Anyone interested in Back Up Camera system?
 

Hello,

I have media interface kit + oem style back up camera installed on my 09' M3 with new iDrive,

This kit will also work with X5/X6 1st gen iDrive (~2008) and 2nd gen iDrive (2009~),

It has 1 Rear Cam input, 1 AV out & 3 AV inputs, so you can hook up with your DVD or connect your iPhone/iPod Video and play movie/music video via OEM Nav screen.

Everything will be controlled via iDrive or steering wheel, no extra remote needed.

Please check out my system below, and reply your name if you are interested,

so I can see if I can get enough people to start this thing as group buy,

If I get more than 10 people, Price will be

1st gen kit (interface + back up cam) : $470
2nd gen kit (interface + back up cam) : $480

And here are installed pictures

OEM Style Backup Camera
http://home.comcast.net/~mentholguy/M3/cam/camdone2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~mentholguy/M3/cam/camdone1.jpg

This is a one-piece camera with new small micro trunk open switch, keep it OEM look and feel,

1/4 Sharp CCD lens (01.Lux), Plug and Play - No modification needed

http://home.comcast.net/~mentholguy/M3/cam/cam2.jpg

While in reverse,
http://home.comcast.net/~mentholguy/M3/cam/back1.jpg

While driving,
http://home.comcast.net/~mentholguy/M3/cam/back2.jpg

Looks good. Few questions:
1. Which brand of interface and camera is it?
2. Does this require any programming?
3. Do you have installation instructions?
4. Night pictures please?
5. Is it compatible with 2008 non-navi iDrive?

Thanks, here are answers,

1. It's called QDIS.
2. No coding/programing required.
3. I'll provide fully detailed DIY manual (which I'm working on now)
4. Please wait, It's not dark enought yet :D
5. Sorry but it's only for vehicles with Navi & iDrive factory installed.

waiting for night pictures....

I meant cars with iDrive but no navigation (smaller LCD). Will this work with those?

Here are night pictures..

http://home.comcast.net/~mentholguy/M3/cam/night1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~mentholguy/M3/cam/night2.jpg

I'll check and updat you! :thumbup:

Also, will it plug and play on a 2010 X5 without NAV system?

Hard to comment on quality of the night time view as there is plenty of light from the garage's illumination system. Would be interested in seeing night time pictures where the area is not illuminated by anything except the car's reverse lights.

Also, please post DIY instructions once you get them. The complexity of the DIY could be [not] a showstopper.

Thank you!

How did you align the camera. Talk w/BMW shop foreman the other day and they have an elaborate grid system they layout out behind the car to align/fine tune the camera and grid lines.

My guess is that the biggest market for a rear view camera in E70 X5s is people who do NOT have Navigation. Simply because (at least in 2009 and 2010) the only way you could/can get the OEM rear view camera was as part of the Technology package which included Nav.. Yes I know you could/can order NAV without the camera but my guess is that not many people, and almost certainly no dealers, ordered Nav standalone.

So I'd be very interested in an after market rear view camera but ONLY if it was plug and play with the existing wiring harness AND worked with the smaller non-NAV iDrive LCD screen on a 2009 35d.

Funf Dreisig

:iagree: I am in the same boat. I am eagerly awaiting the DIY instructions!

found this link from someone's post when I searched the letters "QDIS."
There is a youtube link as part of the post -- looks like the X6 who retrofitted the system did NOT have NAV, the screen looks smaller than the the ones I have in mine. So hopefully this will help answer those where did not have NAV.

Besides reverse camera, looks like the "media box" (you'd have to mount it somewhere) can allow 3 other RCA input (DVD player for the front screen, or night vision camer in the front as it was OP described)

I look forward to add this feature to mine if the instruction is not to complicated -- looks like that also mentioned there is a "pre-existing" hole for the camera instaed of being part of the hatch handle.

VIDEO of my Retrofitted rearview camera - XBimmers.com | BMW X6 Forum X5 X3 Forum

Great find! The X5 also has a pre-existing hole for the camera, adjacent to the hatch handle.

[QUOTE=wuzin;682942]
3. I'll provide fully detailed DIY manual (which I'm working on now)
[QUOTE]

Can't wait to see the instructions. Defintely something I'm interested in.

Does the camera boot up instantly when put into reverse (by passing the current idrive)? Does it interface/interfere with the current system at all?

