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2011_X5_35D 02-25-2011 04:46 PM

2012 Order guide and Pricing
 
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Product Planning & Strategy Bulletin
Model Year 2012 X5 & X6 Ordering and Pricing February 24, 2011


Last year BMW launched the face lifted Model Year 2011 X5 models and the response has been overwhelmingly positive. The new more powerful engines combined with the 8-speed transmissions
EfficientDynamics.
For Model Year 2012 we will keep this momentum including adding the LED corona rings as standard to the X5 models. The LED lights give the vehicle a new cleaner look to the headlight array.

We are also pleased to announce that we will build even more value into our X5 and X6 models by increasing our standard equipment profile. What we have done is taken our most frequently ordered equipment and made it standard for less than the price would have been for the option. Below is an example how we've increased value ....

--------------------------Current Price____ April 1 Price
X5 xDrive35 Premium $51200--------------$54800
----Automatic Tailgate $500------------------0
Auto dimming mirrors $300------------------0
-------Lumbar Support $400------------------0
-----Heated front seats $500------------------0
Park Distance Control $750-------------------0
------Ambient Lighting $200-------------------0
------------BMW Assist $750-------------------0
-----------Cargo Cover $100-------------------0
---Hi-*Fi Sound System $875------------------0
-------------Total Price $$56,475--------------$54800
-------------Saving------------------------------$1.675



X5 Optional and Package Equipment Changes:

Leather Upholstery and 3rd Row Seat are available as standalone options to the X5 xDrive35i model With the addition of BMW Assist as standard to the X5 xDrive35i model the Convenience Package is reduced from $2,700 to $2,100.
The Premium Package on the X5 xDrive35d, and the Convenience Packages on the X5 xDrive35i Premium and Sport Activity models will now include Rear-*view Camera, Navigation and Comfort Access. The new package prices are $3,500. On the X5 xDrive50i model the Premium Package will consist of Rear-*view Camera, Comfort Access, 4-*zone Climate Control, UGDO and Rear Manual Sunshades for $1,850 Due to the addition of Heated Front Seats as standard, Cold Weather Packages will now include Heated Rear Seats. The new package price is $750. The Technology Packages will now consist of Head Up Display, Automatic High Beam Assistant and Side-*view Camera for all models, the new package price is $1,700 A new Premium Sound Package will be available on the X5 xDrive35i Premium and Sport Activity models that includes Premium Sound and Satellite Radio, for $1,500. Adaptive Drive, option 2VA, has been removed from all M Sport Packages on the X5 models. On the X5 xDrive35i, Adaptive Drive has been replaced with Sport Suspension;; on the X5 xDrive50i, Adaptive Drive has been replaced with Air Suspension. As a result the new M Sport Package prices are $2,500 for the X5 xDrive35i and $4,700 for the X5 xDrive50i

F150 Duke 02-25-2011 05:15 PM

Wow....any word on the eco credit for the diesels?

deutsch100 02-25-2011 05:25 PM

2011 E70 is the official LCI. LED Corona Rings come out for the 2012 model!!! Europe got LED rings for 2011. This really does piss me off. The LCI model should of had this. I've had my 2011 LCI for TWO months, and now with the LED rings, I will have an "old & dated" model. Gee, thanks BMWs. I feel jipped on my $70k E70!! :(

2011_X5_35D 02-25-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by deutsch100 (Post 807572)
2011 E70 is the official LCI. LED Corona Rings come out for the 2012 model!!! Europe got LED rings for 2011. This really does piss me off. The LCI model should of had this. I've had my 2011 LCI for TWO months, and now with the LED rings, I will have an "old & dated" model. Gee, thanks BMWs. I feel jipped on my $70k E70!! :(

How you think i feel I am getting mine Monday
Can I cancel my order?? even with out Holiday Discount of $2500 I would be better of with 2012.

F150 Duke 02-25-2011 05:34 PM

Do the new headlights actually look different or is it just the color of the halo?

deutsch100 02-25-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011_X5_35D (Post 807573)
How you think i feel I am getting mine Monday
Can I cancel my order?? even with out Holiday Discount of $2500 I would be better of with 2012.

:iagree: :(

Ouch!! So sorry!!!!

Richard in NC 02-25-2011 07:31 PM

Why no adaptive drive? It's a great feature.
Plus the Z4, X3, F10, etc have even more adjust-ability. Yet they are taking it away from the X5????

Dking05 02-25-2011 08:12 PM

Sooo does this mean we get rear air or air springs all around like the 4.8is? (adjustable please!)

Nello3 02-25-2011 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deutsch100 (Post 807572)
2011 E70 is the official LCI. LED Corona Rings come out for the 2012 model!!! Europe got LED rings for 2011. This really does piss me off. The LCI model should of had this. I've had my 2011 LCI for TWO months, and now with the LED rings, I will have an "old & dated" model. Gee, thanks BMWs. I feel jipped on my $70k E70!! :(

I wouldn't feel jipped. Hell, mine was delivered yesterday, and although it stinks I was "oh-so-close" on the 2012's, I am sure I will love the 2011 just as much.

