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rufusdedog 04-14-2010 05:28 PM

High Battery Drain - Solved?
 
Had the car at the dealer since Thurs for the "High Battery Drain" issue. The service manager personally checked it out, ran all the diags in SIBs. The result:

Replaced Battery 61-21-7-594-976 (made in Italy)
Replaced Battery Cable 61-12-9-215-954
Replaced Battery Cable 61-12-9-217-004
Replaced IBS and BST (no part nrs, one is Intelligent Battery System, no idea what the other is).

Negative battery terminal cracked causing corrosion on IBS.

No idea how the battery cracked. It's held down tight and to be honest, I've been remiss and have never even looked at it since it's out of sight. Hopefully this will be the fix. I'll post if the warning returns.

brisbmw 04-14-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rufusdedog (Post 732561)
Had the car at the dealer since Thurs for the "High Battery Drain" issue. The service manager personally checked it out, ran all the diags in SIBs. The result:

Replaced Battery 61-21-7-594-976 (made in Italy)
Replaced Battery Cable 61-12-9-215-954
Replaced Battery Cable 61-12-9-217-004
Replaced IBS and BST (no part nrs, one is Intelligent Battery System, no idea what the other is).

Negative battery terminal cracked causing corrosion on IBS.

No idea how the battery cracked. It's held down tight and to be honest, I've been remiss and have never even looked at it since it's out of sight. Hopefully this will be the fix. I'll post if the warning returns.


LOL, had mine in for the exact same thing. Dealer replaced my battery, which did not fix the issue. Took it back again and BMW just released a service advisory sw update that resolved the issue. I guess the car was waking up more then it should, thus the high battery drain.

rufusdedog 04-14-2010 07:04 PM

Updated all the software too. Did it help you?

apw2607 04-14-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brisbmw (Post 732573)
LOL, had mine in for the exact same thing. Dealer replaced my battery, which did not fix the issue. Took it back again and BMW just released a service advisory sw update that resolved the issue. I guess the car was waking up more then it should, thus the high battery drain.

Do you have the SI B number ?

ard 04-15-2010 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rufusdedog (Post 732561)
Replaced IBS and BST


(no part nrs, one is Intelligent Battery System, no idea what the other is).

.

No part numbers?!?!? That is pretty bad... how can BMW give you a work order saying they replaced something and not tell you what it was?


Sigh.

FunfDreisig 04-15-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rufusdedog (Post 732561)
.....Replaced IBS and BST (no part nrs, one is Intelligent Battery System, no idea what the other is)....

Hmmm...
I wonder if the IBS is the actually the Intelligent Battery SENSOR :dunno:

Quote:

Intelligent Battery Sensor (IBS)
The intelligent battery sensor has the same scope of functions as the intelligent battery sensor in the predecessor models.

The software in the IBS controls the functional procedure and communication with the higher-ranking control unit(engine management). During vehicle operation, the IBS sends data via the bit-serial data interface (BSD) to the engine management.

Among other things, the following main functions are integrated in the IBS:

• Continuous measurement of the battery current, voltage and temperature under all vehicle operating conditions. When the vehicle is stationary, the measured values are checked cyclically in order to save power. The IBS is programmed such that it wakes up every40 seconds. The IBS measurement time is approximately50 ms. The measured values are entered in the closed circuit histogram in the IBS. In addition, the battery charge status (SoC) is partly calculated. The DME reads out the histogram after restarting the vehicle. A corresponding fault code is entered in the DME fault code memory in response to a closed-circuit current transgression. The data are transmitted via the bit-serial data interface.

• Calculation of the battery indicators as the basis for the charge and health status of the battery. The battery indicators are charge and discharge current, voltage and temperature of the vehicle battery.

• Balancing of the charge/discharge current of the battery.

• Continuous monitoring of the battery charge status and making available the corresponding data in the event of insufficient battery power.

• Calculation of the current progression when starting the engine to determine the battery health status.

• Closed-circuit current monitoring of the vehicle.

• Self-diagnosis. *
Funf Dreisig

*Quoted from E70 Energy Management.pdf

Stevev 04-15-2010 11:15 AM

I had both cables and sensor replaced plus a brand new battery installed. I still experienced the High Battery Drain message. The SA stated that I did not drive enough for the battery to get charge up. I think, it is kind of make sense, because I only put on around 4 miles per day from home to work.

rufusdedog 04-15-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunfDreisig (Post 732712)
Hmmm...
I wonder if the IBS is the actually the Intelligent Battery SENSOR :dunno:

Funf Dreisig

*Quoted from E70 Energy Management.pdf

Hmmmm...could be....:lmao:

ard 04-15-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FunfDreisig (Post 732712)
Hmmm...
I wonder if the IBS is the actually the Intelligent Battery SENSOR :dunno:

Nope.

Irritable Battery Syndrome.