Holy cow, it's like someone read my mind yesterday afternoon. That's my exact situation. I have a couple of years before I'm backing up to a trailer hitch again, but I really didn't realize how helpful such a kit would be until I starting using European underground parking garages.

This link might be of interest to you guys. $299 for the video module which works with or without the nav option.

BMW E90 1 Series - E90 3 Series - E60 5 Series - E63/E64 6 Series - E70 2007+ X5 - iDrive TV Nav Video Input Interface For iDrive. Connect a DVD Player, TV Tuner, Reverse Backup Video Camera, iPod Video, Aftermarket Navigation, Car PC Or Other AV Sou

They have a couple of different cameras although I found one on ebay which looks just like the oem camera on the X5 for only $79. They also have a similar camera as the original poster for $69.00!

170º Car Rear View CMD Camera Special for BMW X5 - eBay (item 280419879364 end time Dec-05-09 18:35:06 PST)

I emailed the seller and he claims this camera is a higher resolution than the oem. For $69 I guess it doesn't hurt to try it out...

I did it myself. I installed the multimedia interface and the rear camera as King shown the link below. It just looks like OEM where is the black plastic hosuing loccated on our E70 rear door. I will post some picutre of the rear camera, playing DVD and quality in complete dark.

170º Car Rear View CMD Camera Special for BMW X5 - eBay (item 280419879364 end time Dec-05-09 18:35:06 PST)

BTW, it will work also with non-Nav system like 6.5" screen. I have a 08 E70 with Nav but no rear came and PDC. Regarding how soon the backup came show up. I say very quick as soon as I move to "R". All plug and play and require no programming from dealer (that's the part i like most!)

The aftermarket backup cam solution is actually better than the oem i-drive setup! I have the oem camera, and the camera usually kicks in by the time I am DONE backing up and ready to go forward! The delay is unbelieveable! The aftermarket audio/video adapters have nothing to do with the i-drive...as soon as the reverse signal is detected, the camera will kick in! I am almost thinking of re-wiring mine with the GNET or similar adapter. Then again I'm also thinking about getting the new ///X5M :drool:

Amazing! This really helps. But the website says that the video interface comes with a 'Mode' button that allows switching between video sources. Does that mean one needs to drill a hole somewhere and install this button? I know that NAV-TV and QDIS allow switching between video sources by keeping the ↓ button on the steering wheel pressed for 3 seconds.

Off topic....I was just on Foster City Blvd last week!!! :thumbup:

any updates?

As you see the pictures. One was completely dark but picture quality no so good becasue was taken with my iphone, the others were from day time and watching DVD in motion (I have Nav 8" screen but you can set this up with non-Nav 6.5" screen with video and rear camera as well) I used different rear camera for my 08 X5 and it just make it completely looks like OEM. Since every X5 already came with the black plastic housing in the rear door.

The video unit came with 3 video inputs (DVD, PS3, Front camera, TV etc) 1 RGB for after market Nav and 1 dedicated input for rear camera when you shift to "R" will automatically display on the screen. All plug and play and no program required from dealer. Basically, this unit give you many features such as DVD, PS3, TV, output to two external monitors, front camera and dedicated rear camera. Control via iDrive and steering wheel * button.

The installation of the unit is pretty straight forward and I put it behind the compartment since I do not have the CD changer and there is a good spot for sitting the unit. The only part that requires more time and patience is running the rear camera cable from the unit all the way down to the rear hatch door.

If anyone is interested of the unit. I can get a group buy for $320 + shipping if there are 3+ more persons. This unit is made in Korea. Quality is much better than China or Taiwan make.

For camera, you can buy the one i am using from ebay for $79.
Note: I did not buy it from this guy and I paid way more than that before I found him but I assume it is same as what I got.

170º Car Rear View CMD Camera Special for BMW X5:eBay Motors (item 280419879382 end time Dec-05-09 18:35:10 PST)

Let me know if you need any help of how to install the unit and camera.

us_matrix

Definitely interested in getting instant on camera with better resolution. But I'm not sure how it works. Can you help clarify? I have a lot of questions.

My 08 current has the crappy BMW camera. I'm assuming that it's already wired to the car's iDrive system (or is it wired to something else)?

Scenario 1 - Only installing the video unit (to be able to get instant on).
Would it be possible to simply install the video unit and use the exisiting crappy backup camera?Would it be as simple as unplugging where the exisiting camera line goes into the system. Plugging that into the video unit, then plugging another line from the video unit to the system (where previously the camera was plugged into)? I'm just concerned about the pulling the line from the unit to the camera. Sounds complicated.

