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eyeguy 09-11-2009 01:04 AM

X5d pics and impressions after Performance Center Delivery 9/8/09 - LONG
 
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OK, I've managed to put together some early pics from PCD on 9/8 as well as a few on the nearby Cherohala Parkway/Tail of the Dragon and the Blue Ridge Parkway. Although BCP was foggy at times, this gave a nice shot of the Angel Eyes for my new Avatar...:p:. Prepare for a very long account, but I broke it down by section: Performance Center Delivery (PCD), nearby driving info, and impressions of the X5 diesel. I lurked here and on the X5 subforum on Bimmerfest for weeks before ordering my X5d in order to identfy the leading concerns and issues with this vehicle before ordering one. Below is my attempt to give another opinion to assist those considering an X5, and share some cool pics. Early impressions of the drive and car (compared to my previous 2004 BMW 330i ZHP)...

**Skip down a paragraph for car and driving details***
PCD is, in a word, awesome. This was my second trip to Spartanburg after taking the 2 day driver course in April driving 1 and 3 series. There are other PCD posts here and on Bimmerfest, but for those who don't know: 24 hour VIP package including pickup at the airport in a BMW, nice hotel lodging at the Marriott Greenville with great dinner and breakfast included, and transportation to the PCD. My group included a couple picking up an X6, a guy reuniting with his 335 after European Delivery, and me and my wife with our X5d. The day is broken into 3 segments in random order: First, 2 hours with a driving instructor - you and one guest get a "sampler" driving course with exercises in one of their vehicles as close to identical as possible to the one you bought, including ABS emergency braking, slalom and track runs, and drifting/skid recovery both with and without DSC engaged on the skidpad. You also get treated to the "hot lap," where you ride with Donnie Isley who shows you how ferocious M cars can be by driving an M5 like a bat out of hell - check out the BMWUSA website under Performance Center Delivery for a teaser video. Second segment: 2 hours with your new car where they show you exactly how every bell and whistle works on your car - this is the time to ask questions because they know everything. Third, you take an X5 on an off road course on the way to a factory tour where you watch X5's and X6's being produced. A note on the off road course: this is likely a carefully constructed environment and I will probably never take my X5 through 2 feet of water or up on 2 wheels like a mountain goat over rocky terrain, but it was nice to know the car can do it if needed (and to do this in THEIR car...:wow:) and demonstrate some of BMW's newest features. The factory tour was fascinating - for those you wondering , they are still making the '09's- as of 9/8/09 they have not shut down yet to retool for MY2010. They've been rolling out X5M's and X6M's for a few weeks now and it was fun to see those. I happened to be there to take delivery on the exact day of the 15 year anniversary of the Spartanburg facility so there were mucky mucks around that day. Anyway, the whole day was very fun and educational: it's a nice VIP package and a really great way to get to know your car, and BMW as a whole, better. They let PCD owners park on the sidewalk on display in front of the Zentrum museum and factory - check the pics below...
The wife and left the campus and immediately headed over the BMW CCA headquarters, also in Greer SC, to drop off our rebate check request...:thumbup:

OK - driving and the car itself...
First, driving - Tail of the Dragon/Cherohala Parkway is great way to get a feel for your new car. You can't go faster than about 55 (at least not in an X5) and speed limit is 35 anyway, but on a weekday morning this area was sparse and a blast to drive, so you can really enjoy the handling without worrying about rev's too high during break-in... The "Tail" is over 300 curves in 11 miles - motorDavid on this forum lives nearby and can undoubtely provide much better details....He recommended the Cherohala which is a 120 mile loop including the Tail of the Dragon - I felt the early and late parts of the loop, as well as the adjacent "Hellbender" were the most scenic and fun. We did the Blue Ridge Parkway today, which was patchy with fog but I still got a few pics shown below.

