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bmwman3241 03-09-2009 01:30 PM

Laser Interceptor Install on E70!
 
I installed the Laser Interceptor on my X5 today. I know a few people have this on here and some were interested. I will get some daytime pictures up tomorrow.
It is the Quad sensor set.
Let me know what you think.

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yorencer 03-09-2009 01:38 PM

Good stuff!!!!... how much was it?

bmwman3241 03-09-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by yorencer
Good stuff!!!!... how much was it?

I got the highest model. It came to about $3000. They have cheaper models though.

Roadster 03-09-2009 03:47 PM

I wonder why you need sensors at the back of the car?
anyway, these things are illegal here in Belgium, you can have your car repossessed when busted...

Denalio 03-09-2009 04:12 PM

Looks good. Make sure the heads are level. I assume you cut out the mesh grill on the front a bit? Also how did you run the wires for the rear sensors?

bmwman3241 03-09-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Denalio
Looks good. Make sure the heads are level. I assume you cut out the mesh grill on the front a bit? Also how did you run the wires for the rear sensors?

I have to check it again tomorrow to make sure its level, but it was when installed. I didn't do it myself, but the dealer that did it mounted the control unit under the seat. With the control unit there, they were able to get power from the lighter in the console, mount the button where it is, and run the wires easily. All I know is they took it from under the driver seat to the left of the car then to the rear. When are you panning on getting it?

Also, do you have a radar jammer because that next on my list.

gadgetman 03-09-2009 05:29 PM

On/Off switch
 
Nice install however, your on/off switch is upside down. :bustingup
I know, it's your preference.. :thumbup:

King 03-09-2009 06:36 PM

Okay, some constructive criticism for you - Did the dealer have to cut out the mesh grill? Could they not have placed the unit behind it? And did they have to use silver screws, could they not have used black screws??

steed77 03-09-2009 06:38 PM

Good stuff... you should of looked up the LPP... more stopping power, less $$$

AVATT 03-09-2009 07:19 PM

Looks great, I have the same set up. I mounted the switch in the overhead panel tho.

As for some of the comments from others, you were correct to not mount behind the grill as that reduces performance. Also, the LPP is a good unit but the LI has performed similarly especially in light of some who believe the LPP's tested lately were prototypes, and lately the LI rep (at least in the US) has been more reliable.

Good luck.

King 03-09-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AVATT
Looks great, I have the same set up. I mounted the switch in the overhead panel tho.

As for some of the comments from others, you were correct to not mount behind the grill as that reduces performance. Also, the LPP is a good unit but the LI has performed similarly especially in light of some who believe the LPP's tested lately were prototypes, and lately the LI rep (at least in the US) has been more reliable.

Good luck.

LPP?? LI?? Obviously I'm new to this! What's the best jammer to get and where can I find some more info on it? I'm sure there are several manufacturers out there. The V1 seems to be the best radar detector out there and I already have it, (just need to hardwire it,) but what is it's equivalent in a jammer? Surely those things can't cost $3000! Are we talking about pesos? :rofl: Thx.

AVATT 03-09-2009 07:49 PM

See the Guys of Lidar, www.guysoflidar.com They seem to be the most "unbiased" of all the testers, tho some take shots at them as well. Also review radar roy and between those 2 u will see others mentioned. As a caution, the 2 big issues are diode vs LED and then the reliability of the manufacturer from whom you buy. I will tell I had the Blinder (LED) and LI (DIODE) and have been happy with both products. The LI is superior however. The 2 reps, Leon and Cliff respectivly are top notch, some of the other manufactures' I dont trust.

Just do some research on the various forums.

Good luck.



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Originally Posted by King
LPP?? LI?? Obviously I'm new to this! What's the best jammer to get and where can I find some more info on it? I'm sure there are several manufacturers out there. The V1 seems to be the best radar detector out there and I already have it, (just need to hardwire it,) but what is it's equivalent in a jammer? Surely those things can't cost $3000! Are we talking about pesos? Thx.


Denalio 03-09-2009 08:05 PM

You mounted it correctly. It must be unobstructed. behind the grill would severely diminish performance. LI is the way to go just look at the results consistently JTG.

steed77 03-09-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by King
LPP?? LI?? Obviously I'm new to this! What's the best jammer to get and where can I find some more info on it? I'm sure there are several manufacturers out there. The V1 seems to be the best radar detector out there and I already have it, (just need to hardwire it,) but what is it's equivalent in a jammer? Surely those things can't cost $3000! Are we talking about pesos? :rofl: Thx.

V1 or 9500ix is the top of line Detectors... There are no better.

A laser jammer(FDA light) is an entirely new creature.. Radar jammers(RF) will get you jail time here in the US.