FunfDreisig 04-15-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ard (Post 732859)
Nope.

Irritable Battery Syndrome.

:bustingup

I really wish I had thought of that one :thumbup:

Funf Dreisig

brisbmw 04-15-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rufusdedog (Post 732580)
Updated all the software too. Did it help you?


Yes everything is fine now, you should ask your SA about the sw update. Tell them to call BMW of Pleasanton if they can't get it figured out.

X5 Meister 04-15-2010 08:46 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Made in Italy, really? Is it white or black? Can you snap some pictures of this battery?

According the ETK it's made by East Penn / Deka which is in Pennsylvania. And it's the newest spec (as of 1/2010+) AGM battery 90 Ah / 900 A. I'm pretty sure it's their 9AGM49 battery that has these spec:

BCI Group Size = 49
Din Size = H8
Voltage = 12
Cold Cranking Amps at 0 degrees F = 900
Cranking Amps at 32 degrees F = 1,035
Reserve Charge = 180 minutes
20 hour Amp hour rate = 95
Length = 13 15/16"
Width = 6 7/8"
Height = 7 1/2"

Quote:

Originally Posted by rufusdedog (Post 732561)
Had the car at the dealer since Thurs for the "High Battery Drain" issue. The service manager personally checked it out, ran all the diags in SIBs. The result:

Replaced Battery 61-21-7-594-976 (made in Italy)
Replaced Battery Cable 61-12-9-215-954
Replaced Battery Cable 61-12-9-217-004
Replaced IBS and BST (no part nrs, one is Intelligent Battery System, no idea what the other is).

Negative battery terminal cracked causing corrosion on IBS.

No idea how the battery cracked. It's held down tight and to be honest, I've been remiss and have never even looked at it since it's out of sight. Hopefully this will be the fix. I'll post if the warning returns.


Shinchan 04-15-2010 09:57 PM

I got that error message today... After restarting the car.. the message disappear.

And made several stops today... and restart the car without that error message at all. Freaky.. just happen once... hopefully its a fluke.

I do worry a bit.. that i have audio and amp in the back.. and if its Dealer warranty.. I wonder if they will slam me with that i have after market aamp that is draining the battery.

I the amp and speaker was install about 8 month ago.. never had any problem.. but .. it seem that last month, we did a firmware upgrade.. and then this is happening?

FreddyG 06-21-2010 03:44 PM

Do any of you Guys have the SW update number, so that I could tell it to my sa too? I'd Really Appreciate it because I got the same song and dance in that you're not driving it enough!

Thanks in advance! :beerchug:

RRE70 10-30-2011 02:21 PM

Got the 'High Battery Discharge' message everytime I started the X5 yesterday and today... I had a new (AGM) battery installed this year and thought it might be the seat heaters (it is getting colder over here in the Netherlands) that draw too much current (especially on shorts trips hard on the battery?) So I charged it completely (using the Ctek charger on 'AGM-setting' (higher voltage)). Today I didn't use the seatheaters at all but still got the message everytime I started the car..... Thoughts anyone?

blackberry 10-31-2011 06:37 PM

Do you lock the vehicle at night using the remote? When the car is left unlocked, there seems to be a slight drain on the battery in the morning. Locking the x5 at all times seems to help in my case as I do not get the battery warnings anymore.

RRE70 11-01-2011 01:58 PM

Yes I do lock it every night using the remote..... Strangely enough I did not get any warnings today....

kimg9582 11-02-2011 09:42 PM

Here is a tip. Once I set in my X5 with the ignition turned off and key removed. It's interesting that the Navigation DVD player was waking up here and there. This obviously drains the battery. So, I remove the DVD disc whenever I don't get to drive my X5 for few days. Worth a try.

diesaroo 11-03-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kimg9582 (Post 849947)
Here is a tip. Once I set in my X5 with the ignition turned off and key removed. It's interesting that the Navigation DVD player was waking up here and there. This obviously drains the battery. So, I remove the DVD disc whenever I don't get to drive my X5 for few days. Worth a try.

but what about the seat weight sensors...the car may be waking up thinking that someone is still in the car...jmy 2$

kimg9582 11-03-2011 02:49 PM

The seat sensor definitely kicks in if the door is locked. But, not sure if that's the case when the door is in unlock position.

RRE70 11-04-2011 02:28 PM

Thanks, but already tried that.
Still no (new) message of the drain again......

macming 06-25-2015 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimg9582 (Post 849947)
Here is a tip. Once I set in my X5 with the ignition turned off and key removed. It's interesting that the Navigation DVD player was waking up here and there. This obviously drains the battery. So, I remove the DVD disc whenever I don't get to drive my X5 for few days. Worth a try.

How do you remove DVDs? My wife's car is having high battery drain issues as well.

Ron07x5 06-25-2015 08:06 AM

Problems are typically caused by one thing. How much did they charge for the ibs?


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