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Tangfish 02-02-2010 01:28 AM

Will going with 22"s ruin my ride?
 
Hey guys (and gals). I'm thinking of putting on Beyern 22" Mesh wheels on my Space Grey X5 35d. But, I'm a little concerned that doing so will not leave me enough rubber. The local shop told me that if I go that route, I'll end up with 285/35/22 tires (and they recommend the Yokohama Prada Spec X tires). Has anyone put 22s on their X5? If so, did you notice a much louder or rougher ride? I'm worried about bending the rims or ending up having an SUV that has to look out for every little pothole or bump in the road. At the same time, I think that this looks awesome.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/...866c6dab_o.png

My other option being considered is to go with some replica OEM wheels that are fairly inexpensive, which isn't a bad option but I won't get the same look. Unfortunately, I just really don't like the 19s that my ride came with.

What do you guys think, should I roll with the 22s, and keep my stock wheels for Winter driving, or just go with 20s and sell the stock setup? Any feedback on either the Beyern wheels or better quality replicas?

Thanks

Tangfish 02-02-2010 07:48 PM

Just talked to the wheel/tire shop today. They said that I might be able to get away with 285/40/22s, but it would be tight. Anyone ever put tires on this size? If so, does it rub?

Naz24 02-02-2010 07:54 PM

well BMW makes 21" wheels for the X5 as an option, i do not see why you couldnt go with 22s? there are people who have done it. I personally have 20s and think theyre big enough (but i do have the older gen X5) Go for the 22s, i think they'll look great. And just be careful around pot holes.

beyern is a great company for rims, you wont be disappointed

Tangfish 02-02-2010 07:59 PM

Thanks! I plan to keep my stock wheels/tires for winter driving. The thing I'm trying to decide on right now is tire size for the 22"s.

Naz24 02-02-2010 08:01 PM

265/35 R22x9 Front
295/30 R22x10 Rear

Is that a possible solution? Theres a guy selling HRE 640Rs in the Classified section with wheels that came off his 2004 X5 with those sizes, i'm sure you can get them to fit your new one


heres the link http://www.xoutpost.com/classifieds/...-hre-640r.html

Tangfish 02-02-2010 08:04 PM

That looks nice. What I'm trying to avoid is having too little sidewall. So, right now I'm deciding between 285/35/22 (recommended) and 285/40/22 (might be tight).

Naz24 02-02-2010 08:46 PM

i wouldnt go with the 40s. i think it might be too tight. You might end up having rubbing issues--but i'm no expert

LeMansX5 02-02-2010 09:11 PM

Pics of 22" iForged wheels

http://www.iforgedlifestyle.com/images/bx51.jpg

http://www.iforgedlifestyle.com/images/bx52.jpg

Tangfish 02-02-2010 09:14 PM

Do you know what the tire size is? Looks like there's still plenty of room in the wheel wells.

LeMansX5 02-02-2010 09:21 PM

This is the info I have on wheels:

VIP iForged Triumph
Black Center with Chrome Lip
22×9.5
22×11

Tangfish 02-02-2010 09:30 PM

Hrm.. that doesn't tell me anything about the tires - but one thing I thought I wasn't able to do was have staggered wheels with the x-drive. Maybe they matched the rolling diameters up really well.

toohotdoc 02-02-2010 09:31 PM

22's look small on a E70. I would personally stick to a 21" Wheel so a nice thick tire can be used.

Tangfish 02-02-2010 09:35 PM

I'm trying to avoid the big wheel/small rubber band tire look, like you mentioned, by going with a higher sidewall and thus more rubber.

LeMansX5 02-02-2010 10:33 PM

Call them and find out
iForged Performance Wheels | The next generation in forging technology - Global Site

shashankmittal 02-02-2010 10:35 PM

I have 22"x10" wheels and I use 295/30/22 tires on them. These are closest to my stock 255/55/18 in terms of radius, circumference, revs/mile and most importantly my speedometer reads the car's speed correctly without recalibration.
Check Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing to compare your stock tire size with what you are looking to buy and choose whatever is closest to your stock tires.

