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Umelen 11-29-2009 11:10 PM

Retrofit telephone docking cradle
 
Hi
I have a 2009 X5 48i, I have Bluetooth and BMW assist, I want to buy a(Eject Box) so I can put the snap in adapter for the specific phone I have, this cradle will have pwer and also the antenna connection, when I removed the cover to see if there was any wiring inside to connect could not see any.
What do I have to do, if wiring is needed do I have to take the console out, any help and ideas and/or schematics will be highly appreciated

The description of the cradle: docking cradle allows the use of phone "snap-in" adapters for charging the phone battery and connecting to an external phone antenna. Once the complete phone kit is installed, snap-in adapters can be changed in a matter of seconds to accommodate different phones. Vehicle must be equipped with Premium Package or BMW Assist with Bluetooth wireless technology.


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jollymon6672 12-21-2009 10:42 AM

You need the support frame, the eject box, and the snap in adapter for your model of phone. I am in the middle of doing to and just found out a third piece was needed. What a pain.

DINOONE 12-21-2009 12:08 PM

Can anyone take pictures of this mod? I saw it and I was wondering what it looked like and where it was installed?

omasou 12-21-2009 12:46 PM

In talking w/service the other day, I was told, that a phone connecting through Bluetooth uses the external antenna.

So adding an ejector box and snap-in adapter is really only a $400 convenience. And if you have 6FL instead of 6NF you loose the iPod functionality of an iPhone. Lastly, I would still probably keep forgetting the iPhone in the cradle like I do now when I plug it into the cable.

My solution was a new iPod Nano (5G). $150 done.

Umelen 12-25-2009 08:30 AM

Hi

Thank you for the response,

Did you have to buy parts for wiring or when you removed the plastic cover inside the the console the coneectors were there?


Quote:

Originally Posted by jollymon6672 (Post 693226)
You need the support frame, the eject box, and the snap in adapter for your model of phone. I am in the middle of doing to and just found out a third piece was needed. What a pain.


ard 12-25-2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slafredo (Post 693275)
In talking w/service the other day, I was told, that a phone connecting through Bluetooth uses the external antenna.

So adding an ejector box and snap-in adapter is really only a $400 convenience. And if you have 6FL instead of 6NF you loose the iPod functionality of an iPhone. Lastly, I would still probably keep forgetting the iPhone in the cradle like I do now when I plug it into the cable.

My solution was a new iPod Nano (5G). $150 done.

1. You actually think that "service" at a BMW dealer and/or BMWNA knows WTF they are talking about??!?!

2. Take a moment to think about what you are saying: Somehow, when the phone connects to the BT (this is the same BT that connects to your earpiece, for example) it somehow "moves" the whole 'cellular radio system' from the phone to the car...so when it connects, the cell phone stops the call and a call is now being handled by the car's cellular connection? Oh, and it 'knows' if it is a GSM call or a CDMA call (ie att or verison) and uses the 'right' electronics....

or the antenna 'connection' (a .85 or 1.9GHz signal) is processed as now a BT signal (ruuning at 2.4Ghz)? ie not possible.

Just because a dealer employee says it, don't just take it as fact....

omasou 12-25-2009 03:54 PM

Your not making any sense.

So if I hardwire my phone to the car, which disables the phone's internal antenna and uses the car's network and antenna. It will work.

But if I connect to the same network through BT it would work differently.

OK?

FunfDreisig 12-25-2009 04:44 PM

All the BMW bluetooth stuff does is make your X5 into a very expensive hands free device AND pretty clunky computer connected to your phone via bluetooth :)

Funf

ard 12-25-2009 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slafredo (Post 694705)
Your not making any sense.

Thought I was...

Quote:

Originally Posted by slafredo (Post 694705)
So if I hardwire my phone to the car, which disables the phone's internal antenna and uses the car's network and antenna. It will work.

The BMW snap in most likely provides a 'loop antenna pick up' to connect the phone antenna to the roof. The phones antenna isn't disabled, it is just 'linked' to the roof antenna.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slafredo (Post 694705)
But if I connect to the same network through BT it would work differently.

Different "network"... a BT connection ONLY passes audio data (ie microphone and speaker info, "IN" and "OUT") between the phone and the car...this is 20kHz information, easily handled bt a BT link.

All BT does is act like a BT headset.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slafredo (Post 694705)
OK?

Yep.


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