You have replaced your bulbs on the halo's, yes? I will be pestering you in the near future on how and where to do the bulb changes. :D

F150 Duke 02-25-2011 08:50 PM

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Can someone explain how they're different or show where I can see pictures? Is it really that big of a deal?


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Originally Posted by Richard in NC (Post 807605)
Why no adaptive drive? It's a great feature.
Plus the Z4, X3, F10, etc have even more adjust-ability. Yet they are taking it away from the X5????

It's still an option. I have PDFs of the order guides for 2012. Dealer just emailed them to me.

mach330 02-25-2011 08:52 PM

dayam i do feel like crap now. my car will be arriving next week. i thought it would cost more so i didn't bother to wait for the 2012. fvck.

2011_X5_35D 02-25-2011 09:09 PM

It looks like 336 20 rims are no charge option now I just might cancel my order

F150 Duke 02-25-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011_X5_35D (Post 807627)
It looks like 336 20 rims are no charge option now I just might cancel my order

Yeah that's $900 right there.

LeMansX5 02-25-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 807574)
Do the new headlights actually look different or is it just the color of the halo?

They look different. Halos are white color.

New Headlights

http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/...headlamp-2.jpg


http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/...5_headlamp.jpg


Outgoing headlights of US X5s for comparison

http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/...a-lci-x5-7.jpg

http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/...a-lci-x5-3.jpg

LeMansX5 02-25-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011_X5_35D (Post 807627)
It looks like 336 20 rims are no charge option now I just might cancel my order

Meiac09 did inform us that they are coming in spring, in this thread. He spotted them on X5s around factory

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...h-america.html

F150 Duke 02-25-2011 10:10 PM

So does anyone know when orders open up and when they will start building?

LeMansX5 02-25-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 807645)
So does anyone know when orders open up and when they will start building?

Pricing change is effective April 1st, so they should be starting production in March. Watch this page, it will be updated the day they start 2012 X5s --> Factory Milestones

F150 Duke 02-25-2011 10:33 PM

So I just ran the numbers of the 2011 MSRP vs 2012 MSRP the X5d. Adding options and packages to the 2011 to equal what the 2012 has standard.

With the inclusion of the ECO credit ($3,500) on the diesel. The price was the EXACT same.

That means the only difference is the new headlights. Not sure if I want to wait two months for that. My dealer says he doesn't think you can order them for the next 60 days. Besides my wife wants to do PCD in the spring as a vacation while it's cold up here.

F150 Duke 02-25-2011 10:41 PM

I wonder how much the 2012 headlights will be to buy from the parts department? I have to imagine it's just plug and play for 2011.

LeMansX5 02-25-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 807659)
My dealer says he doesn't think you can order them for the next 60 days.

Your dealer is wrong. He wants to get rid of their 2011 stock. People will be ordering these next week.

F150 Duke 02-25-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 807661)
Your dealer is wrong. He wants to get rid of their 2011 stock. People will be ordering these next week.

How can you order next week if it's not effective until April 1st?

Oaktree 02-25-2011 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 807662)
How can you order next week if it's not effective until April 1st?

I think the assumption is production starts in April which means you can put in orders now - 5 week build time.

pfbz 02-26-2011 12:36 AM

It seems like BMW might be getting a bit creative with their numbers...

Example:
http://paulor.smugmug.com/Image-Host...10_EabTs-M.jpg

Well, there is no option 2011 for an $875 "Hi Fi Sound System". Either the base sound system, or the $1,200 "Premium Sound System".

And the 2012's still have the $1,200 premium sound system option, so there is $0 credit towards the premium system with the new revised hi-fi sound system. It seems like they perhaps made a minor upgrade to the base stereo (maybe added a couple of tweeters) and listed it as an $875 value? Thats a pretty big and seemingly arbitrary attribution of value. There is also perhaps a bit of creativity in the values for the tailgate, dimming mirrors, and lumbar support as well as they are not offered as stand-alone options, but at least they have some specific value as components of the convenience/premium packages they were part of.

Citing a bogus $875 value certainly helps pump the numbers. Furthermore, they do it with the Premium and most of the other configurations, but not with the 35i base. eg:

2012 35i (base model):
+$900 : Base price Increase
-$100 : Roof Rails now standard
-$100 : Cargo Cover now standard
-$400 : USB/iPod interface now standard
-$750 : BMW Assist now standard.
-$000 : Hi-Fi Sound now standard.
This works out exactly to BMW's quoted $450 savings attributing $0 to Hi-Fi. Why attribute $875 for the same inclusion in other configurations? At least list $1,325 in savings for the base to be consistant with the creative accounting...:confused:

Don't get me wrong, I think all these 2012 changes are great, and I'm glad I decided to wait for a 2012, but I don't like creativity when it comes to financial analysis... It isn't needed to demonstrate the value of the configuration changes and makes BMW look bad in my eyes when busted on it...