The ride with 22" will definitely be firmer than stock 'high-profile' tires, but if you want looks and performance, this is the way to go! If you want to retain the off-road capability, then do not put anything bigger than 18", 19"/20" might be a good mix of off-road + performance + looks.

I would also suggest keeping the stock wheels for winter usage. Low profile tires are better in summers, your stock 19" will do wonders in snow with winter tires on them.

Tangfish 02-02-2010 10:40 PM

Wow, thanks for that info. I completely forgot about the speedometer and what would happen if I went up in diameter too much!

azwcat 02-03-2010 01:06 AM

I would not go up too much in overall tire diameter from stock. 285 40 22 is a big difference (31"). 285 35 22 (29.9"). Stock is 29".

I rode on 285 35 22s with Parada Spec X's before, and the ride is not bad. Spec X is a great tire.

toohotdoc 02-03-2010 04:56 AM

The rolling diameter and other specs depend on tire size and wheel widths. 285/35/22 maybe be a good size if the wheels are 22x10.5. I personally get some staggered wheels if you want to go for the 22s just so that you can use a narrower tire on the front so not much is compromised. GL

toohotdoc 02-03-2010 04:58 AM

Oh and another thing, different tire companys with the same sized tires have different specs. Choose a good tire and you wont be dissapointed. I have tried a couple of brands and lets just say you get what you pay for. Keeping that in mind, try to choose a stiffer sidewall and a wide tire.

Tangfish 02-03-2010 05:01 AM

The Beyern Mesh wheels I'm after are either 9.5 or 11 width. I'm thinking that if I go with the 9.5 hopefully they won't rub with 285/40/22 tires, and yes, I'm getting the Yokos which I've heard are good. I was going to do the same all around since I'm worried that going staggered will be bad for the x-drive. Also, even though it may affect my speedometer is there a way to calibrate the speedo? I read up on another thread that there's often a 4MPH or so error rate that BMWs read that they're going faster than they actually are. Here's the thread:
Speedometer Calibration - Page 2 - bimmerfest - BMW Forums

Michelle 02-03-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 708070)

:luv: :hawt:

X-cellent 02-03-2010 12:00 PM

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My buddy has 22" staggared Hartge Classic II's. He also dropped the truck with a set of Hartge links and springs, and the ride is very rough and he's already "squared" one wheel on our roads down here, which are pretty good as we have no frost heaves or the like to deal with. He's running Continentals - non-runflat...

I'm running stock 20"s (214) on Dumslop RFT's and my ride, even in sport mode, is much better. Most of this can be attributed to the lowering springs, but without lowering it there is a lot of room in those wheel wells.

Tangfish 02-03-2010 03:00 PM

X-cellent, that's a tight ride. Is it your friend's or yours? I'm thinking that if guys are getting away with putting 22s on *and* lowering their rides, I should be able to do 22s w/ 5 extra on the sidewalls and not have too much of a rubbing problem. Of course, I'll find out once I try it. I still wonder about the speedometer though.

X-cellent 02-03-2010 05:46 PM

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It's my business partners, mine is white. Like all have said, you have to watch the rolling diameter of the wheel otherwise you can throw off speedo as well as have clearance issues and who knows what else.

He did the Conti's at 295/30/22 and 325/25/22 i think..he's not in the office so I can't cheat and look.

My buddy loves the way it looks, hates the ride sometimes as it's very harsh with the rear links. Best part is his Hartge exhaust...sounds wicked!

I was the one who found the Hartge gear, but he moved faster....my X is stock, lease is almost up, then on to an X5M..either white over sakhir or maybe individualized with blue full leather...hopefully US can order them that way for 2011.

Best of luck...take pictures!