Nice! Do you want us to PM you?:stickpoke I would like to see instructions on actual installs (securing the unit behind the glove compartment). Don't need it at the moment since no unit yet plus a baby is on its way....

For my 08 X5, I do not have factory rear camera and only has factory Nav.

For your situation, you are trying to replace your factory one to after market. First of all, the connector is different. After market rear camera is composite connector but factory rearr camera are not. And also, I am not sure if you will get any error message since you have to unplug/disable your factory rear camera first before you setup the after market one. All in all, i think it will work (get you instant on) but not sure about how idrive system will throw you in with any error if you unplug/disable the factory one.

Regarding your Scenario 1 - It may not work because the connector (composite) of the dedicated rear camera from video unit is different.

BTW, It is not necessary to cut any wire at all. The video unit connect between CCC and Display screen.

Yes, anyone interested please PM me. I will send you an instruction to take a look. I do not even have to secure the unit at all and just sit tight in that spot from behind of the compartment.

BTW, It does not necessary to cut any wire at all. Just plug and play.

thanks for sending me the instructions. How did you run the video cable from the dash to the camera? Does this camera need 12V power?

Nice, I am looking at this too but would like to get away with it for under $100.

Dubs

You need to run two cables provided from the video unit and two cables from the rear camera. For the video unit, One for 12v power (Red) and I tapped it to the front cigarette ligther for 12v power and other one for ground (Black). For rear camera power, I tapped it to the rear cigarette lighter for 12v power and the other one for video signal from video unit all the way to rear hatch door. The reason I tapped to cigarette ligther was that they do not draw any power when key is removed they only draw power when key ignition is on and this is what we wanted.


I run the rear camera cable (video signal) through door sills (passenger side) then rear side panel and go through black rubber duct tape to rear hatch panel. All nice and clean.

Hello us matrix!

can you clear your mailbox?! :stickpokeMy PM is not going through becasue you've exceeded your mailbox storage...

Are you getting a lot of reponses for gruop buys?

Just cleaned up some.

I got many people asking about the unit. I hope to gather 5 or more persons to setup a group buy.

I'm interested in doing the group by. PM'ed you twice about the instructions. Did you get my PM's?

I will be up for a group buy for the right price. Please PM the instructions us_matrix

Whilst you're PM'ing, please flick one my way

thanks

Dubs

Please PM the instructions us_matrix.
Need an idea of what is involved it running wires from rear to the unit up front.
Want to know what parts I will break before I commit.
Thanks.

Hi all,

Getting a lot of people interested of the video unit and rear camera. In order to get the ball rolling. I think I should take 10% of deposit ($320 + shipping for the unit) to get the exact head count. I need 5 or more units in order to get this price and shipped. When I get 5 deposits, I will let you guys know to send me the rest of the payment in full before I ship. Prefer Paypal.

For the rear camera as you see the picture from my previous post. You can get it from me for $78 including shipping anywhere in US or from ebay (it looks same as what I got)

Instruction and installation tip for Video unit

I will provide factory instruction along with diagram for the video unit, hands-on instruction for how to remove the front panel, Nav screen and connection of the video unit.

Insutriction for running rear camera cable

I will provide insturction of how to remove door sills, rear side panel, rear door hatch panel for you to run the cable.

Note:

This will be perfect if you do not have OEM rear camera since the OEM plastic housing is ready for you to install the aftermakret camrea. But For anyone who want to replace their existing OEM camera, please check for yourself before you do it because I do not know how the E70 system react (error message or else) when you replace the OEM with aftermarket camera system.


Mugen

Us_matrix:

1.-Just want to clarify if those 320 includes shipping or is shipping extra?. Im located in New jersey 08330.

2.- How different is your module from this one:

BMW E90 1 Series - E90 3 Series - E60 5 Series - E63/E64 6 Series - E70 2007+ X5 - iDrive TV Nav Video Input Interface For iDrive. Connect a DVD Player, TV Tuner, Reverse Backup Video Camera, iPod Video, Aftermarket Navigation, Car PC Or Other AV Sou

Its basicaly the same price, but I rather buy it from you since you have done it already. is it the same module or a better one.


3.- Where do i send my reservation money?. In serious. Should we make a list?. or open a new group buy thread.

4.- Finally fix your links or PM the instructions since i wanna see what parts I will break before I start this project.

