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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 794916)

You may be right... Actually, you probably are right.

Now, to be clear, what follows is NOT a criticism of the current thread or any of the posters (I seem to have confused someone on another thread where they took a statement of mine to be a criticism.)

Over the years I've gotten a bit weary of so many discussions without any real data. The main example was people who constantly claim the engines in today's cars do not need a break-in, as they come from the factory ready to go. So in that case, I finally popped a few bucks to get some real data. And the real data showed that, at least for for the 2004 Z4, wear in the engine in the first couple of thousand miles was about 2-4 times the wear in the second couple of thousand. So at least one things was, in my mind, settled with the data -- modern engines still have a lot more wear going on when they are new. Now the debate can at least move onto the implications of this fact.

So maybe it's my engineering education, etc., but I like to get real data, and often wax half of my vehicle's hood with one wax, and the other half with a different wax, to get some more data, since empirical data trumps theory in my book.

MMmMm. I like good data!:popcorn:

I guess I'm old school. I have Zaino'd my wheels and when it's time to clean (every other week):

Spray down any brake dust with water
Coat with simple green
Use a sponge and wipe off the rest

The dust comes off very easy with a rub. No type of wax is going to prevent brake dust from adhering to your wheels unless you do something about the pads.

Maybe I'm even older school. With the wheel wax applied, I just spray my wheels with plain old water, then I use one of those big open cell sponges typically used for wall papering. Everything slides off - takes me less than a minute per wheel. And now worrisome toxins going down the drain (though the black brake dust looks scary going down the gutter ~ and there's a lot of it!)

Wheel cleaners strip whatever you have protecting them off. Simple Green is a degreaser - great if you haven't cleaned your wheels in a month of Sundays, but you'll need to put something on after that or the next washing will be even harder!

Just my two cents.

^^ Simple green will also strip the clear coat after prolonged used. Don't ask me how I know. I'm off to buy some Sonax from detailers domain

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Originally Posted by blue dragon (Post 795254)

^^ Simple green will also strip the clear coat after prolonged used. Don't ask me how I know. I'm off to buy some Sonax from detailers domain

I have used Simple Green on EVERY expensive car I have owned since 1995, and never had an issue....even the few cars that I kept 3+ years. Simple Green is "natural" and seems so gentle!!

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Originally Posted by deutsch100 (Post 795289)

I have used Simple Green on EVERY expensive car I have owned since 1995, and never had an issue....even the few cars that I kept 3+ years. Simple Green is "natural" and seems so gentle!!

I've used Simple Green on occasion when I run out of S100 and never had any problems. I think the key for any wheel cleaner is not to let it on the wheel very long. I do one wheel at a time, and the whatever cleaner I am using isn't on the wheel more than about a minute.

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Originally Posted by deutsch100 (Post 795289)

I have used Simple Green on EVERY expensive car I have owned since 1995, and never had an issue....even the few cars that I kept 3+ years. Simple Green is "natural" and seems so gentle!!

Yes, I worked with the founder/inventor eons ago...you haven't lived until you watch him drink the stuff! I'm not kidding!

Still I agree like anything I wouldn't leave it on for a long period of time. (insert funny joke about it going through inventors internal organs here :rofl:)

I just found a little blurb I cut out and filed from Car & Driver that basically says RejeX works. So that's on my list to try when Spring rolls around.

A Google later showed this:

2002 Audi A4 3.0 CVT - Baubles and Bolt-Ons - Car and Driver

So I guess my habit of "cut and file" of paper is becoming obsolete...

Here's some data for you:

I replaced my front pads with Centrics(No front Akebonos for the 4.8L engine) and my rears with Akebono Euros. Now my wheels stay clean for about 6 weeks before I feel I need to wash them as compared with a week with the stock pads. Occasionally get a faint squeak as I come to a stop, but nothing serious.

As for waxing wheels, it definitely makes them easier to clean. I've found that Klasse All In One and Sealant Glaze seems to last the longest.

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Originally Posted by blue dragon (Post 795254)

^^ Simple green will also strip the clear coat after prolonged used. Don't ask me how I know. I'm off to buy some Sonax from detailers domain

so true about stripping the clearcoat! I was using P21s gel and then after switching to sonax, I am totally sold! When I runout of wax, I am going to try their other products. I am using swissvax now and I haven't detailed the new x yet as I said before. I am just having a hard time finding the best tire dressing. I have tried all the usual suspects. The best I've found so far is Adam's rt. Anyone find anything better?