Now, the car...not as nimble as my 330 ZHP but we all know that. Still very impressive - both elegant and refined with lots of poise but still drives like a BMW. Let's talk options. YES YES YES you should get Adaptive Drive IMO. I experimented heavily with Sport suspension/throttle engaged as well as separately with Drive and DS modes on and off. Throttle-wise the "Sport" button setting is a bit more aggressive but I didn't push it that hard during break-in, but with respect to the suspension, on all those tight turns I could absolutely discern a difference in body roll with Sport Suspension on and off. I also like the sport package looks with the Anthracite headliner, Shadowline, etc etc but these are uncoupled from Adaptive Drive on MY2010 - yes, they hose you with a price increase, but that suspension makes a BIG difference in handing almost like a BMW sedan. Again, I highly recommend Adaptive Drive if you really like to push the corners. I couldn't spool up the X5d (to 5000 RPM where it auto-shifts...:()too much during these early miles but I enjoyed a massive rush of torque from the diesel from 1700 RPM which I curtailed at 3500 RPM per my delivery advisor's recs for another day or two up until I'm up around Boston...Also on the PLUS side, through all aggressive and hilly driving I got 24.1 MPG!!!!:D BTW, I find the diesel clatter to be noticeable outside at idle or momentarily with acceleration, and inside at idle only but it's not intrusive at all which agrees with what other X5d owners have said...

What else may be helpful...Tech package: this will undoubtedly start a war but I think the iDrive is easy to use right now. My advisor took the time to pair my phone and upload my address book, hook up my iPod to the USB/iPod jack and upload my playlists, and showed my some shortcuts to using iDrive that make me think with a little practice it'll be easy to use. I HAVE NOT HOWEVER TRIED 4th GEN. Parking camera: I agree it gets pretty grainy at low light levels but I still found it useful over the past 3 days of navigating rest stop, restaurant, and hotel parking lots. Yes, it takes about 2 seconds to boot up and maybe 5 seconds to shut off after starting forward motion but I still found the system immensely entertaining and useful. Those steering targeting lines are really cool - the software reprogram with my factory trailer hitch with an 8 inch, 4 ich, and "bullseye" for trailer ball engagement will be very useful for hooking up the boat trailer by myself. Aesthetics...running boards look great and are a low cost accessory at $100 but are unnecessary from a functional standpoint (I still like the way they look, tho. Also - I mentioned to PCD about a few people noting the rubber blister points retracting though the board - they said they hadn't heard of an issue with this...). I echo others about the 20 way Comfort Seats - expensive but Oh So Nice. Incredibly customizable and very comfortable with over 500 miles of cruising today. The cooled seats on my Lincoln MKZ take 1-2 minutes to take effect and feel vaguely like sitting in a puddle of cold water - the BMW perforated leather Active Ventilated seats work immediately and significantly enhanced my comfort. Also, I frankly thought the "butt massager" was an extraneous feature, but I tried it since what the hell it comes with the ZAV package, and it actually helps to reduce numbness and fatigue. I was pleasantly surprised - I'll use it on long trips. Oh, and at the risk of starting another war, I don't mind the RFT's - After reading several posters vowing to never use run flat tires again I was apprehensive on this new car. Granted, I came from a BMW sedan with the Performance Package (tuned suspension) and 35 sidewall tires so I'm used to a bit of stiff ride, but I don't mind these RFT's at all (and no complaints from my wife either). I don't find them to be noisy (I got the Michelin LT's not the Bridgestone Duelers) and the ride is quite smooth.

Well I think that's about it for now, guys and gals- I hope this was informative for some and a nice share for others. I'll post more further into our 2800 mile driving bonanza. Until then-:thumbup:

LeMansX5 09-11-2009 07:40 AM

Nice pics. Thanks for write-up.

rh71 09-11-2009 08:00 AM

nice pics, I don't know why but I can't seem to get the good full-vehicle angles others do in their pics. I should try crouching down or something. ;)

motordavid 09-11-2009 08:28 AM

eyeguy,
Nice report and pics...glad you liked the area. Fog and/or sudden rain is pretty common this time of year.
If we ever get another BMW, I must do the PDC deal!
Very cool pic, 2nd to last, (and your Ava), of your new X5d, head on in the fog!
Enjoy the rest of your trip and keep it under a buck twenty and between the
fences!
GL,mD

Paydirtdog 09-11-2009 08:42 AM

Nice write-up and pics. Enjoy the rest of your trip.

FunfDreisig 09-11-2009 08:55 AM

Great write up. Makes me wish we'd done the PCD.

See, you finally get to look at pics in this forum of a beautiful Titanium Silver X5 -- yours :)

Funf Dreisig

Edge647 09-11-2009 08:56 AM

Great write-up...almost felt like I was there :popcorn:

BUT then I woke up and wiped that goofy smile off my face, realizing that the countdown continues for me.

Cheers

XXX555 09-11-2009 04:33 PM

Excellent write up and pictures! Thank you for sharing and good luck.