1.-Just want to clarify if those 320 includes shipping or is shipping extra?. Im located in New jersey 08330.

For Video multimedia interface

$320 plus shipping and shipping cost for priority mail to you would be $8

For the rear camera as you see the picture from my previous post. You can get it from me for $78 including shipping anywhere in US or from ebay (it looks same as what I got)


2.- How different is your module from this one:

BMW E90 1 Series - E90 3 Series - E60 5 Series - E63/E64 6 Series - E70 2007+ X5 - iDrive TV Nav Video Input Interface For iDrive. Connect a DVD Player, TV Tuner, Reverse Backup Video Camera, iPod Video, Aftermarket Navigation, Car PC Or Other AV Sou


I cannot speak for others they look almost the same in outside the case but with different wording. And one thing I like to let you know that most of them out there are made in China or Taiwan where they copy the one I am selling and using (Made in Korea). In quality, they cannot compare to the one that made in Korea. Why I knew that??? ;) I was just like everyone of you to check before I order and they replied Made in China or Taiwan.



Its basicaly the same price, but I rather buy it from you since you have done it already. is it the same module or a better one.


3.- Where do i send my reservation money?. In serious. Should we make a list?. or open a new group buy thread.

Yes, We can make a group buy thread under X5 froum.... I accept paypal. I hope you understand the reason why I want 10% ($30 deposit) and really get the ball rolling. I will let you guys know when I get 5 deposits and then you can pay in full before I order the units.

4.- Finally fix your links or PM the instructions since i wanna see what parts I will break before I start this project.[/QUOTE]

Did you get my instructions in email?
What year is your E70? Do you have OEM rear camera? 2010 requires different unit becasue of new iDrive

Ok. Here is the update of who have placed deposited for video interface unit and rear camera so far.

1. Jamiez
2.
3.
4.
5.

As soon as I receive 4 more deposits. I will let you guys know to pay the rest in full and then I will order the units and camera (It will take around 10 business days to get to you from the day I order).

Here is the spec of the unit.

Here is the update of who have placed deposits for video interface unit and rear camera so far.

1. Jamiez
2. PravM
3.
4.
5.

If anyone else interested. Let me know. This is perfect for E70 owners who do not has OEM rear camera at first place and also give you multmedia features.

Bump!

I am very interested in this. Have other people gone this route with their non-nav E70 X5? Are there potential electronic problems with the vehicle after installing aftermarket goodies?
Thanks.

I knew a guy who installed this unit on his 09 X6 Non-Nav without any issues. Here is the video. Enjoy! As you can see the screen is 6.5" instead of 8.8" Nav screen.

YouTube - BMW X6 Retrofit Rearview Camera into OEM System

Thanks for the video link. I like the system as shown.

Group buy list

1. Jamiez
2. PravM
3. Blackberry
4.
5.

us_matrix

Can you please send me the installation instructions for the video unit and the camera?

I'm really interested in replacing the exisiting factory camera with this setup. I understand your disclaimer about possible error with the system if the exisiting camera is removed. I'll deal with that.

But if I am able to remove the exisiting camera from my system w/o issue. Is it possible to install this new camera with a system that has nav and the larger screen?

Just pm you my e-mail address.

PM sent.

Yes, the system will work on OEM Nav or No Nav with 6.5" or 8.8" screen. That's not an issue.

The only part I am not sure about is replacing the OEM camera system to aftermarket.

Group buy list. Received 4 deposits as of today and just need one more to start group order. Should happens pretty soon.

1. Jamiez
2. PravM
3. Blackberry
4. Lei
5.

Updated! Got 5 deposits and should be letting you guys know to start order very soon. I am just waiting for one of the buyer who has a 2010 X5 to confirm some information with him.

Group buy list. Received 4 deposits as of today and just need one more to start group order. Should happens pretty soon.

1. Jamiez
2. PravM
3. Blackberry
4. Lei
5. shashank

US Matrix - is this order full?

I received 5 deposits already but I am just waiting for one of them to confirm his 2010 X5 new iDrive. If you are interested, paypal me as early as possible casue i will contact everyone for rest of the payment and order next week.

PM or email me with questions.

email sent. Please send me Paypal instructions for deposit also.

Jim M.

For those of you who placed deposit. I just sent you an email for ordering process.

in short, if we buy that ebay camera to replace what we have, we will instantly get the great nighttime resolution? I know errors may possibly pop-up... that's still up in the air...