LeMansX5 02-26-2011 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 807662)
How can you order next week if it's not effective until April 1st?

That was hypothetical comment. I will let you know the details tomorrow, but BMW starts production few weeks before the model year pricing goes into effect.

deutsch100 02-26-2011 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nello3 (Post 807614)
I wouldn't feel jipped. Hell, mine was delivered yesterday, and although it stinks I was "oh-so-close" on the 2012's, I am sure I will love the 2011 just as much.

You have replaced your bulbs on the halo's, yes? I will be pestering you in the near future on how and where to do the bulb changes. :D

Yes, I have white corona rings (GP thunder "xenon" bulbs) and real LED license plate lights. I also put Sylvania bulbs for the rear turn signals. They are something like 20-30% brighter than stock bulbs.

timeslip 02-26-2011 01:05 AM

Wait so are these prices MSRP or invoice?

LeMansX5 02-26-2011 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by timeslip (Post 807680)
Wait so are these prices MSRP or invoice?

MSRP

timeslip 02-26-2011 02:23 AM

Does anyone have the new 2012 invoice pricing yet?

F150 Duke 02-26-2011 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timeslip (Post 807689)
Does anyone have the new 2012 invoice pricing yet?

No but I am going to assume that some of the packages whose amount didn't change means that invoice won't change (just an assumption). Then the others I'm calculating at 91% of MSRP for invoice, which is roughly the % from last year.

F150 Duke 02-26-2011 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 807677)
That was hypothetical comment. I will let you know the details tomorrow, but BMW starts production few weeks before the model year pricing goes into effect.

Sounds good, I'm interested. Really want to do PCD and as a spring vacation. It'd be great to be able to order and then pickup in July.

timeslip 02-26-2011 03:13 AM

Hmm.. I suppose I was more wondering what invoice would be on the X5 3.5i Premium with the "included options" now. It used to be $47,470...

F150 Duke 02-26-2011 03:49 AM

What I'm confused about is the bulletin says a H-Fi Sound System (with no description) is not standard. Is that they 2011 ZPS Premium Sound Package - $1,640 and then now the 2012 ZPS Premium Sound Package - $1,500 is a step above that?

mswaz 02-26-2011 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 807622)
Can someone explain how they're different or show where I can see pictures? Is it really that big of a deal?




It's still an option. I have PDFs of the order guides for 2012. Dealer just emailed them to me.


Any pricing or options sheets for M's yet?

F150 Duke 02-26-2011 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mswaz (Post 807694)
Any pricing or options sheets for M's yet?

Not that I have.

riguy231 02-26-2011 10:46 AM

I also priced out our 2011 which we just ordered last weekend. With the exact same options, the price is identical. The only thing that will be missed is the LED lights, privacy glass and the roof rails. The latter two I didn't want anyways, so.....just the loss of the lighting. Would have been nice, but certainly not going to take away from this great vehicle!

Car went into production yesterday, 2/25. Woo Hoo!!

F150 Duke 02-26-2011 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riguy231 (Post 807714)
I also priced out our 2011 which we just ordered last weekend. With the exact same options, the price is identical. The only thing that will be missed is the LED lights, privacy glass and the roof rails. The latter two I didn't want anyways, so.....just the loss of the lighting. Would have been nice, but certainly not going to take away from this great vehicle!

Car went into production yesterday, 2/25. Woo Hoo!!

I wonder if the new headlights can be a direct replacement without any wiring harness changes for 2011. Then if someone was able to get a better deal on the 2011 by $1k - $2k then it'd almost be a wash wheen buying the new headlights and then maybe even better off if you're able to ebay the original ones. Probably a far fetched idea though.

riguy231 02-26-2011 11:04 AM

Oops, I lied. You also get the 4 zone climate with the rear heated seats as part of the cold weather. Now...that is a bummer.

F150 Duke 02-26-2011 11:16 AM

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Not too sure about that. Here is what I believe as a side by side comparison at MSRP. Fully loaded 2011 X5d with eco credit vs 2012 X5d with no eco credit. The 2011 is cheaper by aroughly $1,700 and has all the features the 2012 does without the headlights. Which I'm wondering if the headlights could be purchased from the parts department for $1,700.

The assumption I'm making is the sound system for the 2012 wasn't really upgraded to the 2011 Premium Sound Package for the speakers and to get all 16 or so speakers you need the 2012 Premium Sound Package which has the same name and code, but just a smaller price.