XXX555 02-03-2010 08:54 PM

Nice post and pics. :)

After I read the above, I found this (October 2009):

Hartge Tunes BMW X5 xDrive35d to 328hp

Tangfish 02-05-2010 07:27 PM

Alright, here I am at the wheel/tire shop and they're test fitting the 285/40/22 Yokohamas. For backup, if they don't fit *fingers crossed* we have the full set of 35 series tires. Will let you all know shortly!

Tangfish 02-05-2010 07:36 PM

Dang. The 40s didn't fit. They couldn't even mount the wheel, b/c the tire ran into the joint arch that juts out just above the wheel/tire. :dunno:

Okay, 285/35/22s clear just barely, and they turned the wheels L/R and it fits without rubbing, also just barely. Well, I guess I figured out what the max size wheel/tire is that will fit on an X5! :rofl:

Tangfish 02-05-2010 11:00 PM

Okie doke, here are the photos I promised:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2688/...ed1c89d2_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/...0a75e4ca_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/...88a11c65_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2692/...e463f02e_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/...566de393_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/...8692ce25_o.jpg

Rides just fine. I did hear a rub *once* when cranking it and backing down the slope of the driveway, but I tried to reproduce it and I couldn't.

Thanks for all the advice fellas.

Tangfish 02-07-2010 03:55 PM

Alright, after a day or two of driving I found out what that noise was. Apparently the driver's side front wheel well has less room than the passenger side (which is the side they did the test fit on). I've been hearing a loud cracking sound every once in awhile, while backing up to the left. I found out that what this sound is are these plastic slats (sort of like window shades) cracking off from my tire rubbing on them. There is a large plate of plastic slats to the front of that left-side wheel well. About 5 of them have cracked off so far.

Does anyone know what these slats are for? They don't seem super protective since there's about an inch of space between each one of them, but since they're angled maybe they keep rocks from flying forward to hit the stuff behind the plastic slats. Anyway, I hope that having 5 or 6 of the slats missing isn't a big deal. It looks like the tire makes (or made) contact in a very specific spot, and that now that these slats are gone it won't continue to smack them.

Any thoughts?

EdmBimmer 03-26-2010 04:05 PM

Bump.

To the OP, did you consider 275's?

Tangfish 03-26-2010 04:15 PM

Well, 5 or 6 of those plastic bits broke off and it doesn't rub anymore. so, I guess I'm good to go!

ard 03-26-2010 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tangfish (Post 726639)
Well, 5 or 6 of those plastic bits broke off and it doesn't rub anymore. so, I guess I'm good to go!

Perfect.:wow:

EdmBimmer 03-26-2010 07:10 PM

Hehe, if I go that route I'll probably throw some spacers in to give it some space.

Tangfish 03-27-2010 01:46 AM

I don't know if that would necessarily help. I think having 275s like dude said might be the way to go. Remember, have them test fit on the driver's side!

janpaul2010 09-27-2010 11:38 AM

Hi mate, i have a 2001 e53 3.0i with 22s on it, no probs at all

ryanjoe13 06-20-2015 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 708070)

Does anyone know if the x5 in this picture is at stock height or if it's been lowered?

Kinda looks stock to me...?

ryanjoe13 08-18-2015 01:57 AM

Tang fish what is your offset? 9.5s in the front?

Tangfish 08-18-2015 05:26 PM

same size all the way around

Yokohama Parada Spec-X 285/35/22

Only issue was rubbing/snapping off of louvres on the driver's side front well (only that side) due to it being a 3.5D I'm guessing gas versions wouldn't have this problem.

ryanjoe13 08-18-2015 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tangfish (Post 1048184)
same size all the way around

Yokohama Parada Spec-X 285/35/22

Only issue was rubbing/snapping off of louvres on the driver's side front well (only that side) due to it being a 3.5D I'm guessing gas versions wouldn't have this problem.

Do you know what offset your wheels are?

Tangfish 08-18-2015 06:13 PM

Yes, 9.5, these wheels:
Mesh BMW Wheels by Beyern


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