The after rear camera has different connector than the OEM one. And also I saw a picture of the OEM camera unit before, the OEM camera is much bigger like a module unit.

us matrix, im glad this group buy worked out. send me the instructions to be in it. I just came back from vacation yesterday.

PM sent

payment sent ;)

I'm still a bit confused here. Are you guys buying these cameras to replace your stock cameras, or because your vehicles did not have cameras do begin with?

If you're replacing your stock cameras, what's the point? What is less grainy night vision going to do for you? Just curious? I too like to tinker, but if you already have a camera what gain is there, material terms?

We all did not not have factory camera to begin with.

For 2010 X5 Model
 

Hi us_matrix,

I'm a newbie and a new member of this forum. I'm glad to have found this thread. Is it confirmed that this video interface unit works with 2010 X5 model? As I don't have OEM Navigation, I'm very interested in this unit.

Regards.

Yes, they have two different unit. One for 07 - 09 X5 old iDrive and one for 10 new iDrive. Frist group buy already started and shipped. I just PM you for info.

Backup Camera for '10 x5 35d
 

hi us_matrix, are you planning to start a 2nd group buy soon? if so, i'm interested. could you please send me the details?

also, is this the same camera that you posted a few threads back:
170º Car Rear View CMD Camera Special for BMW X5 : eBay Motors (item 280461546687 end time Mar-07-10 21:53:20 PST)

do you have an installation guide for the '10 X5 already?

Yes, I can start a 2nd group buy. I will start taking deposit of $30 by paypal in order to get the ball rolling. As soon as I get 5 deposits. I will contact everyone of you to pay the rest to start the ordering process.

For the camera, I can get it for you same price $79 with free shipping.
For 2010 new iDrive, the unit is different with round connector and will cost little more. The group buy price is $350.

Give me your email and i will send you the instruction.

Video Interface Unit for 2010 X5
 

I understand that someone of you might have received the X5 video interface units ordered by us_matrix. I would appreciate it very much if you could post your feedback on the installation of the unit that works with the new iDrive of 2010 X5.

Thanks in advance.

SilentSea:

Sorry that I can't post any feedback yet on the installation.

I was "Tail-End Charlie", the last (I think) person to get in on the first buy. Everything that Raymond (us_matrix) did was first class, and shipped (by Raymond) promptly. So, I have the video interface unit.

Unfortunately, the Chinese had the audacity to schedule their New Year's celebration to conflict with their shipping of the camera. So we are delayed about one more week waiting for the Chinese to ship the camera.

I will post more information as soon as I get the camera and do the installation. Meanwhile, I suggest that you contact us_martix and have him send you the installation information package. I have a 2008 X5, but I understand that the major difference in the 2010 is that one plug is round, rather than flat. I'm not sure how they are handling that, either with an adapter and a new cable or with a different jack on the video interface unit. Maybe us_matrix can also give you more information on that.

One word of caution if you haven't read the entire thread. The price us_matrix is charging ($320.00 for video unit, plus $15.00 for shipping for the 2007-2009, $350 plus shipping for the 2010) DOES NOT include the camera (another $79, shipping included). That is clear in the thread, but only if you have read the whole thing.

Jim M.

i agree with jim M. Dealing with US Matrix has been excellent. He keeps you infomed about the status of the order, as well as diy instructions. I have not recieved the camera as of yet for the reason Jim M stated but have recieved the video unit. I live in the Toronto area , so my shipping was about $37. I plan to get the system installed at an auto elctronics
shop like Kromer Radio. On a side note, I have a non-nav 2009 x5 30i
and am wondering if the installation of this system affects the warranty
in any way on the X5 ?

Hi,

Can I be added to the second group please? I have a 2010 with Media but without the reverse camera. I would be very interested in seeing the fitting instructions please?

Many thanks

Hi,

Just email you with instruction and 2nd group buy info.

I am interested in this system too while waiting for my 2010 x5 diesel to be delivered around end of Feb. Have the same concern over voiding the factory warranty. Does anybody know the answer?

Also a newbie question: I see a lot of people here discussing all kinds of mods to their X5, would it be a problem in terms of warranty and insurance? I am shopping for insurance on my X5, they do ask the question whether the car has been modified. Thanks,

1. BMW recommends not to connect BMW unapproved aftermarket electronic devices to your car, as they may interfere with the car's electronics, since everything is computer controlled.
2. Being said that, in case you have any electronics related problem, I would recommend you remove any of these connections before taking your car to the dealer for service.
3. Regarding other mods, yes they do void the warranty...in some cases the warranty gets voided only for the replaced parts, but in some cases it may also result in much more than that...e.g you install aftermarket brake pads, BMW will void the brake warranty ;)
4. Insurance companies tend to charge more for cars that have been modded.

