as a buyer... again... :dunno: You'd have to ask yourself why you bought an X6 over something like a 5-series (bear in mind the X5 will get DPC too)... it's probably just to be different (which really I have no problem with either). |
I would not say the X6 is neither / nor but the opposite, both a spacious 4x4 SUV with all the benefits like xDrive, increased ground clearance, high passive safety due to height and weight (both very important in Sweden with the poorly ploughed roads up north and the mooses), large cargo capacity (yes, it has 570 L (+ 80 L in the spare tire space) vs. 620 L for the X5), high towing capacity (3.500 kg) etc etc in combination with the look, agility and feeling of a coupe. The way it turns in to bends is nothing but amazing. X6 proves it IS possible to be both large and fast and has clearly put a new road handling benchmark for this kind of car.
To be a bit provocative: What do you get additionally with the X5 - a 5th seat (or even 7) and 50 L more in the boot? Personally I would not trade away the sporty handling and dynamic look of the X6 for a marginally better utility, especially since I have no kids yet (maybe getting there soon, at least if my better half should decide... :-). Just for your information: the 5-series touring has only 500 L cargo space (i.e. 70 L less than the X6), X6 manage higher speed in the "Elktest" than a BMW M5 according to measurements made by Auto Motor und Sport in Germany (thanks to the DPC) and in the last magazine of the german Off-Road they tested the X6 against Jeep Cherokee, Toyota Land Cruiser and Volvo XC60 on snow and ice. The X6 was surprisingly the best car on snow and ice - by margin in the slalom discipline (DPC again...). So, there is very little argument at least for me to switch over to X5 (which is still missing the DPC --> active safety, still missing the shifters on the steering wheel, IMO still a bit "conservative" in the design) or to 5-series (towing capacity, ground clearance, passive safety, cargo space, outdated model etc). Except different opinions of the design, what is talking against X6? Of course this is only my opinion (which is a bit coloured...) but it is in fact partly based on pure facts. |
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I am really glad you are happy with your 6. To each his own.:D |
Thanks. On the other hand, before buying the X6 I was seriously considering exactly the X5 and 5-series touring (in that order). They are both really excellent cars and the decision was not obvious to me.
In a couple of years I am sure I also have an X5 in my garage and I am also sure I will not be disappointed that day! :-) All the best to everyone! |
I've got an X5 but I like the X6 as well for some or all the reasons kungen mentioned. In fact I would consider one next time around since my kids are heading off on their own now and aren't often in the back of the X5 anymore.
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