How did your wife enjoy the factory delivery tour/demo stuff? I'd like to convince mine to go but she just likes to be pampered by her Lexus RX450h and could care less about performance, BMW history and the features/workings in 'my' X5...

ODI69 09-11-2009 05:48 PM

:thumbup:Nice write up,PCD is the way to go .How much was that package ?Have a safe trip!

cmyX6go 09-11-2009 05:55 PM

Great write up, thanks. I'm in countdown mode to PCD also. :excited:

GoVols! 09-11-2009 05:56 PM

You took delivery in the same bay we did 3 weeks ago. Looks like you were using th breaks pretty heavilly unless that last picture was a few days later. Lots of dust... ;-)

bigx5er 09-11-2009 06:21 PM

Thanks for the write-up. Bummer the 2010s aren't being made yet.

Lubehead 09-11-2009 06:53 PM

Thank you for taking the time to share. Re the Michelin LT's, did you elect to have them or did they just happen to come with the car? On my '08 I replaced the first set at 40k with another set of LTs's. The first set was definitely at the end but I was happy with the mileage and performance.. I'd rather not have the Duelers if I can select the Michelins.

mtech8 09-11-2009 06:59 PM

Great Write-up! Thanks.

I wish I could have done a PCD too.

Quick question. So you got the Michelin LT's? I thought those were NON-RTF?

I have the Dunlop RTF's and really don't mind them at all. I'm lucky to drive on roads that don't make a lot of noise (I did run into a lot of noise once on a road with different type of pavement. That must have been what a lot of people are complaining about. Horrible noise). Like you, when coming from a STIFF 3 series into an X5. The X5, even with huge rims with stiff sidewalls, is very comfortable.

eyeguy 09-11-2009 11:08 PM

Thanks all for the replies. Sorry for all the grammatical errors in my original post- I was up late last night and just reread it. See below for some responses. First, we stopped tonight in Connecticut - wanted to make it to Boston but traffic likely relatd to 9/11 outside D.C. and NYC slowed us down. The traffic updates with the NAV weren't perfect but still helpful. Good news! Just rolled over 1200 miles so my right foot just got a bit heavier...:thumbup: Passing at highway speeds is almost instanteous just by gently goosing the diesel but I can't wait to get a bit more aggressive now...

Overall today, between Virginia and Connecticut with rolling terrain and some stop and go we achieved 27.6 MPG!!!:bmw: This with no spare tire, but with me, my wife, and about 150 lbs of gear. Very impressive, BMW...


Edge647 and cmyX5go: hang in there, it's worth the wait...:driver:

eyeguy 09-11-2009 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid (Post 659149)
eyeguy,
Nice report and pics...glad you liked the area. Fog and/or sudden rain is pretty common this time of year.
If we ever get another BMW, I must do the PDC deal!
Very cool pic, 2nd to last, (and your Ava), of your new X5d, head on in the fog!
Enjoy the rest of your trip and keep it under a buck twenty and between the
fences!
GL,mD

Thanks for the info on the area before this trip. I don't why I was worried about the availability of diesel nearby - this tank goes FOREVER...

eyeguy 09-11-2009 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunfDreisig (Post 659161)
Great write up. Makes me wish we'd done the PCD.

See, you finally get to look at pics in this forum of a beautiful Titanium Silver X5 -- yours :)

Funf Dreisig

Thanks;)
You know I asked my PCD advisor about your cargo bay door prop - BMW hasn't yet assigned it a part number :dunno::D

eyeguy 09-11-2009 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXX555 (Post 659294)
Excellent write up and pictures! Thank you for sharing and good luck.

How did your wife enjoy the factory delivery tour/demo stuff? I'd like to convince mine to go but she just likes to be pampered by her Lexus RX450h and could care less about performance, BMW history and the features/workings in 'my' X5...

My wife couldn't care less about the detailed presentation - she went to read a book. But she says to tell you that while your wife may find the tour and BMW hype excessive, she will likely really enjoy the on and off road driving experiences.

eyeguy 09-11-2009 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODI69 (Post 659318)
:thumbup:Nice write up,PCD is the way to go .How much was that package ?Have a safe trip!

Your post gets the best answer:

Performance Center Delivery is FREE!!! (after you get yourself to Spartanburg) The only catch is that you don't then get discounted the $825 destination charge - it applies whether you take advantage of PCD or take delivery at your local dealer (and if you do the PCD experience and then want to FLY back home, you make your own arrangements for transporation of your new car home...). I figure it's a wash for BMW but a rare treat for us. I'd HIGHLY recommend it-

eyeguy 09-11-2009 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoVols! (Post 659321)
You took delivery in the same bay we did 3 weeks ago. Looks like you were using th breaks pretty heavilly unless that last picture was a few days later. Lots of dust... ;-)

I saw my X5 in that glass bay the second we pulled into the parking lot - VERY COOL...