Thanks a bunch Shashankmittal. Sounds too much for a newbie like me. Guess I will hold off on these mods for now.:dunno:

Regarding concern to warranty. Any kind of manufacturers would do that same thing if they see anything other than OEM. However, I did not cut any wire to setup the system and all I did just wire tap to the existing wire. That way, I can always remove it in case i need to bring in for warranty service

I changed the stock low beam light bulb to aftermarket white xeon bulb for my previous car (E350), when I drove in for maintenance they noticed one of them were blown out. They told me that they will not replace it since it is aftermarket. Anything that is after market they will not touch it.

How are we getting on the second group buy please?

Sorry, I was out of town.

In fact, 2nd group buy already started and I have received one deposit so far and have other people interested to be in group buy.

I will PM you with the details

2nd group buy

1. Steve
2.
3.
4.
5.

Ok, I guess I am the first one who has completed the installation of the video interface and camera, so here are couple of things that I would like to share with everyone:

1. The video interface has excellent build quality and comes with all necessary cables. You might need to solder and attach longer cables to the interface CAN wires or else it will be difficult to connect the interface to the BMW CAN wires.
2. The BMW_PIP.pdf documentation shows that the interface has a wireless remote. But actually the interface comes with a wired keypad that can be used to change any settings if necessary and then can be unplugged. You'll hardly ever need to use the keypad again!
3. There are some mistakes in BMW_PIP.pdf, so while making connections, be extra careful.
4. There are couple of permutations/combinations that you would need to try with the DIP switches and modes, etc to make the whole setup work. It took me almost 2 hours after making all connections to finally get it working. Sometimes the video would show up, but iDrive would not work, sometimes the steering wheel controls would not work and sometimes it would just show a black screen.
5. The eBay camera has built-in parking guide lines (blue color lines with distance in inches), so you'll need to turn off the parking guide lines superimposed on the video (colorful lines) by the interface. If you need to disable camera's parking guide lines, then just cut the blue wire in the camera.
6. I installed the video interface behind the CD player (below the vent). There is a good spot for it there, specially for those who have a CD changer in the glove box. I actually have a crossover for my aftermarket speakers behind the glovebox, so could not fit the interface there.
7. I supplied 12V power to the camera from the reverse taillight using a relay, so that the camera gets powered on only when the reverse gear is engaged. Connecting the camera to anything else might result in the camera receiving power all the time, which is not a good idea.
8. The delay between engaging the reverse gear and the video showing up on the screen is about 1.5 seconds (I used my iPhone stopwatch to measure it). I don't know if this is better than BMW backup camera system's delay.
9. The toggle switch is optional and is used to switch between different video sources. This can be done using the down arrow on the steering wheel, so the installation of this switch can be skipped.
10. This is more relevant for people who are getting the eBay camera: The video quality is acceptable, not too great, but not bad either. I still have to do some more testing in daylight, but night time performance was descent. The build quality is amazing and it blends perfectly with the exterior. The camera has a glossy black finish and doesn't look aftermarket once installed. I am glad BMW provides a spot for it in the trunk hatch so that we don't have to cut out the metal sheet or drill any holes.

...and finally, thanks us_matrix for taking the initiative and getting this done. Your documentation was extremely helpful! I could not have completed the installation without it and I was extremely impressed with your superfast responses to my emails!

Good job :thumbup: and glad to hear that everything workout for you!

hi,
some fotos would be good.....

form the camera mounted and when it is showing the image on the screen
thx

Thanks for sharing your experience.

2nd group buy update!

1. Steve
2. slientsea
3. Mugen
4.
5.

Round Connector for 2010 X5
 

In waiting for us_matrix to order the video interface unit for 2010 X5, today I removed the built-in screen unit from the front panel to make sure that I really get a round connector (as opposed to the flat connector for the previous models). I'm pleased to report that the screen unit of 2010 X5 is truly equiped with a round connector as shown in the picture I took.

Really want to jump aboard with this mod.

Thanks US_Matrix. I finally got your e-mail of the instructions.