SBB 02-26-2011 02:36 PM

So we placed an order on a 2011 35d on Thursday, emailed sales advisor yesterday for the VIN/Production #. He replies today that he doesn't have it. This is suppose to be their last allocation for the 2011 35d, shouldn't they have the production number and the VIN already? I'm starting to wonder if they don't really have one... When did you get the info from your dealers?

riguy231 02-26-2011 02:41 PM

I didn't. Called the 1-800 number. What's odd is it started production yesterday and has an estimated completion of March 8. Anyone know when the 2012 builds start?

2011_X5_35D 02-26-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by riguy231 (Post 807778)
I didn't. Called the 1-800 number. What's odd is it started production yesterday and has an estimated completion of March 8. Anyone know when the 2012 builds start?

close to March 22 – Production begins on the 2011 X5
Factory Milestones

LeMansX5 02-26-2011 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011_X5_35D (Post 807790)
close to March 22 – Production begins on the 2011 X5

:thumbup:
New model production always starts on Monday...so March 28th or April 4th. Should be able to order in first half of March.

F150 Duke 02-26-2011 08:50 PM

Next step is to get the invoice pricing. I also wonder if the Eco credit will still be available.

LeMansX5 02-26-2011 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 807848)
Next step is to get the invoice pricing. I also wonder if the Eco credit will still be available.

Most probably will be there, probably reduced in amount.

apw2607 02-27-2011 12:28 AM

Aluminum trim returns to the diesel for 2012.

Richard in NC 02-27-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 807691)
Sounds good, I'm interested. Really want to do PCD and as a spring vacation. It'd be great to be able to order and then pickup in July.

If you order soon and 2012 production begins in April, pickup should be in May, not July.

Regarding Spartanburg, SC, the weather is probably nicer in the May, June time frame anyways. By July, expect lots of days in the 90s.

ukwildcat 02-27-2011 11:59 AM

I am mildly annoyed now. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy, but..

LED lights would be awesome - this is the only thing I envy in Audi owners.

Side camera was not available when I ordered mine, but since we can't get the system they can get in Europe where it will "read" the signs and tell me what the speed limit is, eh.. (at least, that's what I read)

The "new" premium sound system is interesting.

Oh look.. YOU CAN GET THE CARGO COVER AGAIN. <sigh>

I would have liked the new rims too.. Don't really like the ones that came with the Premium.

This is my first BMW, but do they ALWAYS do this? Major updates in the middle of model years, etc.

LeMansX5 02-27-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ukwildcat (Post 807941)
This is my first BMW, but do they ALWAYS do this? Major updates in the middle of model years, etc.

They make minor changes almost every year. Some years more than others. Last 3 years of model is when they keep adding to standard equipment. They probably will have convenience pack next year(last model year) for free with few options, they had done that for E60 5-series.

LeMansX5 02-27-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mswaz (Post 807694)
Any pricing or options sheets for M's yet?

Attached here

icemanrocks 02-28-2011 04:18 PM

Talked to one dealer today and the sales person said they have no idea about the upcoming changes for X5 35i and 2012 won't be out for "another 6 months". Will wait for a couple of days and see if any updates on BMWUSA.

miamipanther 02-28-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icemanrocks (Post 808184)
Talked to one dealer today and the sales person said they have no idea about the upcoming changes for X5 35i and 2012 won't be out for "another 6 months". Will wait for a couple of days and see if any updates on BMWUSA.

Sometimes I am really amazed with those dealer's professionality. :D

pfbz 02-28-2011 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icemanrocks (Post 808184)
Talked to one dealer today and the sales person said they have no idea about the upcoming changes for X5 35i and 2012 won't be out for "another 6 months".

I ran this through the new google translator for sales-speak...

"It's the end of the month and I have no hope of making a sale today if we talk about future product, six-months should be enough to dissuade this potential customer from waiting..."


BableSalesman.com had an alternate translation...

"My job is to sell cars, not keep up on the information BMWUSA sent us last week on 2012 X5 changes, pricing, and availability, so I'll make something up."

F150 Duke 03-02-2011 02:14 PM

Has anyone tried ordering a 2012 yet?

Alan Smithee 03-02-2011 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukwildcat (Post 807941)
I am mildly annoyed now. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy, but..

This is my first BMW, but do they ALWAYS do this? Major updates in the middle of model years, etc.

This sort of thing is becoming more and more common among manufacturers (not just the auto industry). Expect to see more of it, as sales volume is key to raising stock prices.

I was mildly annoyed as well; I've had my X5d, a 2011 ordered in fall 2010, for less than 3 months and 2,500 miles, and it will soon be a model year old. And unless the $3,500 EcoCredit goes away, I could have had a lot more equipment for the money.

But then I remembered that it is not my vehicle. It is a lease, so it is BMW's. If they want to destroy resale values of their own cars, it makes no difference to me.