:rofl: - re: brake dust...those roads are very twisty and the brakes and suspension got a workout. I noticed this and tried to tell my wife today that I need to wash the car to get better pictures...in the middle of a road trip...in the rain today in New England. You might guess her response...:confused:

eyeguy 09-11-2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lubehead (Post 659336)
Thank you for taking the time to share. Re the Michelin LT's, did you elect to have them or did they just happen to come with the car? On my '08 I replaced the first set at 40k with another set of LTs's. The first set was definitely at the end but I was happy with the mileage and performance.. I'd rather not have the Duelers if I can select the Michelins.

I did not request the Latitudes but after reading on these and the Duelers it was my hope to get the LT's. Yes, they are RFT's, and seem to ride quite well.

piaabro210 09-13-2009 08:02 AM

You're definetly passionate about your X5, I enjoyed reading your write up. Thanks for sharing & good luck!

FunfDreisig 09-13-2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeguy (Post 659429)
Thanks;)
You know I asked my PCD advisor about your cargo bay door prop - BMW hasn't yet assigned it a part number :dunno::D

Yeah, BMW NA begged Funf Dreisig AG to be an OEM supplier but we told them to take a hike. After studying the threads on this site, we're certain that with a little more practice, we can bilk more dough out of dummies than BMW NA can :yikes:

After all, BMW NA still offers X5s in colors other than BLACK. Even Henry Ford knew that just slows down the assembly line. :rolleyes:

Funf Dreisig

BGM 09-13-2009 09:43 AM

Great write-up and congrats. That's interesting how you definitely can tell a difference between the Sport and non-Sport on Adaptive Drive. I'm sure you know BMWNA dropped that from the '10 Sport Package but you can get it add as a stand alone option for a hefty $3K. Maybe you can swing back to PDC for another trip and drop that in the Suggestion Box ;).

GoVols! 09-13-2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyeguy (Post 659438)
I saw my X5 in that glass bay the second we pulled into the parking lot - VERY COOL...

:rofl: - re: brake dust...those roads are very twisty and the brakes and suspension got a workout. I noticed this and tried to tell my wife today that I need to wash the car to get better pictures...in the middle of a road trip...in the rain today in New England. You might guess her response...:confused:


Probably the same response mine had last week. We were on our way back to Omaha from camping in the Rockies over Labor Day. During the "1" fuel-up I had to do roundtrip, ridiculous by the way, I noticed a bunch of dead bugs all over the grill and hood. She woke up while I was in the wash bay with a high pressure hose getting them all off. She said, "you know we're still 400 miles from home right?" My reply, "That's fine, I'll wash it again when we get there.":D I got a really nice eye roll before she fell back asleep for the rest of the drive.

eyeguy 09-15-2009 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoVols! (Post 659802)
Probably the same response mine had last week. We were on our way back to Omaha from camping in the Rockies over Labor Day. During the "1" fuel-up I had to do roundtrip, ridiculous by the way, I noticed a bunch of dead bugs all over the grill and hood. She woke up while I was in the wash bay with a high pressure hose getting them all off. She said, "you know we're still 400 miles from home right?" My reply, "That's fine, I'll wash it again when we get there.":D I got a really nice eye roll before she fell back asleep for the rest of the drive.


:rofl::rofl::rofl:
I got a wash in Salem, MA. We've traveled up through Gloucester and Boston, camping in Wiscasset and Bar Harbor Maine since my last post, then crossed over New Hampshire into Vermont and are tonight near Burlington Vermont. I have bug splats everywhere - it's starting to spoil the view. Tomorrow AFTER A WASH we're headed up to Montreal then across Canada to home near Minneapolis this weekend - the end to my first 2 week vacation EVER.

Love the new car - still averaging 24-27 MPG under all driving conditions with much more CRAP...er stuff...er souvenirs and gifts now. :D

Blair780 09-16-2009 09:30 AM

FWIW, an interesting thing we noted when we were experimenting with ingress and egress on the E70's with running boards is that the problem seems much more pronounced in the front seats then the rear. I don't know the reason for it but thought it was interesting.


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