X5 vs New Porsche Cayenne
 

The 2011 Turbo sure looks nice. Lots and lots of great goodies. Starts out at 104K, and knowing Porsche it will be death by options.

Anyway, I was for sure getting another X5 until I did some more reading on the new Cayenne and now I'm not so sure...

What do you all think?

I read a review of the new Cayenne last weekend and it seems to be outperformed by the X5 in regards to handling but I suppose the Turbo angine can make up for this

i'm sure if u compare Cayenne Turbo to X5 of course the Cayenne Turbo is a better car. however, even a loaded X5M is still cheaper than Cayenne Turbo and a X5 35i & 50i will still be cheaper than Cayenne & Cayenne S. all comes down to ur budget i guess.

i was going to wait for the new Cayenne but we've been driving the Current Cayenne S & Turbo since 2004 so i'm going to try the X5 now. btw, u'll be able to get a good discount within a year on the new Cayenne then buying it fresh this summer. keep that in mind...

I don't appreciate how many parts are 'shared' between volkswagon and porsche....kind of like the toyota camry and lexus es 300 crap years ago. The Toureg and Camry benefit. Which brand/vehicle were those parts originally designed and built for and which quality standard?

Important to me also was the local Porsche stealor was a stick their thumb in your eye kind of service folks too.

Lastly, only from a certain angle, the pepper does not now look like a minivan utility vehicle.

That. I've never been really impressed by the Cayenne unless it's fully optioned out and then the price tag is frightening and I still don't "get" the whole fast SUV thing. IMO I'd much rather have an X5M even though I'm still faced with the whole fast for a tank conundrum.

It does look better than the previous model but, I still don't love it.

IMHO. No diesel? No Cayenne. It was not on my list of possibilities.

Porsche have the stupidest list of options. yes when u loaded up a car the tag is scaring big, and yet when u're selling the car they're nearly worthless.

they make good cars, but they're being too cheap to their customers.

We have the Cayene diesel here in Europe
it has the 3.0 TDI from the Audi Q7 at 240BHP and 550Nm of torque

not that impressive for a Porsche but it gets 'great' mpg...:thumbup:

My wife has a 2009 Cayenne GTS a few months back. It was pretty loaded, 3 months old, and with less thank 3K miles on it. Sticker was 95K, I picked it up for 70K. So I can personally attest to options not meaning squat on resale. On the other hand almost everthing on the Porsche is an option - I'm surprised it comes with a steering wheel as standard :D

Having said that I do like some of the available options on the Cayenne such as the heated windshield. I loved that feature on the Range Rover as it made a huge difference with snow/ice buildup when driving up to the mountains. Wish it was available on the X5.

I do prefer the iDrive to the Porsche PCM touchscreen - maybe I'm just used to it. And the X5's heads up display is awesome. And nothing but nothing bets the BMW multi-contour seats :thumbup:

I do wish the X5M came with 19inch all seasons as options (the 2011 Cayenne comes with them standard). I know they are no substitute for true snow tires, but they have been just fine for me on my 07 4.8i through some pretty nasty snowstorms, and certainly better than the huge 20 inch summer tires on the X5 M.

I pondered the same thing and have decided that it is not that I necessarily want a cayenne...i want something different! If I had a cayenne and the x5 was all new i would be tempted to get an x5. When laying out the cash to lease I feel the need to change vehicles, since that's what i am essentially paying to do. My porsche dealer is like a porcupine....small and full of pricks. On top of that i can not yet afford a cayenne turbo, which is the only one i realllllllly like. So....decision made.

Well the 2011 Porsche Cayenne build configurator is up and running (Hello BMWUSA where oh where is the 2011 X5 build configurator???!?!?!?! :stickpoke :excited:)

I configured a Cayenne S with all the goodies I wanted on it and it came out to around 103K. The Turbo with all the goodies came to 122K

I don't necessarily mind spending the $$, but I'm struggling to figure out what exactly I'm getting for the extra 20+K that I would spend on a Porsche - i.e. 5.0 vs S, and M vs Turbo.

There is obviously the newness factor, and from the pictures, it looks like they have done a bang up job on the interior. BMWs look quite spartan - and perhaps even drab - in comparison, but then again all those buttons...

I (or more specifically my ass) also have a love affair with the BMW multi-contour seats, and I don't know how the Porsche "comfort seats" compare. My wife's Cayenne GTS has the sport seats and there is no comparison.

I also am a big fan of iDrive - maybe it is because I'm used to it, but I think it beats poking at a touchscreen in a moving car. Again could just be what I'm used to.

Am I talking myself into an another X5...

Will your wife be retaining the gts? Are you just looking for a daily drive when your not enjoying the aston? If so I drove the 2011 550i today and it is spectacular. More refined than the x5's current interior. Plenty of space, interior and luggage (trunk is massive). The tt v8 is a real monster in this car and the adaptive drive makes it a two faced machine. Looks even better in person and feels great to drive. I highly recommend taking it for a spin if a car isn't out of the question.

edit: Nevermind haha If you are driving in snow storms (as I do often) you probably want an suv! I should have read the whole post. Great car still.