MAPC 03-04-2011 01:32 PM

I too am frustrated about having to wait until fall or settling for a 2011. Resale, on the other hand, may not be an issue- I was originally looking for 2010's used and have found that they are BARELY less than ordering new....and they seem to be selling quickly.

The 2011 that I would order stickers just under $64K and I can order for about $56-57K net of the eco credit. I can't find a used one (other than going to the pre-new iDrive 2009s) for under $50K and most are in the $52-56K range...some even more!

LeMansX5 03-04-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MAPC (Post 809159)
I too am frustrated about having to wait until fall or settling for a 2011.

Why wait till fall? 2012 will be out next month. :confused:

F150 Duke 03-04-2011 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 809239)
Why wait till fall? 2012 will be out next month. :confused:

We're talking about the diesel. It's all over several forums and everyones dealer is telling them that both gas engines will be '12 next month but the diesel will not be a '12 until Aug-Sept.

LeMansX5 03-04-2011 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 809240)
We're talking about the diesel. It's all over several forums and everyones dealer is telling them that both gas engines will be '12 next month but the diesel will not be a '12 until Aug-Sept.

oh, ok. yeah, diesels are delayed.

LeMansX5 03-04-2011 09:11 PM

BTW, heard from a birdie that X6 facelift coming later this year will have a diesel version, along with a diesel 6-series. Tri-turbo 45d is the engine they are supposed to get. So a few months wait may be good. ;)

F150 Duke 03-04-2011 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 809248)
BTW, heard from a birdie that X6 facelift coming later this year will have a diesel version, along with a diesel 6-series. Tri-turbo 45d is the engine they are supposed to get. So a few months wait may be good. ;)

That would be amazing at 354 HP and 500+ torque. I wonder if MPG would go down or if price would jump/eco credit go away for the X5.

ring007 03-05-2011 01:25 AM

I reordered (long story) my '11 3.5d for week 14 production (mid-April), so looks like 3.5d is '11 until fall.

Oaktree 03-05-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 808658)
Has anyone tried ordering a 2012 yet?

My dealer called and said they had no 2011 production slots left at their dealership. If I wanted a 2011 they did find 4 in the midwest region. He was pushing for a 2011 since lease rates will increase on a 2012 by $80-100 per month. I'll know everything today after I price out a 2011 & 2012.

rv8_pilot 03-05-2011 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 809248)
BTW, heard from a birdie that X6 facelift coming later this year will have a diesel version, along with a diesel 6-series. Tri-turbo 45d is the engine they are supposed to get. So a few months wait may be good. ;)

I just got back from my PCD on my '11 Xd and during the factory tour noticed that most of the X6's were 4.0d's so they must be for export but I could see how when the 4.0d is released in the X5 it's all set to go in the X6.

Sputnee 03-06-2011 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oaktree (Post 809338)
My dealer called and said they had no 2011 production slots left at their dealership. If I wanted a 2011 they did find 4 in the midwest region. He was pushing for a 2011 since lease rates will increase on a 2012 by $80-100 per month. I'll know everything today after I price out a 2011 & 2012.


Was this for a diesel or petrol model?

TexasBMW 03-07-2011 01:09 PM

Awesome, that's really helpful. Thanks!

MrAbeFroman 03-07-2011 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rv8_pilot (Post 809441)
I just got back from my PCD on my '11 Xd and during the factory tour noticed that most of the X6's were 4.0d's so they must be for export but I could see how when the 4.0d is released in the X5 it's all set to go in the X6.

IF you order now, can't you lock in the lease rate, so that you're only subject to the price change?

MrAbeFroman 03-08-2011 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oaktree (Post 809338)
My dealer called and said they had no 2011 production slots left at their dealership. If I wanted a 2011 they did find 4 in the midwest region. He was pushing for a 2011 since lease rates will increase on a 2012 by $80-100 per month. I'll know everything today after I price out a 2011 & 2012.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrAbeFroman (Post 809965)
IF you order now, can't you lock in the lease rate, so that you're only subject to the price change?

To follow up on this post, the March leasing numbers are out and appear to be largely the same as February. I think the dealer was feeding you a line about the 2012 lease rates.

apw2607 03-09-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by F150 Duke (Post 809282)
That would be amazing at 354 HP and 500+ torque. I wonder if MPG would go down or if price would jump/eco credit go away for the X5.

It would be good to see that, the 8sp gear box, paddle shifters AND active cruise ... all on the 2012 diesel.

Oh, whilst were at it, lets hope for the new 3 color HUD.

Oaktree 03-12-2011 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrAbeFroman (Post 810226)
To follow up on this post, the March leasing numbers are out and appear to be largely the same as February. I think the dealer was feeding you a line about the 2012 lease rates.

It was for the i6 and yes the lease rates ended up being the same so we put an order in for a 2012. Note...I'm not sure what the "package" savings BMW was referencing. In total it will be more expensive than a 2011 (~$700).