For the best hands down laser unit... The one I have personally seen work flawless....Jam to the gun type of power.. The LPP is it. Radar Detectors & Laser Pro Park Support Forum - KMPH.ca • Index page

Denalio 03-09-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwman3241
I have to check it again tomorrow to make sure its level, but it was when installed. I didn't do it myself, but the dealer that did it mounted the control unit under the seat. With the control unit there, they were able to get power from the lighter in the console, mount the button where it is, and run the wires easily. All I know is they took it from under the driver seat to the left of the car then to the rear. When are you panning on getting it?

Also, do you have a radar jammer because that next on my list.

No I do not have a radar jammer. they are illegal almost everywhere. There is only one that I am aware of that works, but will cost a lot of dough. Most claim to jam radar but can't prove it.

bmwman3241 03-10-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Denalio
No I do not have a radar jammer. they are illegal almost everywhere. There is only one that I am aware of that works, but will cost a lot of dough. Most claim to jam radar but can't prove it.

You mind saying which radar jammer you are talking about? I am considering one if they are stealth.

bmwman3241 03-10-2009 12:39 AM

From what I heard before buying it, LI is the best and nothing competes. I still have to test my LI, but lets hope it works.
Also, like AVATT had mentioned, the customer service of LI is outstanding. Give Cliff a call and he will help you through any questions or problems you encounter.

bmwman3241 03-10-2009 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gadgetman
Nice install however, your on/off switch is upside down. :bustingup
I know, it's your preference.. :thumbup:

:dunno:
I didn't know it was upside down. I'm to lazy to switch it around so its fine the way it is. How do you know the LED goes at the top? In your install you had mentioned something similar to "notice how I did it so the LED is at the top".

bmwman3241 03-10-2009 04:14 AM

What do you think of this? Its a Radar/Laser scrambler. Im guessing it is something similar to a jammer. They have just the scrambler, or a combo unit with the detector built in. Its pretty cheap to, only $180.

RMR-C475 - Rocky Mountain Radar | Radar Detectors, Radar Scramblers

steed77 03-10-2009 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwman3241
What do you think of this? Its a Radar/Laser scrambler. Im guessing it is something similar to a jammer. They have just the scrambler, or a combo unit with the detector built in. Its pretty cheap to, only $180.

RMR-C475 - Rocky Mountain Radar | Radar Detectors, Radar Scramblers

Seriously... they are no good. Put that $180 to use, buy ANYTHING else.

Denalio 03-10-2009 07:44 AM

Rocky Mountain is the biggest rip off artist in the business IMO. The one I am talking about comes with the purchase of an F-18. Really, do not waste your money on Rocky Mountain. Also, I think you may want your bubble on your reciever on the inside. You should head over to the LI forum and ask someone there like Ivan about the install.

bmwman3241 03-10-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Denalio
Rocky Mountain is the biggest rip off artist in the business IMO. The one I am talking about comes with the purchase of an F-18. Really, do not waste your money on Rocky Mountain. Also, I think you may want your bubble on your reciever on the inside. You should head over to the LI forum and ask someone there like Ivan about the install.

In the manual it shows the bubble on the outside. I will check that out.
Which jammer are you talking about that comes with an F-18? And is it F-18 as in the jet? I don't mind spending money but I want it to work. If there is nothing good out that anyone could recommend, I will order a few different ones and see which works.

I also tried the LI today with many different lasers, and it didn't detect any of them. I will have to look into this too.

Denalio 03-10-2009 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwman3241
In the manual it shows the bubble on the outside. I will check that out.
Which jammer are you talking about that comes with an F-18? And is it F-18 as in the jet? I don't mind spending money but I want it to work. If there is nothing good out that anyone could recommend, I will order a few different ones and see which works.

I also tried the LI today with many different lasers, and it didn't detect any of them. I will have to look into this too.

Yes as in the jet!! Seriously, most do not work and there is no real conclusive evidence that any "consumer models" do. Which laser guns did you use?

Denalio 03-10-2009 09:26 AM

Scorpion Ultimate Ka may work, but is unreliable and hard to find. You can not run a radar detector with a radar jammer because the jammer would set of the detector all the time. Your best bet would be to get a good radar detector such as the Bel STi-R or the Escort 9500ix, V1 is good but does not offer stealth against spectre units (RDD's).

Denalio 03-10-2009 09:32 AM

BTW. I would contact Cliff at LaserInterceptorUSA about your problem he is very knowledgeable and can help you trouble shoot if you are in the U.SA.

bmwman3241 03-10-2009 10:45 AM

I tested it with the lasers the cops have on the street. I didn't get any notification from the LI that it has detected a laser. I will have to keep trying it out.