X5M vs Cayenne Turbo
 

Just lease returned Cayenne Turbo,replaced with 2011 X5M.No comparison between the "prickly Porsche dealer" and the wonderful BMW facility.Watch out for the Porsche wear report when you return on lease. 450.00 for stone chips etc.,never seen anything like it in 25 years of leasing. 6500.00 wear and tear charges.No excess mileage.After 45000 miles,riding in the Porsche was like driving in a van full of styrofoam cups.

That is good news.

Compare the P-car's (P-truck's?) estimated maintenance costs for 4 years / 45,000 miles to the BMW's, and you'll be even more impressed. Just sayin'.

Never mind the stone chips - how did they get $6500 for wear and tear? Did you rip out the interior?

Not impressed with the Porsche. In my opinion it is plain ugly. It looks like a Nissan Murano now. And way overpriced. The X5 all the way.

I see some Murano, but more Tuscon and VerCruz:

Nescafe?

I agree...the front looks a bit better (goes from a 1 to a 3), but the back end looks very cheap and down-market. Interior is very nice, though, and the performance should be great with the weight loss. Still X5 all the way for me.

I cancelled my cayenne Turbo and am going with the X5 50. Boiled down to the fact that I really didn't need a truck that goes 0-60 in 4.4 and i just couldnt justify 40k over an X5 50.

I think the old cayenne GTS was the best looking cayenne on the exterior, the next gen rear end is hard to like; however as others have mentioned the interior really kills it. I think it is heads and shoulders above BMWs. That said, I still prefer BMW tech

I am mixed on the Cayenne interior. It is more fancy or high tech looking but not as clean and functional. Way too many buttons on the console. Plus you can't get the nice color combos as in the X5. Maybe I am just used to the BMW style but I definitely prefer it.

I want to drive the S model but it would end up being a lot more pricey than the X5 50i. $5k-$10k more to start (nicely equipped) plus the lease rate plus the maintenance costs plus the shocking turn in fee.

I drive my x5 and my parent's cayenne S titanium edition. Talking about handling I would go with the x5 no doubt. The Cayenne S is an awesome car to drive, both SUVs are awesome, if you are looking to save up more gas go with the bimmer. The X5 is more comfortable than the porsche and I have the sport package with sport suspension package. Otherwise, Porsche is a Porsche if you know what I mean...

You can feel the power on the Porsche a bit more than the x5 even though both automatic drive, there is more kick on the Porsche and stiffness on the road. On the other hand, the x5 holds the road better.

Service will be more expensive to you on the porsche, especially when the bimmer have extended warranty which covers for you almost everything except w&t.

My opinion in total is the BMW it wins it by couple more points :D

I have to agree with you. Porsche has never really done anything for me interior wise, with a few exceptions. The 911's in particular have always looked about 5 years older on the interior than they have on the exterior.

That's not really saying much given the evolutionary style of the 911.:D

Yeah, although I like the 911, none of those designers have been very busy over the years.

I agree that there are a lot of buttons in the Cayenne, but they are actually quite logical and easy to use. Having said that, I do prefer the simplicity of iDrive, but I do think the lines of the Porsche interior are more pleasing than the X5s. As I look at the pictures you posted, I think it may be how the center console extends then blends with the dash that I find most pleasing. I feel the interior is more welcoming than the BMW interior. Obviously a personal preference.

The Porsche looks like an airplane cockpit! Seems like it makes you feel like your in control of the vehicle, ready for take off.

Just eyeballing it--seems to me the X5 is wider on the inside.

I was near the local dealer the other day and saw one parked outside. It was outside of regular hours, but went over and took at look at it. Is it just me, but for those who have seen the new Cayenne in person, is the cargo area as small as it looks? In the X5, I can get a German Shepher in their in a pinch, but I wouldn't try it in the Cayenne.

I tried to build one on their website, and Porsche's is way out to lunch on their prices. If they could be less myopic in their sales approach, they may realize that they could probably have even more sales if they offered packages a la BMW which gave you your popular options.

Ridiculous.

X5 35d on order, Azurite Black on Oyster Leather/Bamboo with the sports package/20's.

Like the clean look of the X5. More of this time and age. No need for all those buttons. And what's with the hand grip on the mid console? Same as the Benz. Never got that concept. Putting cup holders that far back does not really work (as it was on my Touareg).

If I would spend more than $120000 on a car I would not like to buy something something you see at every corner with a different badge (VW / Audi).

All those buttons... same as Audi... not beneficial. At first I thought it was a better system until I actually got to using it in the ultimate-driving-event comparo with the A6 (and Q5 last year). They have 1" buttons that simply take up space, in addition to having the controller... I don't get it.

If you order the leather dash, you can drastically improve the interior of the X5.

Raising hand.. Mine will have that! :thumbup:

I actually tried the Cayenne 1.5 yrs ago. Just before I got my X5. It's the entry level model (not Turbo, S or GTS). The V6 engine is really horrible. Very rough and it vibrates at standstill. Dealer told me it is normal. It's really a very harsh drive. The harder you drive it, the harsher it is. You can feel the V6 being push to the limit once you step on it. X5 is alot more refine and smoother. After test driving the X5, I did not give the Cayenne a second chance.

With the new Cayenne, I am not sure if they have improve the V6 3.6L engine? Anyone compare the older model and the new one?