MAPC 03-12-2011 11:48 AM

Can anyone share current money factors and residual for an 11 X5 35d? If residuals are still high I may be willing to get an 11. I hate to BUY an 11 if the 12's are going to be a bit different (still unknown) but if BMW is keeping the residual high on an 11 I can let them assume the resale risk.

ALSO- what is the current MSD program? Is it still as financially attractive as it has been in the past?

PS- I know that there is a thread on one of the forums (fora?) that has the March rate table but I cannot seem to find it.

THANKS!

ValveTronic 03-18-2011 10:09 AM

Where is the 2012 ordering guide for the 5.0? Am I missing something?

X5 Meister 03-18-2011 04:55 PM

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Here you go

X5 Meister 03-18-2011 05:07 PM

Any idea if colors like Carbon Black are still restricted to the M Sport Package? I wouldn't mind it so much but the aluminum color roof rails that come with that package look ridiculous and I also want the running boards which can't come with that bodywork.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 809239)
Why wait till fall? 2012 will be out next month. :confused:


LeMansX5 03-18-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 812670)
Any idea if colors like Carbon Black are still restricted to the M Sport Package?

Yes. But you can order custom colors by paying more. It has happened with E53.

MRV99 03-25-2011 11:26 PM

I hate to say this but my 2011 has been in the shop for 40+ days now and BMW AG is supposed to authorize a by back is a good thing. With the same options as I have now, the car is 3k cheaper than my 80900 build price when I ordered my X5. Hey new X5, 4 months of a free car and now cheaper.

HLP126 03-26-2011 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRV99 (Post 814302)
I hate to say this but my 2011 has been in the shop for 40+ days now and BMW AG is supposed to authorize a by back is a good thing. With the same options as I have now, the car is 3k cheaper than my 80900 build price when I ordered my X5. Hey new X5, 4 months of a free car and now cheaper.

What was wrong w/ your 2011 X5?

IGotId 03-26-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HLP126 (Post 814466)
What was wrong w/ your 2011 X5?

I'd also like to know!

F150 Duke 03-27-2011 03:49 PM

Has anyone tracked down the invoice price for the 2012 X5 35i sport activity? I found premium but need the sport activity one.

blondboinsd 03-27-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 812667)
Here you go

Is Navigation standard now?

GlenJr's335d 03-29-2011 12:10 AM

This might sound stupid but here it goes.

I ordered an X5 what I thought to be a 2011 year model, reading these post it make the year seem a little foggy. My VIN gets assigned on 13 April with a completion date of 20 April if production of the 2012 models start early April then my question is what year is it going to be a 2011 or 2012?

Since its going to have the diesel engine I am guessing from reading the prior post that I will get a 2012 body with a 2011 engine, anyone want to make any suggestions add to my stupid thoughts?

miamipanther 03-29-2011 03:23 PM

Diesel will stay 2011 until Oct. Only gas engine enter 2012 model year on April.

GlenJr's335d 03-29-2011 08:21 PM

So when the Factory has to switch from Diesel to gas engines they have to re-program the robots to make a 2011 when they just finished 2012 models, just dont make sense to me..

Oaktree 03-30-2011 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GlenJr's335d (Post 815180)
So when the Factory has to switch from Diesel to gas engines they have to re-program the robots to make a 2011 when they just finished 2012 models, just dont make sense to me..

From what i read The only body change is the headlight cluster, nothing else. Robots dont need to change

semler3 03-30-2011 10:36 AM

So why exactly is the diesel staying a 2011?

X5 Meister 03-30-2011 03:47 PM

What you actually mean is that they will "suddenly" be able to add a feature to the USA spec car that the European or Canadian car was able to get for the past few years. Given they are on the same assembly line, one literally right behind the other it is truly amazing how stupid BMW can be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oaktree (Post 815287)
From what i read The only body change is the headlight cluster, nothing else. Robots dont need to change


Oaktree 03-30-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 815363)
What you actually mean is that they will "suddenly" be able to add a feature to the USA spec car that the European or Canadian car was able to get for the past few years. Given they are on the same assembly line, one literally right behind the other it is truly amazing how stupid BMW can be.

Very true. Im assuming it has to do with money and/or regulation, not out of spite. My guess is they needed time to realize the cost savings before they could pass it on the US.

Sputnee 04-01-2011 01:18 AM

I live here in Europe (US Military) and if you guys only knew. The Europeans can change just about everything on a vehicle and get many more options, from the trim to seat colors.

Now, they do have to pay for every little thing, but, it seems to me, we tend to get things much later than they do (i.e. 8-speed transmission, 40d, lights, etc). Even the new HUD that is in the 6-series is in the new X5 for Europe to include soft close doors.

It upsets me like someone said above, they run on the same assembly line, are assembled by Americans in America and we get the tech later than they do in Europe.