Also, I already know where the radar/lasers are because they are built into speed cameras, so I just want a way to be able to peed past them without slowing down. That is why I have no need for a detector and why I have not purchased a V1. I just need a good jammer or something similar to jam the gun so no pictures are taken.
I will look into the Scorpion Ultimate.

BTW, why would an F-18 need a jammer? And if it is for cars, andy price estimate?

bmwman3241 03-10-2009 10:45 AM

I have had SOOO many tickets this year that I wouldn't mind spending any amount to get something to work.

Denalio 03-10-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwman3241

BTW, why would an F-18 need a jammer? And if it is for cars, andy price estimate?

I am being sarcastic :dunno: all these military jets have sophisticated radar and electronic jamming devices. BTW about 40 million get you one, 29 million at a second hand sale;)

Denalio 03-10-2009 06:36 PM

Do you know which laser they are using ? I think in Dubai they also use a new technology- Sensys. The radar, I believe, is not use primarily to record speed but rather "track" time between two points. At some point it must take a speed reading to begin the track and I think the primary premise is measured from "point a" to "point b", point 'b" probably being the camera and a calculation is made during the track to determine the time, thus speed one traveled through the zone. This uses a radar lobe . check out Radar Detector Jammer Forum and look in the jammer forum over there. There are way more knowledgeable people over there that could explain more if you ask nicely.

Penguin 03-23-2010 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Denalio (Post 587798)
You can not run a radar detector with a radar jammer because the jammer would set of the detector all the time.

I though the radar jammers linked into the radar detector and only transmitted when the radar detector signaled a radar detection.

scottpsu 03-23-2010 07:56 PM

BMWMAN - check out Radar Roy's $50k challenge to RMR. They won't take him up on it for their $180 unit. Bottom line...junk. I bought a K40 radar detector and laser "diffuser" but I have seen mixed reviews. The radar detector portion is GREAT, but the laser jammer goes off and I haven't been pulled over yet. I can't attest to its performance as it has only gone off as I was doing 80 is a 65mph zone with traffic.

As for radar jammers, it was mentioned that they will land you in jail in the US. That is true. FCC doesn't take kindly to those that actively jam radar. Working for a radar development company (for defense applications), I can say that there are jamming technologies that exist, for a price similar to that of systems on expensive aircraft. If you do find a solution though, I would be interested!!! :p:

bmwman3241 03-23-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scottpsu (Post 725570)
BMWMAN - check out Radar Roy's $50k challenge to RMR. They won't take him up on it for their $180 unit. Bottom line...junk. I bought a K40 radar detector and laser "diffuser" but I have seen mixed reviews. The radar detector portion is GREAT, but the laser jammer goes off and I haven't been pulled over yet. I can't attest to its performance as it has only gone off as I was doing 80 is a 65mph zone with traffic.

As for radar jammers, it was mentioned that they will land you in jail in the US. That is true. FCC doesn't take kindly to those that actively jam radar. Working for a radar development company (for defense applications), I can say that there are jamming technologies that exist, for a price similar to that of systems on expensive aircraft. If you do find a solution though, I would be interested!!! :p:

I have the LI installed, but found out that it does me no good. They started using radar now and barely use laser. So I want a radar jammer but know that it is near impossible to find a working one.
I wouldn't mind paying up to $10k for a radar jammer, but I know I will never find a working one. And I want it for Dubai, where they use cameras. In the US, A radar detector (Valentine 1!!) is good enough.

Epacy 03-24-2010 07:54 AM

The LI is the truth. Best lidar jamming product out there. Best reviews/test by far.
It has already saved me a handful of times. Definitely looking to get one for the X5 when it comes in.

998M 03-24-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwman3241 (Post 587785)
In the manual it shows the bubble on the outside. I will check that out.
Which jammer are you talking about that comes with an F-18? And is it F-18 as in the jet? I don't mind spending money but I want it to work. If there is nothing good out that anyone could recommend, I will order a few different ones and see which works.

I also tried the LI today with many different lasers, and it didn't detect any of them. I will have to look into this too.


Bubble on the outside. This comes directly from Cliff at LI. I have had several laser jammers over the last 5-6 years. I feel that LI is the best performer and also the most difficult to install if you are adding rear sensors as well as front. They must be straight and level. Also, great customer service from Cliff. Cost in Us is $1,400 plus $500 or so to install.

M

bmwman3241 03-24-2010 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 998M (Post 725809)
Bubble on the outside. This comes directly from Cliff at LI. I have had several laser jammers over the last 5-6 years. I feel that LI is the best performer and also the most difficult to install if you are adding rear sensors as well as front. They must be straight and level. Also, great customer service from Cliff. Cost in Us is $1,400 plus $500 or so to install.