Just wondering if this is possible:
Can I physically move my exisiting camera and place it somewhere in my truck (so that iDrive still recognizes it and does not throw any faults), then install the system in this thread?

It sounds like the new video interface & camera just hijacks and takes priority of the output to the screen (so it doesn't matter what is actually being displayed by iDrive in the background (even if it is the exisiting camera's video output).

I really would like to have a faster activating camera with better resolution.

Can anyone think of any reason why my propsed solution (for people with exisiting cameras) might not work?

It sounds possible to me... i guess the factory camera must be activated (display on screen) by pressing the button. For aftermarket camera system, it simply activate by itself as soon as you shift to "R".

I wish i could give you more insight but I am not 100% sure......

Kind of an elaboration over the previous question I posted.

So I'm looking over the install of the video unit. It looks like the LVDS Cable is what connects the iDrive to the display.

Essentially, we take the LVDS cable from the iDrive and put it to the video unit. Then, take a new LVDS cable from the video unit to the screen. Is it safe to assume that the original camera is still connected to the iDrive? So essentially I don't even need to remove the camera from the original system (except physically from the rear to free up space for the new camera).

So when the car is put into reverse, there is some kind of signal from the iDrive that passes through the original LVDS to the video unit? or how does the video unit know that it is in reverse?

It actually sounds pretty safe to me as we are just placing something in between the iDrive and the screen. Nothing that would relay any input into the iDrive. Am I understanding this correctly?

So what is the price of the 2nd group buy?

I see a few numbers throughout the thread (too lazy to ready through everything again to figure it out).

Video unit for MY 07-09 old iDrive is $320 + shipping.

The after market rear camera is just a video input to the video unit. But again, I cannot tell for sure about how the original camera perform.

Cool. Thanks US_Matrix.

Btw, does anyone know how complicated it is to run wire for the camera? What panels do I need to remove? As detailed instructions as possible is greatly appreciated!

Are we any closer to getting a group buy?

Hi,

We have 3 deposits now. Just waiting 2 more to get start. If you are interested to get the ball rolling. Paypal $30 as deposit to get started. Or any questions, PM me.

Will order for 2nd group buy this week. Let me know if anyone like to join.

bump

I thought I would post some images of the rear camera I had installed. Thanks to us_matrix for his help in getting the system to work properly. He gets a big thumbs-up for his knowledge, and quick response to email questions. The camera turns on right away when placed in reverse.

DID you have to cut the black cover plate in the base of the camera to make it fit to the tailgate or was the OEM space big enough?.

Someone mention to cut the blue cable to remove the blue lines. I dont see the blue cable in my camera, do I have to open the camera and cut it from inside?. Do you know?.

I did not have to do any cutting for the camera to fit. As for cutting cables, I would not recommend cutting anything. For more complete answers you should PM us_matrix.

Had a question.. I have that lieele plastic cover on the rear where this backup camera goes. seems to be stuck on with some weak double sided tape. do you just pull that off and stick the camera in there? I see from youir pic that you seem to have a black ring around your camera where the camera touches the body. Does that ring/mount come with the camera?

Would be interested. Who sells them?

Figured it out.. In case anyone else is wondering there is a grommet that sits in the hole where the camera pops into. Part number 66539187808 for my X5. Seems some come with it already there, but mine came with a square plastic peice which is just stuck on with double sided tape.. cost 26.09 at the local dealer.. about 9 bucks online shops.. FYI..

Just got this unit from a friend and having a hard time getting it to work. I have the can cables connected correctly and acc and ground ar eright, but keep getting a red light on the led on the interface. Tried many many different combo's for the dip, but couldn't get a green light or any video on the screen.
2010 X5 no nav, smaller screen.. ANy help would be appreciated

You are getting power if red light on. When you shift to "R", what happend to the screen? Blank? Flash in a second or no change at all? If the DIP setting is correct based on the instruction. You may want to double check the connection of the rear camera. It may be loose connection.

Thanks for the reply Matrix. When i shift in to R nothing at all happens.. screnn doesn't flinch.. tried with video on a portable player as well and showed nothing. Also couldn't get into any menu's at all. jsut shows the normal BMW screen on the lcd..

Your X5 is 2010 with new iDrive right? Did you double check the interface you got is compatiable with new iDrive? The interface connection should be like a square for new iDrive. Did you try pressing and holding the Menu button for few seconds to see if the screen is doing anything?