Just my two cents, STILL LOVE THE HELL OUT OF THEIR VEHICLE THOUGH

Glina 04-01-2011 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sputnee (Post 815688)
I live here in Europe (US Military) and if you guys only knew. The Europeans can change just about everything on a vehicle and get many more options, from the trim to seat colors.

Now, they do have to pay for every little thing, but, it seems to me, we tend to get things much later than they do (i.e. 8-speed transmission, 40d, lights, etc). Even the new HUD that is in the 6-series is in the new X5 for Europe to include soft close doors.

It upsets me like someone said above, they run on the same assembly line, are assembled by Americans in America and we get the tech later than they do in Europe.

Just my two cents, STILL LOVE THE HELL OUT OF THEIR VEHICLE THOUGH

I think it will upsets you more if here in US you will have to pay same price as they pay in Europe or any other country on the same car. A lot of people here b$$ch about that where we only are paying 1/3 of the price what other countries are paying.

Glina 04-01-2011 07:46 AM

I just bought the 2012 x6 with a lot of options. In my country( in Europe) with money that I paid for the X6 I'll be able only to buy a new Nissan altima. So why are complaining???

Sputnee 04-01-2011 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Glina (Post 815718)
I just bought the 2012 x6 with a lot of options. In my country( in Europe) with money that I paid for the X6 I'll be able only to buy a new Nissan altima. So why are complaining???

Where am I complaining.

First, 60% of vehicles price here in Europe is taxes, so the vehicle itself doesn't cost that much, it is YOUR system that is cheating you.

Secondly, if a vehicle runs down the same assembly line, which happens to be in the US, why should we receive the updates a year later considering the largest market for the vehicle is the US.

Third, the value of anything is often determined by what the market will bear. Take for instance Levi's 501s, in the US they go for around $25 a pair, in Europe, they are 75-80 Euro's, which at todays exchange rate is $100 a pair. People still buy them, but, you couldn't pay an american to pay that much for them.

X5s, IMHO is the best SAV/SUV on the road, but, it is also the priciest when compaired to others. So if you are looking from a Market perspective, we X5 owners are paying alot more for this vehicle than say a Lexus, Infiniti, etc in the US also. So no, I don't think we should get things "after the fact".

Again, wasn't complaining, if you look at my posting, was just giving a general observation/my opinion. I still love BMWs and have one in the driveway and a 35i SA on order.

Glina 04-01-2011 08:27 AM

^^^ Got you. You're right about taxes. I didn't mean to say that you are complaining, I meant to say that we all should be happy that we pay so much less here in US. At least I am!!! You're right with those 501's

Sputnee 04-01-2011 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Glina (Post 815722)
^^^ Got you. You're right about taxes. I didn't mean to say that you are complaining, I meant to say that we all should be happy that we pay so much less here in US. At least I am!!! You're right with those 501's


No problem. Trust me, I understand what you are saying. Alot of my friends here in Europe, and when I tell them how much I paid for my wife's 325i and the new X5 35i SA that I just ordered, they are like, whaaaaaaaat.

Just to give you an example, I paid $59,610.00 (no taxes) for a 2012 BMW 35i SA with CP, CWP, TP, Running Boards, Multi Countour Seat, BMW Apps, and Premium Hi-Fi. Same car here in the Netherlands is over 120,000 Euro's, which is around $140,000. Unbelievable.

apw2607 04-03-2011 10:00 PM

The online configuration is gonna seem odd. The 2012 brochure .. Etc.

Build your own 2012 x5 (so long as it's not a diesel, in which case its 2011).

Is this really the case ?

Maybe I missed this but has anyone ordered a diesel just recently now slots would be for April may etc. Is it a 2011 ?

GlenJr's335d 04-03-2011 10:36 PM

That's what I have been told, I get my vin issued on the 13th and scheduled complete day is the 20th of April.

Someone on this forum stated that the only difference between the 2011 & 2012 is the headlight assembly, I drove a rental 2010 X5 diesel back in August in Stuttgart which had the upgraded headlights already so I wonder what the hold up is, most likely the D.O.T.

Sure sounds stupid but I guess that's how it works same assembly line the only difference is a engine a few stickers and programing the computer for diesel. No spark plugs involved because a diesel only needs air, fuel, and compression to run oh and a battery for the switch that turns off the fuel valve.


OH ich sie bekomme, verlor seine Übersetzung in.....

semler3 04-04-2011 05:12 PM

So why exactly is the diesel staying a 2011?

stevenix 04-04-2011 10:23 PM

I received an email from BMW Dallas that they finished building my 012 X5 early and it should be on a truck to Dallas if there are no delays on the EPA certs for the new model. These are going to be a looooong days until it gets here.

apw2607 04-04-2011 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sputnee (Post 815688)
Even the new HUD that is in the 6-series is in the new X5 for Europe ....

That's just NOT true.

Sputnee 04-05-2011 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apw2607 (Post 816401)
That's just NOT true.