M

$1,400 is the quad setup, but I got the HP quad which is about $2,500 plus about $500 for the install.
I was just on their site, and it looks like they have a new version 8 out. Do you have version 7 or 8?
And the jammer to parking sensor switch seems pretty cool just incase you get stopped. It can also be linked to your V1!?

998M 03-24-2010 01:09 PM

I have version 8. didn't know about linking to V1. Will look into it. Didn't go with HP version. Was not tested by anyone at the time I ordered.

998M 03-24-2010 04:22 PM

Not much information on how it links to V1. I see a diagram but what does the connection do. May be using the V1 laser receiver to initiate the jam. If that is the case, I prefer the LI for laser detection rather than the V1. There are far fewer false alarms with LI than V1.

Denalio 03-24-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 998M (Post 725909)
Not much information on how it links to V1. I see a diagram but what does the connection do. May be using the V1 laser receiver to initiate the jam. If that is the case, I prefer the LI for laser detection rather than the V1. There are far fewer false alarms with LI than V1.

I believe the link is just for the voice alert no other function than that.

X5 Meister 03-25-2010 02:38 PM

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Can someone post a detailed measurement of the size (length x width x depth) and a few pictures of one of the detectors that mounts in the front. I'm curious if one can be somehow embedded in one of the bumper plugs on an E53 X5.

bmwman3241 03-25-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 726215)
Can someone post a detailed measurement of the size (length x width x depth) and a few pictures of one of the detectors that mounts in the front. I'm curious if one can be somehow embedded in one of the bumper plugs on an E53 X5.

From the website:
3-1/8"L x 13/16"W x 9/16"H

X5 Meister 03-25-2010 04:00 PM

Thanks I saw that, I was just hoping for photos of all sides and the associated measurements to assess if it is a perfect rectangle or not and how the cable comes off it.

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Originally Posted by bmwman3241 (Post 726239)
From the website:
3-1/8"L x 13/16"W x 9/16"H


Xtony 03-27-2010 08:31 AM

Just finished my own install of a basic dual head Laser Interceptor. I'll post some pictures of the installation procedure soon.

BTW, I bought my LI through a group buy on M5board.com at a great price. If anyone is interested, they are still honoring that price.
Laser Interceptor Group Buy: Best Pricing Available!!! - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)

X5 Meister 03-27-2010 01:26 PM

Excellent information, thanks for sharing. I'm going to add a new thread to the group buy forum for those that might be interested.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-related-...group-buy.html

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Originally Posted by Xtony (Post 726791)
Just finished my own install of a basic dual head Laser Interceptor. I'll post some pictures of the installation procedure soon.

BTW, I bought my LI through a group buy on M5board.com at a great price. If anyone is interested, they are still honoring that price.
Laser Interceptor Group Buy: Best Pricing Available!!! - The Unofficial BMW M5 Messageboard (m5board.com)


Xtony 03-27-2010 08:48 PM

Some pictures of my installation:

First I installed the sensors using the included malleable brackets. I actually lost one so I had to improvise with one of the passenger side brackets. I later painted it black to hide it better.

I then ran the cables through the driver's side engine compartment and into the area underneath the brake master cylinder.

I drilled a hole through the grommet under the driver's side kick panel and ran the cables into the cabin.

I ran the power/ground cable under the center console and then tapped the harness to the lighter after removing the carpet panels on both sides of the console.

After that, it's just a matter of making all the connections and finding a location for the box with the integrated speaker and for the power switch. I chose to put everything on the kick panel well out of site, but with the power switch easily accessible.
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X5 Meister 03-27-2010 09:12 PM

Very nice job. Thanks for sharing. Just curious, did you consider mounting the speaker/control box on that inside of that panel and just have the speaker turned up louder? That way nothing at all would be shown except for the on/off switch.?

Xtony 03-28-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 726956)
Very nice job. Thanks for sharing. Just curious, did you consider mounting the speaker/control box on that inside of that panel and just have the speaker turned up louder? That way nothing at all would be shown except for the on/off switch.?

Yes I did. Unfortunately, even with the speaker volume turned up to max, I don't think the alert would be loud enough if I have music on at a moderate volume. I then tried to aim the speaker out through one of the openings, but then the cover wouldn't fit back on correctly, so i decided to leave it on the outside. I'm sure if I tried a few more positions I could have hidden it, but you can't see anything at all where it is unless you stick your head under the steering wheel.

bmwman3241 03-28-2010 08:31 AM

I mounted my box under the driver seat. It is easy to access and you can hear the speaker fine, even with music.
Also, you can use an external speaker if you wanted to hide the box but still have a speaker outside.


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