Yes this is for the new Idrive. Not sure which connection your talking about. I know it has a round connector for the LCD. the connections to the can areas are 4 wires. can high, los ground and acc. I didn;t hook up the safe and rear camera hook-up since it was suppose to be done through i drive. The other end of that is a rectagular connector that plugs into the QSID unit.. also the manual that came with the interface shows an option in the menu to switch from old and new idrive.. Thanks for your help Matrix. Will try to hold the menu button down for a bit to see if it does anything. will check back in after..

sorry Matrix were you talking about the connection that the can wires lplug into the LCD? that connector is rectangular. Similar to the end that plugs into the QSID unit but black.

Yes, it is rectangular. It has been a while since i installed last time. If i remember right. I only ran wire for ACC, Gnd, CAN H/L. Rear camera just used the A/V input (Rear-C label) and camera power from rear 12v.

us_matrix, the video interface that I purchased as part of your first group buy has developed some problems in the last one month. It frequently looses the standard iDrive display signal and the screen thus goes blank. Switching the gear to Reverse and then back to Drive brings up the iDrive screen back to life, but then it again becomes blank after few seconds. On top of this, sometimes the whole screen becomes blue and then becomes normal after few seconds. I disconnected the video interface and tested everything for about a week and none of the above problems could be reproduced.
Could you please get in touch with the manufacturer and get my unit replaced as it is still under warranty?

Just PM you.

Update.. so i guess i had a misconnection somewhere, but now I was able to get to the menu jsut fine. I can get av1, av2 and av3 working with a dvd player just fine, but the rear backup camera doesn't show. I am using it through CAN connection. I have set the dip properly as well as the setting in the menu as cvbs4 on (down) and in the menu as CAN. Still ntihng comes up. Even tried connecting the dvd video plug in place of the back-up camera still nadda. The screen just seems to go back to the main BMW menu screen showing radio, telephone ect... I also tried connecting the Main wire to have it switch with the reverse light, but still nuttin. Any ideas?
TIA

finally figured it out. Have to put the car into e90 mode for this to work on these smaller screen of mine. works like a charm now.. BTW I have a couple interface units for sale going for 200.00 plus shipping.. look in for sale forum for details.

have 2010 unit (round connector) Sold

pre 2010 square connector have 3 of them Still here..

also have one backup camera (replaces one of the license plate lights. I opted to use the smaller looki9ng camera that goes in the factory cut hole in the trunk. (free with the first interface) Sold

Actually can't sell on that area of the forum.. so if ya want more details PM me.. thanks..

this group buy still going on?

i have a 2010 x5 and would need the camera and interface module to go along with it.

PM'd ya

Yeah I'd like to get this set up also.
I have an '07 X5 with Nav, but no camera.
Please let me know if there is still a buy going on or what I need to buy from where.
Thanks in advance.

Can someone post up a review on this? Both final result and if you have any comments on the install, I'd really appreciate it.
I'm mechanically inclined but also not sure how I feel about pulling the screen out and messing with electronics on my mobile mainframe that I still owe on.
The instructions looked like some of the screens are in Chinese or Korean...is that right?
Any walkthrough of actual install would be sweet.
Thanks a bunch.

i am interested is this still available ??
Need complete set for backup camera

did u DIY or hire someone? looks very good. i wanna do this too lol

please anyone here?

We offer the VSM systems on our website - compatible with all e70 X5 models:

eas - Video Source Module (VSM) - e70 X5, including X5M (MY08-MY10)
eas - 714.369.8524 | eas - Video Source Module (VSM) - e70 X5, including X5M (MY08-MY10)



This video is from a 2008 M3, but will operate similarly on the X5.

i see your in America and we are in Europe, dont know if i order from you i have to pay tax or not ?
And if we do a COMBINED buying here again from you can you offer us better price with a reverse camera included?

VAT is not required on US purchases, but there may be Customs/Duties charges from your carrier.

We are open to a possible group buy, kits and cameras are already in stock. :thumbup:

please send us the best price for both camera and interface, and how many people that has to do the combine buying to retrieve that price?

Hi,

I went to an audio/Video specialist for the install.

Is this setup still available? The link above did not produce any content. Thanks.

Isnt there yet aftermarket replacement plug and play camera?

Are mr matrix working on the 2nd or third group now. I would like to add this to my vehicle

faulty camera .. still poping up from time to time ... any idea before i open the tailgate ..?

A little late into the game but was this the unit that US_MATRIX was selling?


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