You are right, I meant to say 5 series. I was at my dealer and the new 5-series, US Specification has the new HUD.

zalzala 04-10-2011 01:35 AM

how abt diesel/

golucki 04-13-2011 05:35 PM

Need Advice on 2012 pricing
 
I am looking to buy X5 35i (2012) with
Jet Black exterior
Sand Perf. Nevada Lthr
premium pkg
convenience pkg
premium sound
Active vent seat pkg
Multi contour seats
smart phone integration
running boards
heated front seats and ventilated front seats
bmw apps
3rd row seats.

I haven't bought BMW before. Please advice me on what price would be a
good deal while bargaining. I am in Texas.
Also I am confused if i need to go with diesel. Any advice on that will be appreciated.
Thanks

elrey21 04-13-2011 06:27 PM

Hey everyone im Manny from NYC

New to the forum. New to BMW. New to New Cars Period.
Soon to be owner of a New 2012 X5 xDrive35i Sport Activity

Sold my Infiniti FX45

Was looking for a Pre-Owned 2008-09 4.8i Sport Fully Loaded @ about $40-45K in White: This vehicle is extremely hard to come by. Found one in PA that sold for 43k before i Was ready to buy with all options and only 30,000 miles but like I said I wasnt ready at the moment and could not jump on it, since then 2 months, I have not found another vehicle that fits the bill.

I spoke to a sales guy and another sales guy and finally another sales guy in NJ who told me that he could have me paying on a lease more or less what im looking to pay through financing. Needless to say I was convinced and surprised at how "inexpensive" a brand new vehicle is compared to a Pre-Owned only $10-15K difference with many upgrades. After 2 days of talking and me browsing this forum im happy to say I made a deal last friday, put a deposit and ordered my X5

Alpine White/ Cinnamon interior
Conv Package
Running Boards
Premium HiFi
BMW Apps
MSRP $63,425

I honestly thought that was gonna be the price until I found this forum and found that even a brand new car has wiggle room for negotiation. He got me the vehicle for a price of $59,310 only $440 above the stated Invoice Price, even though I know its not really what they get it for. But I still think its a pretty good deal and he was able to meet my Monthly Payment Maximum over 3 years @ 10,000 miles, Needless to say I probably plan on purchasing it in 3 years unless the new model is a Huge improvement. Overall im happy you guys are so insightful, I dont know what i would have done with my infiniti if I didnt have help from the guys infinitifx.org.

Speaking of which, Are you allowed to modify the car if you lease, Im thinking about adding the LCI Aero Package, they sell it on eBay out of NJ for under MSRP, M Package Roof Rails, BMW Performance Pedals, and a set of HID's in the fog lights.

stevenix 04-22-2011 10:24 PM

Finally got the new X5 xDrive35i Sport Activity today -The first 2012 that BMW Dallas delivered. Jet Black with the Sand Beige leather and the Convenience package. I'm liking it even more than I expected to even after all the waiting. The difference in the electronics from my 2003 4.6 to the 2012 is mind blowing. The panoramic roof is also more striking the more time I spend with it. This is a fantastic ride!!

LeMansX5 04-23-2011 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenix (Post 819972)
Finally got the new X5 xDrive35i Sport Activity today -The first 2012 that BMW Dallas delivered. Jet Black with the Sand Beige leather and the Convenience package. I'm liking it even more than I expected to even after all the waiting. The difference in the electronics from my 2003 4.6 to the 2012 is mind blowing. The panoramic roof is also more striking the more time I spend with it. This is a fantastic ride!!

Congrats!

ValveTronic 04-23-2011 08:51 AM

Invoice Pricing
 
Looking for Invoice Pricing for the '12 50i. Anyone have or see it?

LeMansX5 04-23-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ValveTronic (Post 820019)
Looking for Invoice Pricing for the '12 50i. Anyone have or see it?

You can find invoice prices for any car at this link below(or sites like Edmunds). Choose new car on the page. Screenshot for 2012 50i below.
Car Buying | New and Used Car Landing

--------Invoice-----------MSRP
Base---$60,070-----------$64,675

BMWOO7 05-04-2011 07:08 PM

Pics...?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenix (Post 819972)
Finally got the new X5 xDrive35i Sport Activity today -The first 2012 that BMW Dallas delivered. Jet Black with the Sand Beige leather and the Convenience package. I'm liking it even more than I expected to even after all the waiting. The difference in the electronics from my 2003 4.6 to the 2012 is mind blowing. The panoramic roof is also more striking the more time I spend with it. This is a fantastic ride!!


durnie 06-13-2011 03:02 AM

I'm confused, when does the 2012 model X5 update actually start or become available?

docpowell 06-13-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by durnie (Post 829244)
I'm confused, when does the 2012 model X5 update actually start or become available?

2012 gas models are available now. Diesel in October.


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