Originally Posted by AVATT (Post 668535)

Look Penguin, I was not going to respond to your last post and was content to let it go, especially since you stated you did not wish to engage the subject anymore. However, after you posted that comment you failed to abide by your own words and deemed to continue the "discussion" by editing your own post and continuing the issue. Therefore I will respond as follows:

"I simply do not see the utility of turning the thread into a discussion of legal theory and quoting of legal precedents, etc."
-Really? That is the ultimate in hypocrisy. It was YOU that first saw fit to advise the reader that in Illinois, video in motion is illegal and in so doing incorrectly quoted the proposed legislation rather than the actual enacted statute. It was YOU that first saw fit to correct Berniac and suggest that whether video was playing in a car would be decided by a preponderence of evidence in a civil suit, completly misunderstanding the issues at bay in such a matter. I politley attempted to clarify your misunderstanding. It was YOU that was the smart a** in first quoting me and then pointing out the original posters comments as if I didnt understand it. It was YOU that did not in any way respond to the original poster's technical query but rather chimed in with your unsolicited personal opinion on the efficacy of such systems.

"I have no interest in further argument back and forth as I don't see any value added to either myself or other readers."
- While you arrogantly presume to speak for the readers, I will let them decide for themselves as to who's posts are value added, mine which actually responded specifically to the posters technical q's or yours which offer unsolicited opinion, attempt to incorrectly correct others and chime in with smart a** comments which add nothing to this Board.

"You seem to have a problem."
- Yes, its posts like yours. I suggest you also take a look at yourself and ask why you feel the need to offer your unwanted opinions and try to correct others.

"Whatever."
-A petty chick term.

Originally Posted by AVATT (Post 668535)

I will let them decide for themselves as to who's posts are value added, mine which actually responded specifically to the posters technical q's or yours which offer unsolicited opinion

Originally Posted by jigaro (Post 668594)

This penguin guy, gave me a hard time as well, for some reason!!

Originally Posted by jigaro (Post 668594)

This penguin guy, gave me a hard time as well, for some reason!!

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 668621)

Yes, I found the post where you claim I gave you a hard time.

Apparently you took offense when I said it was unacceptable to tell people to "Shut the F**k up."

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ts-button.html


My apologies for telling you it is unacceptable to tell people the "Shut the F**k up" on a message board.

That was rude of me.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by m5james (Post 668648)

LMAO at all these guys getting on their soapbox about driving and watching TV. Ever speed or talked on your phone driving? Studies have shown that talking and/or texting while driving is as bad, if not worse than driving drunk.

I've watched TV plenty of times over the years in M5 and F350. Mind you, it was on long boring roadtrips in the middle of nowhere, not in traffic situations. The screen height is high enough that I can still EASILY see the road. I've done the same the OP did though where friends watched it, played PlayStation games, etc...no worse of a distraction than them talking to me. It's called self control.

Worry more about the idiots typing text messages while looking at their phone, which is 99% of the time parallel to their lap, as opposed to the screen watchers who are at least still looking up on the highest point of the dash.

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 659450)

OK, fair enough, I'll leave off the comment about it being illegal. That really wasn't my main point, which was more to do with the silliness of installing driver distractions. Having TV or video, or the controls for the kid's TV or video, in the line of sight of the driver just seems like a really dumb idea, and the fact that it may or may not be illegal is incidental.

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 659450)

Defeating lockouts installed by the manufacturer to protect not only the driver and his passengers just seems wrong.

Originally Posted by m5james (Post 668654)

How is this any worse than iDrive to adjust the heater, shock setting, M power mode, GPS or the radio?



BMW doesn't want to give me the option in the U.S. to roll my windows up remotely via my key either. Just because BMW doesn't want us to, doesn't mean it shouldn't be a choice.

Trust me, after purchasing my first motorcylce, i'm the first one to experience distracted drivers. Here in Idaho we have the option of wearing or not wearing helmets...I like having the option. I like having the same option in my vehicles if I'd like to use the screen for more than just adjust the heater or playing music, especially since the stereo is capable of more.

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 659094)

Hopefully we will soon come out of the era of vehicles being configured as living rooms, media rooms, and babysitters. Until then, stay safe.